The Democratic Party...

[Skjellyfetti]

They voted wisely last time, it was 2008 and 2012 when they were stupid,


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Nah. In 2008, a voter had every right to want to go in a different direction.
2012 was a different story. That WAS stupid.

You don't remember Sarah Palin?

Don't think you even see much difference between McCain and Obama now.

[∞∞∞]

Nah. In 2008, a voter had every right to want to go in a different direction.
2012 was a different story. That WAS stupid.

You don't remember Sarah Palin?

Don't think you even see much difference between McCain and Obama now.

Obama will go down as one of the greats; 100% guarantee there'll be a memorial for him on the Mall.

And Trump's casket will probably get spit on as it lies in repose.

History tends to be very unkind to people like Trump.

[BDKJMU]

Constitutional conservative. Not.

Do you ever bother to think about the underlying idiocy of this line of thinking? If you disenfranchise the Trump voters, we’d get statist, anti-Liberty social policies out the wazoo from the low information voters of the left. But that’s OK with you, because you’re one of them.

I SAID "we can't."

Who is this "we" that you refer to? Your fellow Hillary loving lefties?

[BDKJMU]

You don't remember Sarah Palin?

Don't think you even see much difference between McCain and Obama now.

Obama will go down as one of the greats; 100% guarantee there'll be a memorial for him on the Mall.

And Trump's casket will probably get spit on as it lies in repose.

History tends to be very unkind to people like Trump.

The only reason he might get a memorial on the mall won't be for anything he did, but because he was the 1st halfrican American POTUS..

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Obama will go down as one of the greats; 100% guarantee there'll be a memorial for him on the Mall.

And Trump's casket will probably get spit on as it lies in repose.

History tends to be very unkind to people like Trump.

The only reason he might get a memorial on the mall won't be for anything he did, but because he was the 1st halfrican American POTUS..

Like any President, he had low moments, but he did accomplish a great deal of work considering the garbage he had to deal with from GOP. Google is your friend...it's not hard to look them up (although he ended up being way more centrist than he campaigned as).

But he represented the nation with grace, educated himself on issues, heeded advice from experts, spoke eloquently, and most importantly was a great family man and human being.

So like your generation raised Reagan to godlike levels, and trashed Carter's reputation to all hell...mine will fondly remember Obama and throw Trump to the trash heap of history (deservedly so).

And future historians will be even crueler to Trump and his merry band of idiots.

[css75]

The only reason he might get a memorial on the mall won't be for anything he did, but because he was the 1st halfrican American POTUS..

Like any President, he had low moments, but he did accomplish a great deal of work considering the garbage he had to deal with from GOP. Google is your friend...it's not hard to look them up (although he ended up being way more centrist than he campaigned as).

But he represented the nation with grace, educated himself on issues, heeded advice from experts, spoke eloquently, and most importantly was a great family man and human being.

So like your generation raised Reagan to godlike levels, and trashed Carter's reputation to all hell...mine will fondly remember Obama and throw Trump to the trash heap of history (deservedly so).

And future historians will be even crueler to Trump and his merry band of idiots.

What did he accomplish?


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[∞∞∞]

What did he accomplish?


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http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=Obama ... plishments

[kalm]

What did he accomplish?


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http://www.letmegooglethat.com/?q=Obama ... plishments

[SDHornet]

This. Any donk politico that takes a "moderate" stance will get vilified and lumped in with the rest of the "deplorables". The leftist train wreck is well on its way to terminal velocity (which I don't think will hit until after Trump wins re-election in 2020).

What is the political climate in SAC these days? Have been gone a few years.


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Sac proper (city limits) is full on leftist. The county is bluish purple (plenty of conks still out in the sticks). It'll be full on blue once more boomers start dying off.

[SDHornet]

I think a wish is the offspring of thought. But that doesn't matter. When I say "we can't" I mean we can't because we have to stick to certain principles even when the idea of discarding them is very tempting. In principle, I don't think people should be excluded from voting just because they voted in a stupid way last time.

You’re walking that back better than Trump did after Helsinki!

[SDHornet]

The only reason he might get a memorial on the mall won't be for anything he did, but because he was the 1st halfrican American POTUS..

Like any President, he had low moments, but he did accomplish a great deal of work considering the garbage he had to deal with from GOP. Google is your friend...it's not hard to look them up (although he ended up being way more centrist than he campaigned as).

But he represented the nation with grace, educated himself on issues, heeded advice from experts, spoke eloquently, and most importantly was a great family man and human being.

So like your generation raised Reagan to godlike levels, and trashed Carter's reputation to all hell...mine will fondly remember Obama and throw Trump to the trash heap of history (deservedly so).

And future historians will be even crueler to Trump and his merry band of idiots.

Let me guess, you bought the "Obomba got us out of Afghanistan and Iraq" meme's that were making the rounds back in 2016?

[css75]

What is the political climate in SAC these days? Have been gone a few years.


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Sac proper (city limits) is full on leftist. The county is bluish purple (plenty of conks still out in the sticks). It'll be full on blue once more boomers start dying off.

Not much change since I left, I think all the conservatives are in Placer County.


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[css75]

Like any President, he had low moments, but he did accomplish a great deal of work considering the garbage he had to deal with from GOP. Google is your friend...it's not hard to look them up (although he ended up being way more centrist than he campaigned as).

But he represented the nation with grace, educated himself on issues, heeded advice from experts, spoke eloquently, and most importantly was a great family man and human being.

So like your generation raised Reagan to godlike levels, and trashed Carter's reputation to all hell...mine will fondly remember Obama and throw Trump to the trash heap of history (deservedly so).

And future historians will be even crueler to Trump and his merry band of idiots.

What did he accomplish?


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I looked at that crap

The only real thing he did was Bn Laden, it was Bush’s work but he did make the call.

All the rest last step are failed liberal policies, Obamacare being the worst. Paris Accord was garbage as was Iran deal and the rest.

So tell me how great the 60 years of Dem rule in the inner city has been?


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[SDHornet]

Sac proper (city limits) is full on leftist. The county is bluish purple (plenty of conks still out in the sticks). It'll be full on blue once more boomers start dying off.

Not much change since I left, I think all the conservatives are in Placer County.


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How long ago did you leave?

[css75]

Not much change since I left, I think all the conservatives are in Placer County.


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How long ago did you leave?

2010; moved to Utah, no regrets at all, LDS easier to deal with than libs.


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[SDHornet]

How long ago did you leave?

2010; moved to Utah, no regrets at all, LDS easier to deal with than libs.


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Steinburg is the Sac mayor now and all he does is tow the leftist agenda. Fortunately I live in unincorporated county so I won't have to deal with the direct financial fallout of his leftist agenda.

[houndawg]

About what you'd expect from the capital of the 6th largest economy in the world I'd guess. I haven't been there since the population was under 250,000 and Rocklin was 30 minutes away through open pasture..

But yet you've got your finger on the pulse of their political climate?

Pretty rich coming from Mr. "Sarah Palin was a genius pick for VP".

[AZGrizFan]

But yet you've got your finger on the pulse of their political climate?

Pretty rich coming from Mr. "Sarah Palin was a genius pick for VP".

Yeah, because those two are just sooooo comparable.

You have really slipped, old man. Like, your gears are missing a couple cogs or something. You are NOT the same guy you were on here 3-4 years ago.

[AZGrizFan]

Oh, NOW you’re going to believe exit polls? They were wrong about everything else, but somehow right about this? Trust me, there are LOTS of “team Brown” that may not want to admit to voting for Trump, but they did. And there’s lots who may not want to admit supporting him, but they DO.

I refer to a month old poll about Trump gaining 10% with Hispanics, JSO brings up nearly 2 year old exit polling info...this is the guy that touts himself as a numbers guy...

[AZGrizFan]

Oh, NOW you’re going to believe exit polls? They were wrong about everything else, but somehow right about this? Trust me, there are LOTS of “team Brown” that may not want to admit to voting for Trump, but they did. And there’s lots who may not want to admit supporting him, but they DO.

I refer to a month old poll about Trump gaining 10% with Hispanics, JSO brings up nearly 2 year old exit polling info...this is the guy that touts himself as a numbers guy...

Only numbers that fit his narrative, bro. There's lies, damned lies, and then there's JSO's statistics. Kind of like his insistence that Trump's election hasn't had an effect on the stock market.

December 3, 2014: 17,912
November 4, 2016: 17,888

That's TWO FULL YEARS of the stock market not doing shit. OK, to be fair, it did go down .002%.

Two months after Trump's election: 19,990. Up 11.5%
One year after (Nov 3, 2017): 23,539 (31.3% increase in ONE YEAR)
Today: 25,557: 8.6% higher than November 3rd, 2017, and a 42.54% increase in just over 18 months. How much did the stock market go up in Obama's first 18 months you may ask? 18.9%.

Yeah. No effect.

[BDKJMU]

How come whenever there is a leftist donk protest, they leave behinds heaps of filth, garbage, & human waste?

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[AZGrizFan]

How come whenever there is a leftist donk protest, they are filth, garbage, & human waste?

[DuckDuckGriz]

How come whenever there is a leftist donk protest, they leave behinds heaps of filth, garbage, & human waste?

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If you'd like an example from the same region, the far right's tactics have been armed occupation and arson.

Soooo....

[AZGrizFan]

How come whenever there is a leftist donk protest, they leave behinds heaps of filth, garbage, & human waste?

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If you'd like an example from the same region, the far right's tactics have been armed occupation and arson.

Soooo....

So one occupation is worth 20-30 "protests"? Because the ACTUAL ratio is much, much higher than that. And the left is very, very good at arson as well. Also, destroying private property, damaging public property, etc., etc.

[JohnStOnge]

Who is this "we" that you refer to?

That majority of us in the country who are horrified that somebody like Donald Trump could get elected President of the United States. The natural impulse is to say we can't have people who would do something like vote for Donald Trump ever voting again.

But, of course, we can't do that even if we could.

I'd go with a poll test though. Where we set the bar on that might be dicey. But I'd say if we set it so that for the most part we'd screen out people with IQs below 115 it'd work. I'm pretty confident that if only people with IQs >115 could vote there wouldn't be a snowball's chance in hell that somebody like Trump could ever even be reasonably competitive much less win.