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To Trip, Fidel Castro is just a bit left of center.
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∞∞∞ wrote:Obama was definitely more moderate in action than words. He was center-left at best.
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Some of us realized this the day he appointed Geithner. Others learned when he dumped single payer. Still others saw the light when stepped up the war effort. And then he apologized for not working more closely with Republicans and agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts.AZGrizFan wrote:∞∞∞ wrote:Obama was definitely more moderate in action than words. He was center-left at best.
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Obama bad...
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"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.kalm wrote:Some of us realized this the day he appointed Geithner. Others learned when he dumped single payer. Still others saw the light when stepped up the war effort. And then he apologized for not working more closely with Republicans and agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts.AZGrizFan wrote:
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AZGrizFan wrote:"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.kalm wrote:
Some of us realized this the day he appointed Geithner. Others learned when he dumped single payer. Still others saw the light when stepped up the war effort. And then he apologized for not working more closely with Republicans and agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts.
Oooh....
The boogeyman might get the White house back
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Your words, not mine.Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.
Oooh....
The boogeyman might get the White house back
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CID1990 wrote: Anyone who sees Hillary Clinton as anything other than a charlatan is no different than someone who sees Donald Trump as anything other than a charlatan
The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread
AZGrizFan wrote:"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.kalm wrote:
Some of us realized this the day he appointed Geithner. Others learned when he dumped single payer. Still others saw the light when stepped up the war effort. And then he apologized for not working more closely with Republicans and agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts.
Absolutely 100% correct, and I am not referring to Kalm.
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Maybe Biden picks Obama for VP.... imagine the scene at RNC HQ...Chizzang wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.
Oooh....
The boogeyman might get the White house back
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CAA Flagship wrote:CID1990 wrote: Anyone who sees Hillary Clinton as anything other than a charlatan is no different than someone who sees Donald Trump as anything other than a charlatan
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Yeah...we want single payer and it would help people immediately but let’s do it in stages.... over several administrations....just to piss the conks off....css75 wrote:AZGrizFan wrote:
"dumped" single payer? The mandate? The entire health care debacle was a pathway to single payer...they're not done yet, especially if they get the white house back.
Absolutely 100% correct, and I am not referring to Kalm.
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Well, to reclaim the mantel of resident Obama dick sucker...
Obama would have happily signed single payer. He didn't kill it. Moderate Senators like Lieberman and Nelson did.
Obama would have happily signed single payer. He didn't kill it. Moderate Senators like Lieberman and Nelson did.
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houndawg wrote:Maybe Biden picks Obama for VP.... imagine the scene at RNC HQ...Chizzang wrote:
Oooh....
The boogeyman might get the White house back
If that were to happen, Biden family should be picking funeral clothes, Obama does not like being #2.
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At this point - at any level - I won't donate money to candidates which don't support a single-payer system. Or any Presidential candidate that won't put in a good faith effort to push it through.
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Too nuanced for klammySkjellyfetti wrote:Well, to reclaim the mantel of resident Obama dick sucker...
Obama would have happily signed single payer. He didn't kill it. Moderate Senators like Lieberman and Nelson did.
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Nice article on how many times there has been a nervous breakdown over Trump's promises.
Best point of the article: "Well, the country is doing just fine, thank you. We’ve survived and prospered. No one is truly “irreplaceable.” That notion might bruise D.C. egos and constrain professional biographers, but it’s true."
Amazing how many people think our government is overflowing with capable people.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... gn-promise
Best point of the article: "Well, the country is doing just fine, thank you. We’ve survived and prospered. No one is truly “irreplaceable.” That notion might bruise D.C. egos and constrain professional biographers, but it’s true."
Amazing how many people think our government is overflowing with capable people.
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Do you think he'll do it himself or sub it out to Hillary?css75 wrote:houndawg wrote:
Maybe Biden picks Obama for VP.... imagine the scene at RNC HQ...
If that were to happen, Biden family should be picking funeral clothes, Obama does not like being #2.
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You are of tender years and forgetful, young Skywalker. Hillary was raised Republican, in Chicago no less. She was a Goldwater girl and says that it wa the Republican Party that left her not the other way around. If you were older you would know that to be true from experience.css75 wrote:kalm wrote:
1). I think UNI was being tongue in cheek but your greater point stands.
2). Clinton is not progressive. She is status quo with a slight veneer of populism that shouldn’t have been believed. You supported a moderate Republican.
Credibility for Kalm just cratered. Hillary a moderate Republican, .
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And Trump was raised Democrat....it’s a crazy, mixed up world we live in.houndawg wrote:You are of tender years and forgetful, young Skywalker. Hillary was raised Republican, in Chicago no less. She was a Goldwater girl and says that it wa the Republican Party that left her not the other way around. If you were older you would know that to be true from experience.css75 wrote:
Credibility for Kalm just cratered. Hillary a moderate Republican, .
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Causing you and I to vote for the same candidate, brother AZ.AZGrizFan wrote:And Trump was raised Democrat....it’s a crazy, mixed up world we live in.houndawg wrote:
You are of tender years and forgetful, young Skywalker. Hillary was raised Republican, in Chicago no less. She was a Goldwater girl and says that it wa the Republican Party that left her not the other way around. If you were older you would know that to be true from experience.
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kalm wrote:Causing you and I to vote for the same candidate, brother AZ.AZGrizFan wrote:
And Trump was raised Democrat....it’s a crazy, mixed up world we live in.
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It's a stupid question, because hell yeah he wants to rein in Robert Mueller.
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I heard it spoken on one of the political shows I DVR'ed this weekend and it's probably going to be true: 2019 is going to be a high water mark in US history in years of political drama.
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