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This country was founded on liberalism. i dont think that word means what you think it means.
And I don’t think you understand liberalism as used by our founders...and the way libtards use it today...

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Col Hogan is of course absolutely correct. Unfortunately its kalm that has no idea what the word means or represents today. Its a disease threatening everyone.
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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
And I don’t think you understand liberalism as used by our founders...and the way libtards use it today...

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The liberal ideals of the enlightenment? That’s exactly what I was referring to.

I’m equally aware of those who self identify as liberal today (or conservative) but who support ideas that are illiberal and reduce liberty.

Take for instance those who you use made up words like “libtard” or "nazi". While they’re more than at least likely half a tard or nazi themselves, I would never deny their right to use it.
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
The liberal ideals of the enlightenment? That’s exactly what I was referring to.

I’m equally aware of those who self identify as liberal today (or conservative) but who support ideas that are illiberal and reduce liberty.

Take for instance those who you use made up words like “libtard” or "nazi". While they’re more than at least likely half a tard or nazi themselves, I would never deny their right to use it.
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I agree with that and I never use the word Nazi. Even regarding Nazis from Illinois.
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JBB wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
And I don’t think you understand liberalism as used by our founders...and the way libtards use it today...

:coffee:
Col Hogan is of course absolutely correct. Unfortunately its kalm that has no idea what the word means or represents today. Its a disease threatening everyone.
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
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kalm wrote:
JBB wrote:
Col Hogan is of course absolutely correct. Unfortunately its kalm that has no idea what the word means or represents today. Its a disease threatening everyone.
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
It saddens me that we allowed words and symbols to be co-opted. I consider myself both a liberal and a conservative.

Rather than letting hate groups on either side co-opt a word or symbol, we should take them back. Nike shouldn't have canceled the Betsy Ross sneaker because Kapernick thought it had been co-opted by racist groups. They should have released it and encouraged minorities everywhere to wear the shoe as a symbol of freedom and a sign of defiance of racist ideologies. No white supremacist group is going to keep using a symbol that is being celebrated by black and brown people.
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UNI88 wrote:
kalm wrote:
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
It saddens me that we allowed words and symbols to be co-opted. I consider myself both a liberal and a conservative.

Rather than letting hate groups on either side co-opt a word or symbol, we should take them back. Nike shouldn't have canceled the Betsy Ross sneaker because Kapernick thought it had been co-opted by racist groups. They should have released it and encouraged minorities everywhere to wear the shoe as a symbol of freedom and a sign of defiance of racist ideologies. No white supremacist group is going to keep using a symbol that is being celebrated by black and brown people.
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Who wouldn’t want to be liberal at times and conservative at others?
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kalm wrote:
JBB wrote:
Col Hogan is of course absolutely correct. Unfortunately its kalm that has no idea what the word means or represents today. Its a disease threatening everyone.
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
Just a word...I read your previous posts, so I think I know what you think of words like Nazi...I think it’s been totally misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics...

I’ve been told I’m a Nazi by at least two people active on this board...are they weak minded, or do you agree with them???

I am not a Republican, but I am a constitutional conservative...

Most liberals I know are not libtards...but there are a few on this board...active posters...and its a word that combines their political (liberal) and their outlook (retarded)...

Maybe it should be progtard...so I don’t insult liberals...
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Col Hogan wrote:
kalm wrote:
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
Just a word...I read your previous posts, so I think I know what you think of words like Nazi...I think it’s been totally misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics...

I’ve been told I’m a Nazi by at least two people active on this board...are they weak minded, or do you agree with them???

I am not a Republican, but I am a constitutional conservative...

Most liberals I know are not libtards...but there are a few on this board...active posters...and its a word that combines their political (liberal) and their outlook (retarded)...

Maybe it should be progtard...so I don’t insult liberals...
I cringe when I see Nazi thrown around unless it’s clearly satire.

You can say libtard or progtard all you’d like. I’m not a PC maven. But having two cousins with Down’s syndrome and a friend with a kid who also has it means I’m going to make fun of you for using it. For instance...since blacks have pushed back against use of the word nigger, some conservatives have satiated their need to punch down by switching their aim to a new target...the developmentally disabled. They don’t fight back as hard. :thumb:

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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Just a word...I read your previous posts, so I think I know what you think of words like Nazi...I think it’s been totally misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics...

I’ve been told I’m a Nazi by at least two people active on this board...are they weak minded, or do you agree with them???

I am not a Republican, but I am a constitutional conservative...

Most liberals I know are not libtards...but there are a few on this board...active posters...and its a word that combines their political (liberal) and their outlook (retarded)...

Maybe it should be progtard...so I don’t insult liberals...
I cringe when I see Nazi thrown around unless it’s clearly satire.

You can say libtard or progtard all you’d like. I’m not a PC maven. But having two cousins with Down’s syndrome and a friend with a kid who also has it means I’m going to make fun of you for using it. For instance...since blacks have pushed back against use of the word nigger, some conservatives have satiated their need to punch down by switching their aim to a new target...the developmentally disabled. They don’t fight back as hard. :thumb:

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I love those little Down’s Syndrome retards. Nicest people anywhere, with zero animosity for anybody.


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kalm wrote:
JBB wrote:
Col Hogan is of course absolutely correct. Unfortunately its kalm that has no idea what the word means or represents today. Its a disease threatening everyone.
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
:rofl: Your common core education is on full display. Why do you bother to talk if words mean nothing or, like college campuses, news papers, football boards and other internet platforms etc etc etc, is it only the words liberals approve of that have meaning?
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JBB wrote:
kalm wrote:
No...it’s just a word...that’s been misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics. It frightens and confuses the weak minded minded such as yourself.
:rofl: Your common core education is on full display. Why do you bother to talk if words mean nothing or, like college campuses, news papers, football boards and other internet platforms etc etc etc, is it only the words liberals approve of that have meaning?
Whoa! That would be like a MAJOR burn if 1) I supported Common Core, and 2) it hadn’t started 21 years after I graduated high school. :dunce:

And when did I say words mean nothing or that their use should be regulated? I have a huge problem with the social justice movement. It’s illiberal. That doesn’t mean you can say or misuse words however you like without being criticized. If you had better reading comprehension you’d find I said the opposite of what you just asserted. Perhaps you might benefit from a Common Core education?

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kalm wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
Just a word...I read your previous posts, so I think I know what you think of words like Nazi...I think it’s been totally misappropriated, co-opted to suit politics...

I’ve been told I’m a Nazi by at least two people active on this board...are they weak minded, or do you agree with them???

I am not a Republican, but I am a constitutional conservative...

Most liberals I know are not libtards...but there are a few on this board...active posters...and its a word that combines their political (liberal) and their outlook (retarded)...

Maybe it should be progtard...so I don’t insult liberals...
I cringe when I see Nazi thrown around unless it’s clearly satire.

You can say libtard or progtard all you’d like. I’m not a PC maven. But having two cousins with Down’s syndrome and a friend with a kid who also has it means I’m going to make fun of you for using it. For instance...since blacks have pushed back against use of the word nigger, some conservatives have satiated their need to punch down by switching their aim to a new target...the developmentally disabled. They don’t fight back as hard. :thumb:

:lol:
I have two grandkids on the Autism spectrum...not as bad as Downs...so I get what you are trying to say...but I don’t consider people with Downs or Autism retarded...
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mainejeff2 wrote:
Col Hogan wrote:
I have two grandkids on the Autism spectrum...not as bad as Downs...so I get what you are trying to say...but I don’t consider people with Downs or Autism retarded...
Is "autism" a catch-all now for any and all bad behaving children? :roll:

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No, that’s Aspergers..

Neither of my grandsons are bad-behaving at all...they have issues dealing with strange people...they have issues with changes in schedules...both are very smart, with one reading and doing math several grade levels above their age...
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kalm wrote:
UNI88 wrote:
It saddens me that we allowed words and symbols to be co-opted. I consider myself both a liberal and a conservative.

Rather than letting hate groups on either side co-opt a word or symbol, we should take them back. Nike shouldn't have canceled the Betsy Ross sneaker because Kapernick thought it had been co-opted by racist groups. They should have released it and encouraged minorities everywhere to wear the shoe as a symbol of freedom and a sign of defiance of racist ideologies. No white supremacist group is going to keep using a symbol that is being celebrated by black and brown people.
:nod:

Who wouldn’t want to be liberal at times and conservative at others?
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89Hen wrote:
kalm wrote:
:nod:

Who wouldn’t want to be liberal at times and conservative at others?
Do you want the full list of folks here? :kisswink:
Liberal can mean a lot of things such as open-minded. I would consider your changing your opinion on the death penalty liberal.
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UNI88 wrote:
89Hen wrote: Do you want the full list of folks here? :kisswink:
Liberal can mean a lot of things such as open-minded. I would consider your changing your opinion on the death penalty liberal.
Agreed. But we do have a handful of guys on both sides who are straight ballot voters so to speak.
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