Are We Ready for Robo Umps in Baseball?

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:38 am

Is it time to embrace the future and have computers call balls and strikes in baseball. The Atlantic League is experimenting with it now. The computers would be more consistent for sure. The umps wear an ear piece and still makes the call once the pitch is called upstairs. What you all think?

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:36 am

I'm not a die-hard baseball fan, so I'm for it. Simply too many inconsistent calls that can completely change a game. 2-1 pitch that gets called a strike when it's completely out of the zone.... that's a game changer.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:50 am

I AM a diehard baseball fan and am all for it.

Post by **Col Hogan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:53 am

For balls and strikes...yes!!!

Human umps for all other calls...

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:53 am

Col Hogan wrote:For balls and strikes...yes!!!

Human umps for all other calls...

Exactly.

css75 · Post by **css75** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:07 pm

Col Hogan wrote:For balls and strikes...yes!!!

Human umps for all other calls...

Totally concur, computer does better on balls and strikes. This would also cut down on dugout chirping over balls and strikes.

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Post by **dbackjon** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:13 pm

89Hen wrote:I'm not a die-hard baseball fan, so I'm for it. Simply too many inconsistent calls that can completely change a game. 2-1 pitch that gets called a strike when it's completely out of the zone.... that's a game changer.

Yup.

IF it is a strike it's a strike. None of this pitch-framing BS, or playing favorites.

Post by **93henfan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:06 pm

Too bad the Patriots don't play baseball. They'd have that shit hacked before the season started.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:21 pm

I like the idea. But why do they still need the umpire behind home plate with an earpiece?

Unions.

Post by **93henfan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:40 pm

Serious question. The plate width is fixed. The markers for the top and bottom of the zone vary by batter. Is there a person in a booth somewhere setting the upper and lower limit at the beginning of each at bat or is there an algorithm in the computer to set them? I could see where a human could be accused of bias.

Post by **AZGrizFan** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:49 pm

Ivytalk wrote:I like the idea. But why do they still need the umpire behind home plate with an earpiece?

Unions.

That ump does lots more than call/track balls and strikes.

Scoring plays at the plate
sweeping off the plate
jawing with the catcher
breaking up get-togethers on the mound
taking shots to the biscuits on passed balls
arguing with the manager

Who's gonna do all that stuff?

css75 · Post by **css75** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:35 pm

AZGrizFan wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:I like the idea. But why do they still need the umpire behind home plate with an earpiece?

Unions.
That ump does lots more than call/track balls and strikes.

Scoring plays at the plate
sweeping off the plate
jawing with the catcher
breaking up get-togethers on the mound
taking shots to the biscuits on passed balls
arguing with the manager

Who's gonna do all that stuff?

Don’t forget checked swings,

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Post by **CAA Flagship** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:19 am

css75 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
That ump does lots more than call/track balls and strikes.

Scoring plays at the plate
sweeping off the plate
jawing with the catcher
breaking up get-togethers on the mound
taking shots to the biscuits on passed balls
arguing with the manager

Who's gonna do all that stuff?
Don’t forget checked swings,

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Hit by pitch.
Foul ball calls.
Time out calls by the catcher or batter.
Foul tips.
Another angle for balks calls.
Home plate umpire has foul calls between home and first/third bases.
Catcher interference.
Batter interference.

I am for the computer but ONLY IF they have the ability to correctly adjust the strike zone vertically for each batter. Jose Altuve and Aaron Judge do not have the same sized strike zones. The boxes you see on TV never change.

Post by **Ivytalk** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:27 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:
css75 wrote:
Don’t forget checked swings,

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Hit by pitch.
Foul ball calls.
Time out calls by the catcher or batter.
Foul tips.
Another angle for balks calls.
Home plate umpire has foul calls between home and first/third bases.
Catcher interference.
Batter interference.

I am for the computer but ONLY IF they have the ability to correctly adjust the strike zone vertically for each batter. Jose Altuve and Aaron Judge do not have the same sized strike zones. The boxes you see on TV never change.

You are a true pro-ump handjob!

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:29 pm

What do we do if it's not calibrated right?

Gil Dobie · Post by **Gil Dobie** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:40 pm

SuperHornet wrote:What do we do if it's not calibrated right?

Call Johnny Bench, the best of the best.

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:31 pm

Gil Dobie wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:What do we do if it's not calibrated right?
Call Johnny Bench, the best of the best.

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:11 am

I like the human error aspect in football and baseball. I didnt want replay and they have proved they failed at that, this would be no different.

If human umps were good enough for 150 years why change now, it's part of the game.

Only way I am for this is if Pete Rose programs the computers.

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Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:28 pm

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I like the human error aspect in football and baseball. I didnt want replay and they have proved they failed at that, this would be no different.

If human umps were good enough for 150 years why change now, it's part of the game.

Only way I am for this is if Pete Rose programs the computers.

Umpires - at best - are a necessary evil in any sport (period)
They are absolutely NOT part of the game - they fancy themselves judge jury and executioner
and the sooner they are completely removed form ANY sport the better

They can be used to spot the ball in the NFL and or sweep off home plate in MLB
beyond that they are worthless...

it's already been shown that the average MLB .300 hitter knows the strike zone better than the umps

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SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:48 pm

CAA Flagship wrote:

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:40 pm

Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I like the human error aspect in football and baseball. I didnt want replay and they have proved they failed at that, this would be no different.

If human umps were good enough for 150 years why change now, it's part of the game.

Only way I am for this is if Pete Rose programs the computers.

Umpires - at best - are a necessary evil in any sport (period)
They are absolutely NOT part of the game - they fancy themselves judge jury and executioner
and the sooner they are completely removed form ANY sport the better

They can be used to spot the ball in the NFL and or sweep off home plate in MLB
beyond that they are worthless...

it's already been shown that the average MLB .300 hitter knows the strike zone better than the umps

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You have more than your fair share of really stupid posts but this one might be your mona lisa

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Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:04 am

ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Umpires - at best - are a necessary evil in any sport (period)
They are absolutely NOT part of the game - they fancy themselves judge jury and executioner
and the sooner they are completely removed form ANY sport the better

They can be used to spot the ball in the NFL and or sweep off home plate in MLB
beyond that they are worthless...

it's already been shown that the average MLB .300 hitter knows the strike zone better than the umps

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You have more than your fair share of really stupid posts but this one might be your mona lisa

In 2018, umpires made 34,294 incorrect ball and strike calls. That’s 14 per game...
many in game changing scenarios

Presently MLB umpires are correct 58% of the time on bang bang plays at first base

75% correct would be shitty by any measurement but acceptably shitty
and they are a long ways away from 75%

css75 · Post by **css75** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:40 am

Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:You have more than your fair share of really stupid posts but this one might be your mona lisa

In 2018, umpires made 34,294 incorrect ball and strike calls. That’s 14 per game...
many in game changing scenarios

Presently MLB umpires are correct 58% of the time on bang bang plays at first base

75% correct would be shitty by any measurement but acceptably shitty
and they are a long ways away from 75%

About the same percentage they get right after replay.

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Chizzang · Post by **Chizzang** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:16 am

css75 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
In 2018, umpires made 34,294 incorrect ball and strike calls. That’s 14 per game...
many in game changing scenarios

Presently MLB umpires are correct 58% of the time on bang bang plays at first base

75% correct would be shitty by any measurement but acceptably shitty
and they are a long ways away from 75%
About the same percentage they get right after replay.

Ya... whatever

http://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/mlb-ump ... e-accuracy

ALPHAGRIZ1 · Post by **ALPHAGRIZ1** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:56 am

css75 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
In 2018, umpires made 34,294 incorrect ball and strike calls. That’s 14 per game...
many in game changing scenarios

Presently MLB umpires are correct 58% of the time on bang bang plays at first base

75% correct would be shitty by any measurement but acceptably shitty
and they are a long ways away from 75%
About the same percentage they get right after replay.

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Exactly

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