2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[JohnStOnge]

BTW, if any of you think pushing for "Medicare for All" would be a bad position to take politically you probably ought to think again. I've been watching that over time. I just Googled to get the article at https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... re-for-all but it is by no means the only report on the phenomenon. When a politician says they want "Medicare for All" they are pushing for something somewhere around 2/3 of Americans want.

I personally don't think it's a good idea but that's irrelevant. As a political position it's a winner.

[kalm]

English, motherfucker!

Oh, Google it, you Palousian.

This ‘murica. You speak American here, Frenchie!

[Ivytalk]

BTW, if any of you think pushing for "Medicare for All" would be a bad position to take politically you probably ought to think again. I've been watching that over time. I just Googled to get the article at https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... re-for-all but it is by no means the only report on the phenomenon. When a politician says they want "Medicare for All" they are pushing for something somewhere around 2/3 of Americans want.

I personally don't think it's a good idea but that's irrelevant. As a political position it's a winner.

Faux-conservative-ersatz-libertarian JSO strikes again. You’re a dyed-in-the-wool lefty. One step removed from your man Huey Long.

[JohnStOnge]

BTW, if any of you think pushing for "Medicare for All" would be a bad position to take politically you probably ought to think again. I've been watching that over time. I just Googled to get the article at https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... re-for-all but it is by no means the only report on the phenomenon. When a politician says they want "Medicare for All" they are pushing for something somewhere around 2/3 of Americans want.

I personally don't think it's a good idea but that's irrelevant. As a political position it's a winner.

Faux-conservative-ersatz-libertarian JSO strikes again. You’re a dyed-in-the-wool lefty. One step removed from your man Huey Long.

Dude, it doesn't matter what you or I think of the "Medicare for All" thing. It's a very popular idea. It's a political winner. If anybody thinks that a Democrat candidate taking a "Medicare for All" position is going to be something that is going to hurt them they are wrong.

[Ivytalk]

Faux-conservative-ersatz-libertarian JSO strikes again. You’re a dyed-in-the-wool lefty. One step removed from your man Huey Long.

Dude, it doesn't matter what you or I think of the "Medicare for All" thing. It's a very popular idea. It's a political winner. If anybody thinks that a Democrat candidate taking a "Medicare for All" position is going to be something that is going to hurt them they are wrong.

So you’ll back it to get Trump out of office. Man of principle, my ass.

[JohnStOnge]

Dude, it doesn't matter what you or I think of the "Medicare for All" thing. It's a very popular idea. It's a political winner. If anybody thinks that a Democrat candidate taking a "Medicare for All" position is going to be something that is going to hurt them they are wrong.

So you’ll back it to get Trump out of office. Man of principle, my ass.

Yes it if comes to Harris or Trump I will back Harris unless something really horrible about her comes out. And that's because another principle is that character of the person in the President's position matters.

[css75]

Faux-conservative-ersatz-libertarian JSO strikes again. You’re a dyed-in-the-wool lefty. One step removed from your man Huey Long.

Dude, it doesn't matter what you or I think of the "Medicare for All" thing. It's a very popular idea. It's a political winner. If anybody thinks that a Democrat candidate taking a "Medicare for All" position is going to be something that is going to hurt them they are wrong.

This is a perfect position that shows how we as a country are heading into the dust bin of history. We are increasingly losing our independence and become no more dependent on government. This will not end well


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[AZGrizFan]

Ex Starbucks CEO announcing his run for president on 60 Minutes tonight. Claims he’s a “centrist independent”, but here are his positions:

* FOR the Paris Climate Accord
* FOR citizenship for 11 million illegals
* FOR healthcare for all (“every American has the RIGHT to healthcare”)

Sure sounds like a left-wing looney to me...

All I took from that segment is that he would probably siphon a few Democrat voters but wouldn't scratch Trump's base at all.

You should be rooting for him.

By the way, wrong thread for this. He's not running as a Dem.

I like Shultz, but he has NO chance in this two-party system, unfortunately. I hope Kasich runs as an R.

Remember, I didn’t vote for Trump either...

And I agree, he will siphon votes from Dems, assuming he gets that far.

[AZGrizFan]

So you’ll back it to get Trump out of office. Man of principle, my ass.

Yes it if comes to Harris or Trump I will back Harris unless something really horrible about her comes out. And that's because another principle is that character of the person in the President's position matters.

Yet in your derangement you’ve somehow convinced yourself that Hidabeast’s “character” is somehow better than Trumps...

[AZGrizFan]

* FOR the Paris Climate Accord
* FOR citizenship for 11 million illegals
* FOR healthcare for all (“every American has the RIGHT to healthcare”)

Sure sounds like a left-wing looney to me...

Just a question: you don't believe every American has the right to healthcare?

Really?

This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. You'd let poor sick people just fucking die?

C'mon man.

Not provided by the government, no.

[93henfan]

Just a question: you don't believe every American has the right to healthcare?

Really?

This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. You'd let poor sick people just fucking die?

C'mon man.

Not provided by the government, no.

Wow, that's harsh. No right to health care for the destitute? Just let 'em die.

I think we should be better than that.

[BDKJMU]

BTW, if any of you think pushing for "Medicare for All" would be a bad position to take politically you probably ought to think again. I've been watching that over time. I just Googled to get the article at https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... re-for-all but it is by no means the only report on the phenomenon. When a politician says they want "Medicare for All" they are pushing for something somewhere around 2/3 of Americans want.

I personally don't think it's a good idea but that's irrelevant. As a political position it's a winner.

The recent Kaiser poll has it at 56%
“...The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent..::

But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program....”
https://apnews.com/4516833e7fb644c9aa8bcc11048b2169

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 6#p1227974

Its all how you ask the question. If you polled:
“Do you support 100% government takeover of healthcare even if it meant higher taxes, longer wait times, and health care rationing” support would probably fall into the teens..

[Ivytalk]

Not provided by the government, no.

Wow, that's harsh. No right to health care for the destitute? Just let 'em die.

I think we should be better than that.

You’d better reconsider your new party affiliation. Libertarians are a party of minimal government, remember? You’d be happier as an unaffiliated voter. Be careful: there is an Independent Party in DE, and I’ll bet that a lot of its “members” consider themselves unaffiliated.

[houndawg]

* FOR the Paris Climate Accord
* FOR citizenship for 11 million illegals
* FOR healthcare for all (“every American has the RIGHT to healthcare”)

Sure sounds like a left-wing looney to me...

Just a question: you don't believe every American has the right to healthcare?

Really?

This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. You'd let poor sick people just **** die?

C'mon man.

He's a Libertarian. He got his so fuck you.

[houndawg]

By then trump/Pence will be in prison and Nancy Pelosi will be measuring drapes in the Oval Office..

How exactly will either of them be in prison?

The details remain unclear, but everybody Mueller goes after goes to prison.

[houndawg]

Don't worry IT, I'm voting libertarian. There is a good chance a donkey wins though so I hope it's someone who is capable.

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I always have to wait and see if Im going to vote Libertarian because sometimes theyll nominate some dude who wears a colander and casts spells


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Vermin Supreme has a good chance of pulling my vote from Willie Nelson next year. A pony for everybody? Sign me up.

[kalm]

BTW, if any of you think pushing for "Medicare for All" would be a bad position to take politically you probably ought to think again. I've been watching that over time. I just Googled to get the article at https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... re-for-all but it is by no means the only report on the phenomenon. When a politician says they want "Medicare for All" they are pushing for something somewhere around 2/3 of Americans want.

I personally don't think it's a good idea but that's irrelevant. As a political position it's a winner.

The recent Kaiser poll has it at 56%
“...The poll found that Americans initially support “Medicare-for-all,” 56 percent to 42 percent..::

But if they were told that a government-run system could lead to delays in getting care or higher taxes, support plunged to 26 percent and 37 percent, respectively. Support fell to 32 percent if it would threaten the current Medicare program....”
https://apnews.com/4516833e7fb644c9aa8bcc11048b2169

http://www.championshipsubdivision.com/ ... 6#p1227974

Its all how you ask the question. If you polled:
“Do you support 100% government takeover of healthcare even if it meant higher taxes, longer wait times, and health care rationing” support would probably fall into the teens..

How about "Do you support Medicare for all if it means cutting healthcare spending per person in half while having the same outcomes but people won't go bankrupt over medical bills and wait times will be mitigated by the fact that the private sector will still be in charge of providing care."?

[houndawg]

So you noticed it too?

I was hoping they'd ask more questions about his finances.

Apparently I noticed something about her that was different from what you noticed

Namely, a lack of substance

There are so many lefty versions of Trump waiting in the wings... you want entertainment- you’re about to get it in spades next year

At last - something in it for me!

[houndawg]

Agreed, there's a lot of folks on the left that have already written her off, and a lot of that is just due to how she went about trying to debunk stories around her heritage. She's damaged goods even among her own supporters. She'll stick around for awhile, but she's not a top level candidate any longer. She may have some ultimate say in where her support ends up going, but that's about it.

Ironically, she’s a victim of our fixation on style over substance.. and the Dems, being currently in thrall to an ideological purity movement, might be eating theirsmartest and most substantive candidate.

Amy Klobuchar

[Ivytalk]

Ironically, she’s a victim of our fixation on style over substance.. and the Dems, being currently in thrall to an ideological purity movement, might be eating theirsmartest and most substantive candidate.

Amy Klobuchar

Warren’s intellect is vastly overblown. Klobuchar is smarter, and she’s not a publicity hound (get it?) like Caramel or Spartacus or Gillibrand.

[mainejeff]

We are better than this.

[AZGrizFan]

Not provided by the government, no.

Wow, that's harsh. No right to health care for the destitute? Just let 'em die.

I think we should be better than that.

It's not harsh. The government has no business in the healthcare industry. Period. End of story.

Funny, but before Obamacare they didn't seem to be dying by the busload, did they?

[AZGrizFan]

Just a question: you don't believe every American has the right to healthcare?

Really?

This is supposed to be the greatest country on earth. You'd let poor sick people just **** die?

C'mon man.

He's a Libertarian. He got his so fuck you.

And mine wasn't just given to me. I worked my ass off for it for years. See the difference? Probably not...

[89Hen]

We are better than this.

I loved when Kamala said that... as if she isn't a big part of the problem.

[93henfan]

Wow, that's harsh. No right to health care for the destitute? Just let 'em die.

I think we should be better than that.

It's not harsh. The government has no business in the healthcare industry. Period. End of story.

Funny, but before Obamacare they didn't seem to be dying by the busload, did they?

So just let 'em die?