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Skjellyfetti wrote:Who did you vote for? Did you sit it out?
You know who I voted for. I won the bet too. Hopefully you donated to a worthy cause, like the NRA. :lol:

I would vote for ANYONE running against Hillary Clinton if she EVER runs again too. :nod: The woman is the spawn of Satan's asshole.
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kalm wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: You and your ilk have become so removed from reality that you think society investing in itself = socialism (as if America doesn't do that already). Apparently all wealth should move upwards and then trickle down to the rest of the population, because history has show that works.

Anyways I never believed that conservatives actually believe in supply side economics; they just enjoy the tax cuts for themselves. Might as well change the official GOP policy to, "F you, I got mine."
Or, from the redneck conk perspective “Fuck you, I might get mine....someday. What’s the Powerball jackpot up to now?” :nod:
Wrong, Trip, as usual. You really should stay out of the deep end of the pool when it comes to politics.

History has shown, indeed, that the American experiment has worked incredibly well. One of the youngest countries on the planet, and yet one of the most successful, wealthiest countries and population within 100 years of its creation.

What history has ALSO shown, unequivocally, is that YOUR solution does NOT work. It’s been tried. And tried. And tried. And tried again. It’s been bastardized, compromised, changed, reinvented, etc., etc....no matter WHAT iteration and conglomeration of thoughts and values that are spewed by the “leaders” of the newest so called socialist movement, it never, EVER works. Ever. EVER EVER.

But I get it...”it just hasn’t been done right yet”, right? :rofl: :rofl:
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93henfan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
JSO isn't a conk.

Where do Ganny, 93 and I fall on your fantasy spectrum?
We're all complicated cases.

I won't speak for the two of you, but my stance on the issues I really care about are all over the political spectrum.

Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left

But it doesn't matter who I vote for, because it's going Democrat every time. My vote in Delaware truly doesn't matter.

In retrospect, I should have voted Libertarian in 2016 instead of made Aleppo jokes about their pothead candidate, if for nothing else than to add one grain of sand on the scale in favor of a third party.
My mother (a doctrinaire liberal), when I reminded her that she actually had a third option, said that she didn't like Johnson because she wanted someone who takes themselves seriously.

To which I replied that if that's the criteria then she could have voted for Trump as easily as she did Clinton - two people who take themselves more seriously than anyone else on the planet

Johnson would have made a great President

(but the histrionics on the left ARE a consolation prize....)


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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: See, common ground! Stop the presses! :nod:

Heck, with inflation + population growth yearly at 3+%, even just freezing spending across the board for 5-6 years would get a 20% cut in inflation adjusted per capita.
You want to increase it in one area? Cut it further somewhere else..
80% maybe 85% in common... That's the big secret that our media system hides from us
Point being:
I only strongly disagree with about 20% of what trump is doing
and quite frankly that is about the same percentage that I strongly disagreed with Obama

:nod:
Pst...don't tell Ivytalk and AzGriz, but they probably agree with that socialist scum, Trip, most of the time too. :nod:
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CID1990 wrote:
93henfan wrote:
We're all complicated cases.

I won't speak for the two of you, but my stance on the issues I really care about are all over the political spectrum.

Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left

But it doesn't matter who I vote for, because it's going Democrat every time. My vote in Delaware truly doesn't matter.

In retrospect, I should have voted Libertarian in 2016 instead of made Aleppo jokes about their pothead candidate, if for nothing else than to add one grain of sand on the scale in favor of a third party.
My mother (a doctrinaire liberal), when I reminded her that she actually had a third option, said that she didn't like Johnson because she wanted someone who takes themselves seriously.

To which I replied that if that's the criteria then she could have voted for Trump as easily as she did Clinton - two people who take themselves more seriously than anyone else on the planet

Johnson would have made a great President

(but the histrionics on the left ARE a consolation prize....)


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This. :nod:

I'll sometimes amusingly engage on Facebook or with friends and relatives who supported Hillary. They too take themselves seriously (at least their vote) and don't like it one darn bit when I tell them the vote was wasted on a horrible, dishonest candidate and they are responsible for Trump being in office. They then tend to get mad and accuse me of voting for Stein (curious they don't blame Bernie first) and don't believe me when I say I voted for Johnson and would again.

I have zero issues with Johnson being a goofball. I prefer that to the supercilious voters and candidates. If you read up on Johnson's history as governor, the dude knew how to get shit done and was willing to listen to everyone. He had an open door to his office every Thursday from 4:00-10:00 throughout his tenure where any citizen could come in and spend 5 minutes with the governor. Dude was a good leader. :nod:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Or, from the redneck conk perspective “Fuck you, I might get mine....someday. What’s the Powerball jackpot up to now?” :nod:
Wrong, Trip, as usual. You really should stay out of the deep end of the pool when it comes to politics.

History has shown, indeed, that the American experiment has worked incredibly well. One of the youngest countries on the planet, and yet one of the most successful, wealthiest countries and population within 100 years of its creation.

What history has ALSO shown, unequivocally, is that YOUR solution does NOT work. It’s been tried. And tried. And tried. And tried again. It’s been bastardized, compromised, changed, reinvented, etc., etc....no matter WHAT iteration and conglomeration of thoughts and values that are spewed by the “leaders” of the newest so called socialist movement, it never, EVER works. Ever. EVER EVER.

But I get it...”it just hasn’t been done right yet”, right? :rofl: :rofl:
You mean the American experiment which features a mixed economy including socialist programs? :clap:
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CID1990 wrote:Johnson would have made a great President
of what? :lol:
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89Hen wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Johnson would have made a great President
of what? :lol:
There's only one President with a capital P there Mr Smartypants


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Chizzang wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: See, common ground! Stop the presses! :nod:

Heck, with inflation + population growth yearly at 3+%, even just freezing spending across the board for 5-6 years would get a 20% cut in inflation adjusted per capita.
You want to increase it in one area? Cut it further somewhere else..
80% maybe 85% in common... That's the big secret that our media system hides from us
Point being:
I only strongly disagree with about 20% of what trump is doing
and quite frankly that is about the same percentage that I strongly disagreed with Obama

:nod:
That doesn't sound like a weighted average, is it? And is that based on what is best for you, or what you think is best for the country? #DetailsMatter
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93henfan wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Who did you vote for? Did you sit it out?
You know who I voted for. I won the bet too. Hopefully you donated to a worthy cause, like the NRA. :lol:

I would vote for ANYONE running against Hillary Clinton if she EVER runs again too. :nod: The woman is the spawn of Satan's asshole.
I remember the bet. And, I did donate. :thumb:

Just thought I remembered you saying you didn't vote for Trump.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
Or, from the redneck conk perspective “Fuck you, I might get mine....someday. What’s the Powerball jackpot up to now?” :nod:
Wrong, Trip, as usual. You really should stay out of the deep end of the pool when it comes to politics.

History has shown, indeed, that the American experiment has worked incredibly well. One of the youngest countries on the planet, and yet one of the most successful, wealthiest countries and population within 100 years of its creation.

What history has ALSO shown, unequivocally, is that YOUR solution does NOT work. It’s been tried. And tried. And tried. And tried again. It’s been bastardized, compromised, changed, reinvented, etc., etc....no matter WHAT iteration and conglomeration of thoughts and values that are spewed by the “leaders” of the newest so called socialist movement, it never, EVER works. Ever. EVER EVER.

But I get it...”it just hasn’t been done right yet”, right? :rofl: :rofl:
Well, we just haven't tried Democratic Socialism yet, that's why.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
93henfan wrote:
You know who I voted for. I won the bet too. Hopefully you donated to a worthy cause, like the NRA. :lol:

I would vote for ANYONE running against Hillary Clinton if she EVER runs again too. :nod: The woman is the spawn of Satan's asshole.
I remember the bet. And, I did donate. :thumb:

Just thought I remembered you saying you didn't vote for Trump.
Negative. I voted for him, as pointless as the vote was in a deep-blue state. I have no secrets. He's a shit-gibbon, but at least he's not Hillary Clinton.

What you may remember is me thinking I wasn't going to vote, because of the two terrible candidates, but in the end, I had to vote directly against Hillary Clinton just to know I did everything I could physically do to keep her out of the White House again.
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93henfan wrote:
Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left
Fascinating ^

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Environment: Left
Immigration: Whatever "just follow the laws we already have in place" is...
Corporate Responsibility: Left

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I believe our Military budget should be compared to our Infrastructure budget
So we understand how little we actually care about This Country in relation to everybody else's sh!t
BTW: The rest of the world LOVES our Military budget

Meanwhile our infrastructure is crap compared to Italy France and Germany
Because they don't have to spend a dollar defending themselves

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Chizzang wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left
Fascinating ^

Chizzang
Guns: Right
Abortion: Left
Environment: Left
Immigration: Whatever "just follow the laws we already have in place" is...
Corporate Responsibility: Left

I believe our Education System is broken and should be blown up

I believe our Military budget should be compared to our Infrastructure budget
So we understand how little we actually care about This Country in relation to everybody else's sh!t
BTW: The rest of the world LOVES our Military budget

Meanwhile our infrastructure is crap compared to Italy France and Germany
Because they don't have to spend a dollar defending themselves

:nod: There's more... But it gets boring (Yes I voted for Jill Stein)
Yep. There's something to your 80/20 rule.
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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Fascinating ^

Chizzang
Guns: Right
Abortion: Left
Environment: Left
Immigration: Whatever "just follow the laws we already have in place" is...
Corporate Responsibility: Left

I believe our Education System is broken and should be blown up

I believe our Military budget should be compared to our Infrastructure budget
So we understand how little we actually care about This Country in relation to everybody else's sh!t
BTW: The rest of the world LOVES our Military budget

Meanwhile our infrastructure is crap compared to Italy France and Germany
Because they don't have to spend a dollar defending themselves

:nod: There's more... But it gets boring (Yes I voted for Jill Stein)
Yep. There's something to your 80/20 rule.
Been saying this for a long time. The majority agreeing on 3/4 of everything.

I also point out Bretbart helped Arianna Huffington get the HuffPo up and running. He knew there was plenty of room to whip up the fringes for both sides.
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93henfan wrote: Yep. There's something to your 80/20 rule.

It's true... Political 80/20 is real
the bulk of my friends are Conservatives of some sort or another
and we agree on a wide variety of sh!t - and we disagree of just a few things

One difference as an example:
I don't mind going through the bullsh!t required to purchase a gun
and there is some serious bullsh!t involved as we all know

They get pissed... and want it changed
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Chizzang wrote:
93henfan wrote: Yep. There's something to your 80/20 rule.

It's true... Political 80/20 is real
the bulk of my friends are Conservatives of some sort or another
and we agree on a wide variety of sh!t - and we disagree of just a few things

One difference as an example:
I don't mind going through the bullsh!t required to purchase a gun
and there is some serious bullsh!t involved as we all know

They get pissed... and want it changed
I do not have any issue with universal background checks.

What I do not want is a gun registration or the slippery slope it creates, so their concerns are valid.

The Bloombergists want to, in order:

1. Increase background checks (hey, sounds great!)
2. Create a registry based on those checks (rut roh)
3. Ban certain legal firearms based on their scariness of appearance
4. Ban all semi-autos
5. Ban all guns
6. Confiscate
7. Prosecute all patriots
8. Rip up Constitution
9. Start the new order, which is a lot easier with a disarmed populace and the hold-outs in jail

It's the duty of any freedom-loving American to stop them at all costs, including bloodshed.

No, I am not insane.
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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

It's true... Political 80/20 is real
the bulk of my friends are Conservatives of some sort or another
and we agree on a wide variety of sh!t - and we disagree of just a few things

One difference as an example:
I don't mind going through the bullsh!t required to purchase a gun
and there is some serious bullsh!t involved as we all know

They get pissed... and want it changed
I do not have any issue with universal background checks.

What I do not want is a gun registration or the slippery slope it creates, so their concerns are valid.

The Bloombergists want to, in order:

1. Increase background checks (hey, sounds great!)
2. Create a registry based on those checks (rut roh)
3. Ban certain legal firearms based on their scariness of appearance
4. Ban all semi-autos
5. Ban all guns
6. Confiscate
7. Prosecute all patriots
8. Rip up Constitution
9. Start the new order, which is a lot easier with a disarmed populace and the hold-outs in jail

It's the duty of any freedom-loving American to stop them at all costs, including bloodshed.

No, I am not insane.
:lol:

You'd love my friends...
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∞∞∞ wrote:As I've said before, Conks used to want to improve America, but wanted to be fiscally responsible about it. Now they neither want to improve America nor are they fiscally responsible.

1970s
Scientist: Research shows climate change is an impending issue. Here are proposed solutions.
Congress: Thanks for doing your job; I'm not a scientist, but trust my fellow American knows his profession. Now let's find the best way to pay for the proposed solutions.

Today:
Scientist: Research shows climate change is an impending issue. Here are proposed solutions.
Congress: **** off Mr. science guy; I don't need to study to know what I'm talking about. Here's a big tax cut big oil, big coal. You've been there for America in the past, so you'll be there forever.

1960s and 70s

PROBLEM: Global cooling will cause planet cooling and will eventually destroy the planet.

SOLUTION: More government regulations and control to correct problem,

1980s and 90s

PROBLEM: Global warming will cause planet heating and will eventually destroy the planet.

SOLUTION: More government regulations and control to correct problem.

2000s and 2010s

PROBLEM: Climate change (clever way to cover themselves) will cause planet issues and will eventually destroy the planet.

SOLUTION: More government regulations and control to correct problem.


Regardless of the problem the solution is the same, hmmmmmm.


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93henfan wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
JSO isn't a conk.

Where do Ganny, 93 and I fall on your fantasy spectrum?
We're all complicated cases.

I won't speak for the two of you, but my stance on the issues I really care about are all over the political spectrum.

Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left

But it doesn't matter who I vote for, because it's going Democrat every time. My vote in Delaware truly doesn't matter.

In retrospect, I should have voted Libertarian in 2016 instead of made Aleppo jokes about their pothead candidate, if for nothing else than to add one grain of sand on the scale in favor of a third party.

Css75:

Guns right
Abortion right
Environment somewhat left
Immigration right
Corporate responsibility left

On corporate responsibility, for the big boys left, for small businesses right.

The recent Supreme Court ruling on internet really screws the little guy who simply sells a couple items by mail order.


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93henfan wrote:
Chizzang wrote:

It's true... Political 80/20 is real
the bulk of my friends are Conservatives of some sort or another
and we agree on a wide variety of sh!t - and we disagree of just a few things

One difference as an example:
I don't mind going through the bullsh!t required to purchase a gun
and there is some serious bullsh!t involved as we all know

They get pissed... and want it changed
I do not have any issue with universal background checks.

What I do not want is a gun registration or the slippery slope it creates, so their concerns are valid.

The Bloombergists want to, in order:

1. Increase background checks (hey, sounds great!)
2. Create a registry based on those checks (rut roh)
3. Ban certain legal firearms based on their scariness of appearance
4. Ban all semi-autos
5. Ban all guns
6. Confiscate
7. Prosecute all patriots
8. Rip up Constitution
9. Start the new order, which is a lot easier with a disarmed populace and the hold-outs in jail

It's the duty of any freedom-loving American to stop them at all costs, including bloodshed.

No, I am not insane.
PERFECTLY sane, bro. And that’s why #1 is a non-starter.
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Chizzang wrote:
93henfan wrote:
Guns: right
Abortion: left
Environment: left
Immigration: right
Corporate responsibility: left
Fascinating ^

Chizzang
Guns: Right
Abortion: Left
Environment: Left
Immigration: Whatever "just follow the laws we already have in place" is...
Corporate Responsibility: Left

I believe our Education System is broken and should be blown up

I believe our Military budget should be compared to our Infrastructure budget
So we understand how little we actually care about This Country in relation to everybody else's sh!t
BTW: The rest of the world LOVES our Military budget

Meanwhile our infrastructure is crap compared to Italy France and Germany
Because they don't have to spend a dollar defending themselves

:nod: There's more... But it gets boring (Yes I voted for Jill Stein)
100% agree. Especially with the “world loves our military budget part”. That’s why I love Trump’s approach to the UN and NATO. :nod:
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kalm wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Wrong, Trip, as usual. You really should stay out of the deep end of the pool when it comes to politics.

History has shown, indeed, that the American experiment has worked incredibly well. One of the youngest countries on the planet, and yet one of the most successful, wealthiest countries and population within 100 years of its creation.

What history has ALSO shown, unequivocally, is that YOUR solution does NOT work. It’s been tried. And tried. And tried. And tried again. It’s been bastardized, compromised, changed, reinvented, etc., etc....no matter WHAT iteration and conglomeration of thoughts and values that are spewed by the “leaders” of the newest so called socialist movement, it never, EVER works. Ever. EVER EVER.

But I get it...”it just hasn’t been done right yet”, right? :rofl: :rofl:
You mean the American experiment which features a mixed economy including socialist programs? :clap:
OK Karl. :coffee:
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AZGrizFan wrote:
kalm wrote:
You mean the American experiment which features a mixed economy including socialist programs? :clap:
OK Karl. :coffee:
:lol:

Anytime Governor Brownback.

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