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SeattleGriz wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Which rules 9-0 against him.

I'm REALLY hoping that he pushes this thing! :nod: :nod: :nod:

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How does this affect DACA. Wasn't that an executive order as well? Surely that can't stand under the weight of all the Lefts virtue signaling.
I think that the Second Amendment needs a thorough review as well.

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mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:How does this affect DACA. Wasn't that an executive order as well? Surely that can't stand under the weight of all the Lefts virtue signaling.
I think that the Second Amendment needs a thorough review as well.

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My point is you can see Trump's 3D chess in action. If one executive order (birthright citizenship) can't stand, then why should another (DACA).

The Left knee jerks so badly over Trump, all he has to do is tweet. The Left will continue to look unhinged on immigration when this is all done.
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mainejeff wrote:
I think that the Second Amendment needs a thorough review as well.

:coffee:
My point is you can see Trump's 3D chess in action. If one executive order (birthright citizenship) can't stand, then why should another (DACA).

The Left knee jerks so badly over Trump, all he has to do is tweet. The Left will continue to look unhinged on immigration when this is all done.
I'm all for the ancient Constitution having a thorough vetting and being updated for 2018 & beyond. :thumb:

What about you?

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mainejeff wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:My point is you can see Trump's 3D chess in action. If one executive order (birthright citizenship) can't stand, then why should another (DACA).

The Left knee jerks so badly over Trump, all he has to do is tweet. The Left will continue to look unhinged on immigration when this is all done.
I'm all for the ancient Constitution having a thorough vetting and being updated for 2018 & beyond. :thumb:

What about you?

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Well, it’s like the old man said...

Be careful what you wish for... and that cuts both ways

We have a document that largely was a work of genius... it, and it’s authors, correctly anticipated the worst impulses of man when he has power. As virtuous as any one side thinks it is, it is still composed of people - the most murderous, fratricidal beings on this planet... for millennia and counting... the founders recognized this. That’s why, on top of all the tenets of the Enlightenment that you find in the Constitution, you also find an Amendment that basically says, “If we fvcked this up, you at least still have your guns”

Literally hundreds of millions of people have died in service of your ideology, as well as the ideology you oppose - the dusty old document you dislike so much has carried loads of water to keep you and the rest of the pampered post - WWII Americans away from that
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CID1990 wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
I'm all for the ancient Constitution having a thorough vetting and being updated for 2018 & beyond. :thumb:

What about you?

:coffee:
Well, it’s like the old man said...

Be careful what you wish for... and that cuts both ways

We have a document that largely was a work of genius... it, and it’s authors, correctly anticipated the worst impulses of man when he has power. As virtuous as any one side thinks it is, it is still composed of people - the most murderous, fratricidal beings on this planet... for millennia and counting... the founders recognized this. That’s why, on top of all the tenets of the Enlightenment that you find in the Constitution, you also find an Amendment that basically says, “If we fvcked this up, you at least still have your guns”

Literally hundreds of millions of people have died in service of your ideology, as well as the ideology you oppose - the dusty old document you dislike so much has carried loads of water to keep you and the rest of the pampered post - WWII Americans away from that
It’s all about interpretation man. Yours. Mine. Trump. The Supreme Court. Etc. Etc.

Why do you think that I hate the Constitution? I’m not trying to change it.....the President of the United States of America is. :thumb:

If he succeeds in opening Pandora’s Box......all I’m saying is that maybe this Birthright Citizenship stuff isn’t the only thing that we should be examining.

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Re: Trump to use Executive Order to End Birthright Citizenship

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CID1990 wrote:
Well, it’s like the old man said...

Be careful what you wish for... and that cuts both ways

We have a document that largely was a work of genius... it, and it’s authors, correctly anticipated the worst impulses of man when he has power. As virtuous as any one side thinks it is, it is still composed of people - the most murderous, fratricidal beings on this planet... for millennia and counting... the founders recognized this. That’s why, on top of all the tenets of the Enlightenment that you find in the Constitution, you also find an Amendment that basically says, “If we fvcked this up, you at least still have your guns”

Literally hundreds of millions of people have died in service of your ideology, as well as the ideology you oppose - the dusty old document you dislike so much has carried loads of water to keep you and the rest of the pampered post - WWII Americans away from that
It’s all about interpretation man. Yours. Mine. Trump. The Supreme Court. Etc. Etc.

Why do you think that I hate the Constitution? I’m not trying to change it.....the President of the United States of America is. :thumb:

If he succeeds in opening Pandora’s Box......all I’m saying is that maybe this Birthright Citizenship stuff isn’t the only thing that we should be examining.

:coffee:
You sound curiously like Alex Jones

Tell me more about the constitutional Trumpageddon

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He’s been talking about it for 3 days straight....I don’t know what else to tell you.
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Anarchy makes the other side panicky. :coffee:
Well played, Lin. :thumb:
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mainejeff wrote:
It’s all about interpretation man. Yours. Mine. Trump. The Supreme Court. Etc. Etc.

Why do you think that I hate the Constitution? I’m not trying to change it.....the President of the United States of America is. :thumb:

If he succeeds in opening Pandora’s Box......all I’m saying is that maybe this Birthright Citizenship stuff isn’t the only thing that we should be examining.

:coffee:
When Trump gets 2/3's of both Houses of Congress to agree with him, and then 3/4 of the state legislatures to agree with him, or if 2/3's of the states opt to have a Constitutional Convention, then we will modify birthright citizenship. Same goes for other changes to the Constitution. Isn't all that difficult.
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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: What idiot wrote that?
I believe it was based on Trumps first tweet where he actually started taking full credit for the stock market
which was about a year ago...

from that specific date the market is actually 300 points below
Just a question, i really don't follow these things that closely.

Where is it from when he came into office?

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mainejeff wrote:
Ibanez wrote: We're already there...
Not quite.

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bluehenbillk wrote:Not hard to see Trump's plan here:

-Issue Executive Order

-Federal Judge rules against Trump

-Appeal goes all the way too....you guessed it...the Supreme Court
I am under the assumption (not a scholar) that the federal courts were primarily created after the Constitution anyway.
The Supreme Court is recognized as a 3rd branch.
As a President from either party I would tell any lower court to go pound sand of they over ride my decision, force them to go to the Supreme Court right of the bat.

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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
Anarchy makes the other side panicky. :coffee:
Well played, Lin. :thumb:
That was for you. I know you're the only one that would get those comments.

I've been playing the Lottery to get tix to either Charlotte or Durham. For some reason last week, I did all the cities and WON!

I won tickets for Oct 24, my 10 yr wedding anniversary.


Sadly, the tickets for the London. :wall: :wall: :wall:
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Bisonfanatical wrote:
mainejeff wrote:
Not quite.

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Bisonfanatical wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
I believe it was based on Trumps first tweet where he actually started taking full credit for the stock market
which was about a year ago...

from that specific date the market is actually 300 points below
Just a question, i really don't follow these things that closely.

Where is it from when he came into office?

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Ibanez wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Well played, Lin. :thumb:
That was for you. I know you're the only one that would get those comments.

I've been playing the Lottery to get tix to either Charlotte or Durham. For some reason last week, I did all the cities and WON!

I won tickets for Oct 24, my 10 yr wedding anniversary.


Sadly, the tickets for the London. :wall: :wall: :wall:
What were the costs of next day flights? You'd already be saving on the theatre tix (although London has the lottery tickets at 10 GBP, which is a little more than the $10 lottery tickets here in the states).

I'm impressed you won - the lottery my wife and I won a few years ago was the old website one back when the original cast was in NYC. I've played the lottery almost every day since then, and when they moved to the app, and I haven't won since. I've been playing the NYC all the time, and I was playing the Washington DC one when the tour was there and I'm still playing the Boston one. It's 6 hours to Boston from where I am so that's almost the limit for me. I haven't played the Durham or Charlotte ones as they're just too far. The tour comes to Philly sometime soon so obviously I'll play that one. I thought maybe by playing the trivia game in the app that that would increase my chances - I'm up to 196 stars now and apparently no change in my luck!
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GannonFan wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That was for you. I know you're the only one that would get those comments.

I've been playing the Lottery to get tix to either Charlotte or Durham. For some reason last week, I did all the cities and WON!

I won tickets for Oct 24, my 10 yr wedding anniversary.


Sadly, the tickets for the London. :wall: :wall: :wall:
What were the costs of next day flights? You'd already be saving on the theatre tix (although London has the lottery tickets at 10 GBP, which is a little more than the $10 lottery tickets here in the states).

I'm impressed you won - the lottery my wife and I won a few years ago was the old website one back when the original cast was in NYC. I've played the lottery almost every day since then, and when they moved to the app, and I haven't won since. I've been playing the NYC all the time, and I was playing the Washington DC one when the tour was there and I'm still playing the Boston one. It's 6 hours to Boston from where I am so that's almost the limit for me. I haven't played the Durham or Charlotte ones as they're just too far. The tour comes to Philly sometime soon so obviously I'll play that one. I thought maybe by playing the trivia game in the app that that would increase my chances - I'm up to 196 stars now and apparently no change in my luck!
Tix were about $1k, one way.
It would be cheaper to buy tickets for a CLT show than the airfare, hotel and food. I still do Boston, Chicago and NYC. Those are easy/relatively cheap to get to. I haven't been playing the trivia long and i'm not playing every day so i think i'm around 50 stars.
I'm going to continue trying. Durham starts in a few days and it's about 2.5 hours away.

Btw, you can cheap airline tix from Philly to CLT. I flew for less than $100 earlier this year.
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Ibanez wrote:
Bisonfanatical wrote:
Just a question, i really don't follow these things that closely.

Where is it from when he came into office?

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Ibanez wrote: DIJA is up ~ 3.2%
:suspicious: :suspicious: :suspicious:
Show your work.
1/20/17 - 19,827.25
10/30/18 - 24,874.64

That's a difference of 5,047.42

According to the formula I looked up online, you divide the difference by the beginning total to arrive to the percentage increase

Sorry...3.92%
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: :suspicious: :suspicious: :suspicious:
Show your work.
1/20/17 - 19,827.25
10/30/18 - 24,874.64

That's a difference of 5,047.42

According to the formula I looked up online, you divide the difference by the beginning total to arrive to the percentage increase

Sorry...3.92%
:wtf: :suspicious:

Is 3.92 going to become the new 6.93? :lol:
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote: 1/20/17 - 19,827.25
10/30/18 - 24,874.64

That's a difference of 5,047.42

According to the formula I looked up online, you divide the difference by the beginning total to arrive to the percentage increase

Sorry...3.92%
:wtf: :suspicious:

Is 3.92 going to become the new 6.93? :lol:
:rofl: :rofl:

Hey Ibanez, try that again.
5,047.42 / 19,827.25 = 25.5%

But you were close. :lol: :lol:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
HI54UNI wrote:
:wtf: :suspicious:

Is 3.92 going to become the new 6.93? :lol:
:rofl: :rofl:

Hey Ibanez, try that again.
5,047.42 / 19,827.25 = 25.5%

But you were close. :lol: :lol:
Fuck me. :ohno:

I'll admit i'm not good at math, especially division.


Ahh..I went back to the forumla and found my mistake:
divide the increase by the original number and multiply the answer by 100.
The original answer confused me and I didn't read all the instructions.
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HI54UNI wrote:
Ibanez wrote: 1/20/17 - 19,827.25
10/30/18 - 24,874.64

That's a difference of 5,047.42

According to the formula I looked up online, you divide the difference by the beginning total to arrive to the percentage increase

Sorry...3.92%
:wtf: :suspicious:

Is 3.92 going to become the new 6.93? :lol:
Probably not. I didn't claim to be part of MENSA
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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: :rofl: :rofl:

Hey Ibanez, try that again.
5,047.42 / 19,827.25 = 25.5%

But you were close. :lol: :lol:
Fuck me. :ohno:

I'll admit i'm not good at math, especially division.


Ahh..I went back to the forumla and found my mistake:
divide the increase by the original number and multiply the answer by 100.
The original answer confused me and I didn't read all the instructions.
:tothehand: :tothehand: :tothehand:
STOP!!!! PLEASE STOP!!!!

Your error was having the numerator and denominator reversed.

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Ibanez wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: :rofl: :rofl:

Hey Ibanez, try that again.
5,047.42 / 19,827.25 = 25.5%

But you were close. :lol: :lol:
Fuck me. :ohno:

I'll admit i'm not good at math, especially division.


Ahh..I went back to the forumla and found my mistake:
divide the increase by the original number and multiply the answer by 100.
The original answer confused me and I didn't read all the instructions.
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