How Long Will The Next Shutdown Last? (Feb 2019)

[Ibanez]

Trump henchman Hannity has poured gasoline on the fire again, criticizing the preliminary Congressional spending deal. Coulter will probably join in. Trump needs more attention, so he’ll probably shut the guvmint down again. The national emergency shtick will get the Tangerine Twit a boatload of lawsuits and likely articles of impeachment. Lawdamighty, what’s a POTUS to do?

I wavered yesterday, but I’ll go back to my poll answer of no shutdown. Drumpf will take the deal and spin it faster than a broken washing machine.

Fox News was saying this morning that even if he signs, there's no way for Trump to spin this as a political win.

[Skjellyfetti]

So if Trump signs this new bill he'll actually be getting less than what was offered in December. What a n awful deal maker.

Wrong. Trump was offered ZERO for a wall/fence/barrier in Dec. You don't remember Pelosi's "Zero $$ for a wall" statements back in December?

The Senate had a bipartisan bill for $1.6 billion and 65 miles of fencing sine June.

Trump wanted more. Now he gets $1.3 billion and 55 miles.

And, it didn't matter what Nancy thought before January. The House could have passed it without a single Democratic vote.

[Skjellyfetti]

I wavered yesterday, but I’ll go back to my poll answer of no shutdown. Drumpf will take the deal and spin it faster than a broken washing machine.

Fox News was saying this morning that even if he signs, there's no way for Trump to spin this as a political win.

BDK will give it his best effort.

[Ibanez]

Wrong. Trump was offered ZERO for a wall/fence/barrier in Dec. You don't remember Pelosi's "Zero $$ for a wall" statements back in December?

The Senate had a bipartisan bill for $1.6 billion and 65 miles of fencing sine June.

Trump wanted more. Now he gets $1.3 billion and 55 miles.

And, it didn't matter what Nancy thought before January. The House could have passed it without a single Democratic vote.

Less is more.

He shutdown the government and held out for less money! What an asshole.

[Ivytalk]

The Senate had a bipartisan bill for $1.6 billion and 65 miles of fencing sine June.

Trump wanted more. Now he gets $1.3 billion and 55 miles.

And, it didn't matter what Nancy thought before January. The House could have passed it without a single Democratic vote.

Less is more.

He shutdown the government and held out for less money! What an asshole.

That approach explains the four bankruptcies, and he’s hard at work on a fifth (the US of A). What a shytty negotiator.

[Ibanez]

Less is more.

He shutdown the government and held out for less money! What an asshole.

That approach explains the four bankruptcies, and he’s hard at work on a fifth (the US of A). What a shytty negotiator.

It's the Art of the Deal

[AZGrizFan]

Wrong. Trump was offered ZERO for a wall/fence/barrier in Dec. You don't remember Pelosi's "Zero $$ for a wall" statements back in December?

The Senate had a bipartisan bill for $1.6 billion and 65 miles of fencing sine June.

Trump wanted more. Now he gets $1.3 billion and 55 miles.

And, it didn't matter what Nancy thought before January. The House could have passed it without a single Democratic vote.

A gigantic loss for American security.

[Grizalltheway]

The Senate had a bipartisan bill for $1.6 billion and 65 miles of fencing sine June.

Trump wanted more. Now he gets $1.3 billion and 55 miles.

And, it didn't matter what Nancy thought before January. The House could have passed it without a single Democratic vote.

A gigantic loss for American security.

And for the tunneling and ladder industries.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Anyone that **** that dumb cunt deserves AIDS

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Sour grapes. You never had a chance.

I've nailed better dozens of times. She's not worthy

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Wrong. Trump was offered ZERO for a wall/fence/barrier in Dec. You don't remember Pelosi's "Zero $$ for a wall" statements back in December?

You do know that Pelosi was in the minority in December and it was a Republican Congress that had 2 years to get this done and they couldn't. Gee - I wonder why. I'm sure you'll blame Democrats. You have never cease to amaze anyone with your lack of objectivity.

The agreement, which includes $1.375 billion for a border barrier, falls well short of the $5.7 billion Trump originally demanded for a wall. It even falls short of the $1.6 billion included in a Senate package last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics ... index.html


Now explain how a bill, with less money, is a win? He's in a no win situation. He HAS to sign this otherwise it's his fault, again, for a shut down.

No it's not, it's been the democrats not protecting Americans both times

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

[Grizalltheway]

You do know that Pelosi was in the minority in December and it was a Republican Congress that had 2 years to get this done and they couldn't. Gee - I wonder why. I'm sure you'll blame Democrats. You have never cease to amaze anyone with your lack of objectivity.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics ... index.html


Now explain how a bill, with less money, is a win? He's in a no win situation. He HAS to sign this otherwise it's his fault, again, for a shut down.

No it's not, it's been the democrats not protecting Americans both times

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

I thought Americans were supposed to protect themselves?

[AZGrizFan]

A gigantic loss for American security.

And for the tunneling and ladder industries.

Maybe we should get rid of TSA too? They provide far less security than a wall would and you don't think a wall would work. Then again, your girlfriend AOC wants to ban air travel within the next ten years anyway, so maybe its a moot point.

[AZGrizFan]

No it's not, it's been the democrats not protecting Americans both times

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

I thought Americans were supposed to protect themselves?

You and your ilk are doing your damnest to make that an impossibility.

[Grizalltheway]

I thought Americans were supposed to protect themselves?

You and your ilk are doing your damnest to make that an impossibility.

Always someone else's fault, eh?

[93henfan]

You do know that Pelosi was in the minority in December and it was a Republican Congress that had 2 years to get this done and they couldn't. Gee - I wonder why. I'm sure you'll blame Democrats. You have never cease to amaze anyone with your lack of objectivity.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics ... index.html


Now explain how a bill, with less money, is a win? He's in a no win situation. He HAS to sign this otherwise it's his fault, again, for a shut down.

No it's not, it's been the democrats not protecting Americans both times

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

It's the Democrats' fault that a Republican led Congress in both Chambers passed a budget that Trump said he would sign on a Thursday, then he decided to turn on Rush on Friday morning and decided to renege and cause the longest government shutdown in history? Then he ends it by agreeing to no money at all. Then he agrees to less money in December to avoid another poll-crippling shutdown in February? He is SHREWD!

The guy has no clue how to negotiate or run a country, and now the walls are closing in on him.

Kind of feel sorry for the pathetic fellow just a little. His tactics just don't work.

[Ibanez]

No it's not, it's been the democrats not protecting Americans both times

Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

It's the Democrats' fault that a Republican led Congress in both Chambers passed a budget that Trump said he would sign on a Thursday, then he decided to turn on Rush on Friday morning and decided to renege and cause the longest government shutdown in history? Then he ends it by agreeing to no money at all. Then he agrees to less money in December to avoid another poll-crippling shutdown in February? He is SHREWD!

The guy has no clue how to negotiate or run a country, and now the walls are closing in on him.

Kind of feel sorry for the pathetic fellow just a little. His tactics just don't work.

BDK assures me you're wrong.


This is like the Seinfeld episode where George negotiates with NBC for less money.

[93henfan]

It's the Democrats' fault that a Republican led Congress in both Chambers passed a budget that Trump said he would sign on a Thursday, then he decided to turn on Rush on Friday morning and decided to renege and cause the longest government shutdown in history? Then he ends it by agreeing to no money at all. Then he agrees to less money in December to avoid another poll-crippling shutdown in February? He is SHREWD!

The guy has no clue how to negotiate or run a country, and now the walls are closing in on him.

Kind of feel sorry for the pathetic fellow just a little. His tactics just don't work.

BDK assures me you're wrong.


This is like the Seinfeld episode where George negotiates with NBC for less money.

I was kind of hoping Trump had some balls. I could use another five weeks off. With back pay and tax return I was good until the DoD shutdown deadline on September 30.

[Ibanez]

BDK assures me you're wrong.


This is like the Seinfeld episode where George negotiates with NBC for less money.

I was kind of hoping Trump had some balls. I could use another five weeks off. With back pay and tax return I was good until the DoD shutdown deadline on September 30.

Trumps a giant wuss and the only hold outs are fanbois like BDK, AG and CitGrad who are secretly hoping for some Purge of all the non whites.

I watched The Oath a few nights ago and I wouldn't put it past BDK and others to get behind a loyalty oath to the POTUS.

Spoiler: show

[AZGrizFan]

You and your ilk are doing your damnest to make that an impossibility.

Always someone else's fault, eh?

Quit trying to take away my fully automatic assault rifles with 50-round clips....beyotch.

[AZGrizFan]

The guy has no clue how to negotiate or run a country, and now the walls are closing in on him.

Given the # of excellent decisions he's made to date (this one NOT included), I'd have to disagree here.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

And for the tunneling and ladder industries.

Maybe we should get rid of TSA too? They provide far less security than a wall would and you don't think a wall would work. Then again, your girlfriend AOC wants to ban air travel within the next ten years anyway, so maybe its a moot point.

I agree TSA is "faux security" at its finest!

"Lets disarm all these people and make them safer," fucking losers. You have to literally turn in your man card to become employed at TSA, Ibaneznization of America at its finest

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I thought Americans were supposed to protect themselves?

You and your ilk are doing your damnest to make that an impossibility.

Yep they want you disarmed so they can be "progressive" and stuff

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I was kind of hoping Trump had some balls. I could use another five weeks off. With back pay and tax return I was good until the DoD shutdown deadline on September 30.

Trumps a giant wuss and the only hold outs are fanbois like BDK, AG and CitGrad who are secretly hoping for some Purge of all the non whites.

I watched The Oath a few nights ago and I wouldn't put it past BDK and others to get behind a loyalty oath to the POTUS.

Spoiler: show

Im cool with this, you and your pussy fanboi name calling work work on a real man. We shrug off your agenda like water of a waterboarded terrorists face. Go call names to somebody else on the playground little girl that doesnt work in America

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Always someone else's fault, eh?

Quit trying to take away my fully automatic assault rifles with 50-round clips....beyotch.

No such thing as an assault rifle
Semi Auto Sporting rifles use magazines not "clips"
Magazines only come in 5,10,20,30,60 and 120.

Beyotch


*Magpul only magazines everything else is junk that will fail often

[BDKJMU]

Wrong. Trump was offered ZERO for a wall/fence/barrier in Dec. You don't remember Pelosi's "Zero $$ for a wall" statements back in December?

You do know that Pelosi was in the minority in December and it was a Republican Congress that had 2 years to get this done and they couldn't. Gee - I wonder why. I'm sure you'll blame Democrats. You have never cease to amaze anyone with your lack of objectivity.

The agreement, which includes $1.375 billion for a border barrier, falls well short of the $5.7 billion Trump originally demanded for a wall. It even falls short of the $1.6 billion included in a Senate package last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/13/politics ... index.html

Now explain how a bill, with less money, is a win? He's in a no win situation. He HAS to sign this otherwise it's his fault, again, for a shut down.

Again, you were wrong when you stated

So if Trump signs this new bill he'll actually be getting less than what was offered in December. What a n awful deal maker.

The 1.6 billion in barrier funding offered in the Senate package was earlier in 2018 (like the CNN link you used stated) (believe it was June) which was no longer on the table in DECEMBER. In Dec Its was a lame duck conk House, and the conks didn't have 60 votes in the Senate votes in the senate to pass a bill on their own.

DECEMBER donk offer: 1.6 billion increase to DOHS funding towards border security/ZERO $$ for fencing/wall.
Now: 3+ billion increase funding towards border security (to a total of about $23 billion): $1.7 billion non fencing/wall + $1.375 billion fencing/wall.

I didn't say it was a win. But its $1.375 billion more in fencing/wall for FY 2019 than was offered by the donks in Dec.