Ibanez wrote:Bisonfanatical wrote:
I can understand your view in part, but for those of us who have never been a part of the laws of Exodus or Leviticus, which is most of us, not only do we not understand the reason behind them but we also do not understand the views of their God.
One might reason that you would believe in these things if you were a Israelite who possessed a personal relationship for a few thousand years with the God of their faith (Old Testament).
On the other hand, the Christians follow their god of the New Testament, which in itself has been a sort of on going study, an ever changing evolution of faith over the last 1700 years, which of course has a different view of the previous group.
Which of course brings us to the Islamists ,who have their god of their own faith, and they have their own requirements based on their own faith also.
It is hard to gather all these groups under one umbrella since they are not a homogenous group nor do they share the same belief
Then here are many other groups who have different gods, or no belief in any god, which of course is convenient and allows much freedom for constantly changing view points when you are not confined to the constraints of a written document.
Now, depending upon which group you identify with would make that statement you made, far more understandable. The sabbath for instance is only important to the practicing Israelites/Jews/Prostelytes, to the rest of the world, not so much.
Observing the Saturday Sabbath for instance has not changed to a practicing Israelite, but to the Sunday sabbath believing Christians, it is of no (or limited) consequence.
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I read this twice and have no idea what you're talking about. If you aren't " part of the laws of Exodus or Leviticus," then what are you? The Christian Bible is both the OT and NT and we're instructed to live our lives according to its teachings.
There's the God of Abraham who is followed by Jews, Christians and Muslims. The difference is in the scripture and interpretation (among many other things).
And saying the Sabbath is only important to the "practicing Israelites/Jews/Prostelytes" is probably one of the most ridiculous statements in this thread - which is saying a lot. I'm sure you meant to say something else, because surely Catholics, Protestants and Muslims keep holy the Sabbath. I know quite a few old timers that will not do anything on a Sunday b/c it's a day of rest.
Unless you are an Israelite, your ancestors most certainly did not live under the 5 books of moses, not one of them, or mine, or an other non-Jewish person ... pretty straight forward.
Christians worship a god of the Israelites that they never knew, and don't want to understand. What they/we really worship is the 3 headed god of Constantine's Roman Universal Church. The Jesus God, even thought that name is only 500 years old or so. ..
The Sabbath is and always was Saturday, the day of the God who declared his name as Yehovah.
Sunday is some christian "lords day", the lord of the imagination perhaps. It is the first day of the week, not the 7th. It always has been and always will be.
The Christian bible is both the old testament, when it is useful, and the new testament in all of it manipulated scriptures.
The Israelite scriptures was only the old testament, which is called the Tanakh by them.
Don't ever think that the Messiah EVER quoted from the NT my friend because it never happened.
The God of Abraham never made a covenant with us, unless you have a chapter and verse you would like to share with the class?
P.S. the God of Abraham is only understood by the people who are declared his people in the OT, by Him.
Israelites, Christians, and Muslims most certainly do not worship the same gods, look at their belief systems.
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What the hell does any of that mean?
