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Regardless, the country needs for the Democrats to win control of at least one House of Congress in 2018. Right now the big problem is that we have a mentally ill, totally corrupt person in the Oval Office and we have his Party mates who are in control of Congress refusing to hold him accountable. If you'd have asked me even three years ago if I'd ever be saying this I'd have said you were smoking rope. But right now we need for the Democrats to take control of Congress because the Republicans are SO off the rails.

Right now, at this moment in history, the Republicans are worse. And it's not a close call to any rational person.
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JohnStOnge wrote:Regardless, the country needs for the Democrats to win control of at least one House of Congress in 2018. Right now the big problem is that we have a mentally ill, totally corrupt person in the Oval Office and we have his Party mates who are in control of Congress refusing to hold him accountable. If you'd have asked me even three years ago if I'd ever be saying this I'd have said you were smoking rope. But right now we need for the Democrats to take control of Congress because the Republicans are SO off the rails.

Right now, at this moment in history, the Republicans are worse. And it's not a close call to any rational person.
It is funny that the elephant in the room largely unspoken
is that we indeed have an insane person as president..

Example: He holds up the letter from Kim Jong and says to the press
"You'd pay me to see what's in this (dramatic pause) its an amazing letter"
10 minutes later responding to a question: "well of course I haven't read it yet"

:shock:

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CAA Flagship wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Certainly a huge factor that keeps me being an Independent moderate - both major political parties are embarrassments. Arguing the minutia (sp?) over which one is somehow worse is pointless. It's like both parties have had porta-potties dumped on them and then working out which one smells worse.
I don't believe that there are many people who align 100% with either party. It's a matter of weighting your issues.
If anyone is in search of finding a platform that aligns perfectly with their personal desires, they better start a new planet.
And what’s happened in both parties (but seemingly more militaristic in the donk party) is that if you are NOT lockstep 100% in agreement with the party platform/agenda, then you are publicly shamed and ostracized. Much like what happpened to Toni Lauren when she came out as pro-choice...just fucking stupid that she was drummed out of a job because she had a mind of her own. I believe the donk party is about to split into two different parties, the Uber left and the corrupt left...
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The Donks are terrified they'll have their version of Trump.
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Chizzang wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:Regardless, the country needs for the Democrats to win control of at least one House of Congress in 2018. Right now the big problem is that we have a mentally ill, totally corrupt person in the Oval Office and we have his Party mates who are in control of Congress refusing to hold him accountable. If you'd have asked me even three years ago if I'd ever be saying this I'd have said you were smoking rope. But right now we need for the Democrats to take control of Congress because the Republicans are SO off the rails.

Right now, at this moment in history, the Republicans are worse. And it's not a close call to any rational person.
It is funny that the elephant in the room largely unspoken
is that we indeed have an insane person as president..

Example: He holds up the letter from Kim Jong and says to the press
"You'd pay me to see what's in this (dramatic pause) its an amazing letter"
10 minutes later responding to a question: "well of course I haven't read it yet"

:shock:

WTF!!!
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AZGrizFan wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: I don't believe that there are many people who align 100% with either party. It's a matter of weighting your issues.
If anyone is in search of finding a platform that aligns perfectly with their personal desires, they better start a new planet.
And what’s happened in both parties (but seemingly more militaristic in the donk party) is that if you are NOT lockstep 100% in agreement with the party platform/agenda, then you are publicly shamed and ostracized. Much like what happpened to Toni Lauren when she came out as pro-choice...just fucking stupid that she was drummed out of a job because she had a mind of her own. I believe the donk party is about to split into two different parties, the Uber left and the corrupt left...
There’s a certain degree of probability to that last line.
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
And what’s happened in both parties (but seemingly more militaristic in the donk party) is that if you are NOT lockstep 100% in agreement with the party platform/agenda, then you are publicly shamed and ostracized. Much like what happpened to Toni Lauren when she came out as pro-choice...just **** stupid that she was drummed out of a job because she had a mind of her own. I believe the donk party is about to split into two different parties, the Uber left and the corrupt left...
There’s a certain degree of probability to that last line.
You just basically said somewhere between 0 and 100 percent

You realize that, right
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CID1990 wrote:
kalm wrote:
There’s a certain degree of probability to that last line.
You just basically said somewhere between 0 and 100 percent

You realize that, right
This is (more than likely) 100% true.

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GannonFan wrote:Certainly a huge factor that keeps me being an Independent moderate - both major political parties are embarrassments. Arguing the minutia (sp?) over which one is somehow worse is pointless. It's like both parties have had porta-potties dumped on them and then working out which one smells worse.
Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:

Just voted here for the local elections and primary. What annoys me is that ND is straight ticket for the primary. I am not able to pick and choose candidates across party lines. The other thing I noticed in doing my research on candidates is that there is a serious lack of "decent" candidates at all levels. Everybody makes mistakes in life but if it seems like the ones that are up for office are "repeat" offenders or have a history of it.
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Winterborn wrote:
GannonFan wrote:Certainly a huge factor that keeps me being an Independent moderate - both major political parties are embarrassments. Arguing the minutia (sp?) over which one is somehow worse is pointless. It's like both parties have had porta-potties dumped on them and then working out which one smells worse.
Couldn't have said it better myself. :thumb:

Just voted here for the local elections and primary. What annoys me is that ND is straight ticket for the primary. I am not able to pick and choose candidates across party lines. The other thing I noticed in doing my research on candidates is that there is a serious lack of "decent" candidates at all levels. Everybody makes mistakes in life but if it seems like the ones that are up for office are "repeat" offenders or have a history of it.

The reason for that is if a person is a decent candidate, they have enough sense not to run for office and subject themselves and their families to all the crap that goes with it.


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Ivytalk wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
It is funny that the elephant in the room largely unspoken
is that we indeed have an insane person as president..

Example: He holds up the letter from Kim Jong and says to the press
"You'd pay me to see what's in this (dramatic pause) its an amazing letter"
10 minutes later responding to a question: "well of course I haven't read it yet"

:shock:

WTF!!!
Who are you? JSO Jr.? :lol:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Who are you? JSO Jr.? :lol:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
How many times do I have to tell you that Ivy League educations and high IQ’s are over-rated?
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Who are you? JSO Jr.? :lol:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
Of course he has mental health issues. So have other Presidents. We’ve survived them. We’ll survive him.

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In 2024 when this is all over there are going to be a lot of people playing down all the pearl clutching they did
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CID1990 wrote:In 2024 when this is all over there are going to be a lot of people playing down all the pearl clutching they did
Naw, by that point they'll be full tilt (hell the JSO types were full tilt just a few months in) and will have to own it.
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kalm wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
How many times do I have to tell you that Ivy League educations and high IQ’s are over-rated?
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Ivytalk wrote:
kalm wrote:
How many times do I have to tell you that Ivy League educations and high IQ’s are over-rated?
Ivy Leaguers are smart enough not to play football on a used tampon.
That’s why your numbers for Toxic Shock Syndrome are low. :thumb:
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JohnStOnge wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Who are you? JSO Jr.? :lol:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
Trump went to an Ivy League school.
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WWII wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
Trump went to an Ivy League school.
Second-tier Ivy. Maybe third. :coffee:
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"DEMOCRATS turn to HOLLYWOOD for messaging

The Democratic National Committee and members of Congress are turning to Hollywood for help with voter turnout and messaging ahead of the midterm elections and the 2020 presidential campaign, quietly consulting with a group of actors, writers and producers in Los Angeles.

-- DNC Chairman Tom Perez, several House members and other top elected officials have already met with the group, formed by members of the entertainment industry in the wake of the 2016 election. Participants liken it to a TV writers’ room, complete with producers of such programs as “Veep.” The existence of the group and details of the meetings have not been previously reported......."
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/ca ... ein-279592
Here was the message left wing Hollywood came up with, revealed yesterday:
phpBB [video]

Their left wing, limousine liberal, Hollywood crowd obviously approves, so they must think that will work..That ought to help them boost mid term voter turnout.. :lol:
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BDKJMU wrote:"DEMOCRATS turn to HOLLYWOOD for messaging

The Democratic National Committee and members of Congress are turning to Hollywood for help with voter turnout and messaging ahead of the midterm elections and the 2020 presidential campaign, quietly consulting with a group of actors, writers and producers in Los Angeles.

-- DNC Chairman Tom Perez, several House members and other top elected officials have already met with the group, formed by members of the entertainment industry in the wake of the 2016 election. Participants liken it to a TV writers’ room, complete with producers of such programs as “Veep.” The existence of the group and details of the meetings have not been previously reported......."
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/ca ... ein-279592
Here was the message left wing Hollywood came up with, revealed yesterday:
phpBB [video]

Their left wing, limousine liberal, Hollywood crowd obviously approves, so they must think that will work..That ought to help them boost mid term voter turnout.. :lol:
Why are those Democrats working so hard to get Trump re-elected???
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Col Hogan wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:"DEMOCRATS turn to HOLLYWOOD for messaging

The Democratic National Committee and members of Congress are turning to Hollywood for help with voter turnout and messaging ahead of the midterm elections and the 2020 presidential campaign, quietly consulting with a group of actors, writers and producers in Los Angeles.

-- DNC Chairman Tom Perez, several House members and other top elected officials have already met with the group, formed by members of the entertainment industry in the wake of the 2016 election. Participants liken it to a TV writers’ room, complete with producers of such programs as “Veep.” The existence of the group and details of the meetings have not been previously reported......."
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/ca ... ein-279592
Here was the message left wing Hollywood came up with, revealed yesterday:
phpBB [video]

Their left wing, limousine liberal, Hollywood crowd obviously approves, so they must think that will work..That ought to help them boost mid term voter turnout.. :lol:
Why are those Democrats working so hard to get Trump re-elected???
Who is more liked, De Niro or Franklin Graham?
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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Why are those Democrats working so hard to get Trump re-elected???
Who is more liked, De Niro or Franklin Graham?
Quien es mas macho? Donald Trump, o Ricardo Montalban? :lol:
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WWII wrote:
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Oh come on Ivy. You know very well that any reasonable person would conclude that the guy has mental issues. I don't know why you do what you do on this board. You have to be a smart guy to have gotten accepted to an Ivy League school. How can you possibly NOT see that we have a President with mental health issues?
Trump went to an Ivy League school.
Indeed he did. But that doesn't mean he doesn't have serious mental issues. Also doesn't change the fact that he lies a lot...even by the standards of politicians...and is totally corrupt.

I gotta say, to, that if anybody ever challenged my view that someone who gets into an Ivy League school has to be in the top 1% of the IQ distribution it's Trump. Of course my view has always been qualified by a consideration of "unless they had a characteristic that got them special consideration." Like, frankly, a Black person doesn't have to be in the top 1% to get in. There's at least one biographer who claims Trump got in on the basis of a special favor (http://www.thedp.com/article/2015/08/do ... classmates).
Another biographer, Gwenda Blair, wrote in 2001 that Trump was admitted to Wharton on a special favor from a “friendly” admissions officer. The officer had known Trump’s older brother, Freddy.
I'd like to see his standardized test scores. Like for instance we know what George W. Bush scored on his SAT and we know that, though he probably would not have gotten into an Ivy League school without special consideration, we know that his pre 1978 SAT score was 1206 and we can estimate that he has an IQ around 129 or 130. I'd like to see Trump's SAT score but so far I haven't been able to find it.

The guy just comes off as SUCH an idiot. Way more than GW Bush. GW Bush was inarticulate but he didn't come off as being a complete idiot to the extent that Trump does.
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