Fund Your own Damn Schools

[89Hen]

FWIW, my experience with religious schools is they are far more loving of everyone than public schools. They do NOT put up with kids bullying at all. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative MJ.

I agree that the public should not fund religious schools, but like 88 I'm torn whether you should be able to use vouchers for them. Around here, the religious schools are pretty well maxed out at capacity, so are you really funding the school with public dollars or just allowing a kid that wouldn't otherwise get to attend the school of their choice a chance?

[GannonFan]

FWIW, my experience with religious schools is they are far more loving of everyone than public schools. They do NOT put up with kids bullying at all. Sorry that doesn't fit your narrative MJ.

I agree that the public should not fund religious schools, but like 88 I'm torn whether you should be able to use vouchers for them. Around here, the religious schools are pretty well maxed out at capacity, so are you really funding the school with public dollars or just allowing a kid that wouldn't otherwise get to attend the school of their choice a chance?

Kind of a broad statement there just based on personal experience, no? Religious schools where I live (PA suburbs and mostly Catholic) tend to be self-selective cliques of their own. They're not terribly diverse in terms of background, ethnicity, race, income level, faith, etc. Considering that those categories form a lot of the basis for bullying I'd say it wouldn't be terribly shocking that people aren't teasing other people for being different as those self-selected populations tend to be very uniform. Heck, around here, and I think most places, private schools aren't required to deal with kids with developmental issues or ones who have learning issues (504's). They just say tough luck and if you need that then go back to the public schools where they have such services. And if places are already at capacity (as private schools are here) why do they need more money from the public?

[89Hen]

Kind of a broad statement there just based on personal experience, no? Religious schools where I live (PA suburbs and mostly Catholic) tend to be self-selective cliques of their own. They're not terribly diverse in terms of background, ethnicity, race, income level, faith, etc. Considering that those categories form a lot of the basis for bullying I'd say it wouldn't be terribly shocking that people aren't teasing other people for being different as those self-selected populations tend to be very uniform. Heck, around here, and I think most places, private schools aren't required to deal with kids with developmental issues or ones who have learning issues (504's). They just say tough luck and if you need that then go back to the public schools where they have such services. And if places are already at capacity (as private schools are here) why do they need more money from the public?

That is why I said "FWIW my experience". Around here our Catholic schools tend to be more diverse than the other private schools. Hell, my son had a kid in his class named Jacob Goldberg who was Chinese and Catholic/Jewish.

[Baldy]

The US spends 35% more on primary education than the average OECD country, so money isn't the problem. Just hyper-radicalized dimwits indoctrinating kids and promoting events like climate strikes.

Quit being a drama queen. Nobody is opposing public schools. Just the idiots who run them.

Leave it you to get the vapors over strong, smart, independent women exercising their first amendment rights. Shame on you. Why do you hate America?

Baldy,
There were two dozen ways to say what you said without being a total dick
and you chose being a total dick... BTW: you do get points for choosing that option though



You make strong points - and I agree with them - and I almost never agree with you
The Liberal mantra look at Europe look at Europe (except don't look at the European schools)

I don't like to be a dick, but when dback starts hysterically hyperventilating because he's exposed to something outside of his little echo chamber, he needs a strong backhand.

[Baldy]

The US spends 35% more on primary education than the average OECD country, so money isn't the problem.

That's not enough information to make a conclusion though. Is that an adjusted number?
For example:
We have far more sports than any other country. The construction and maintenance of all the different facilities, coaches, uniforms, equipment, etc. has an impact (Basketball/volleyball/wrestling, baseball, softball, tennis, football/soccer/lacrosse/field hockey, track & field, swimming/diving, etc.)
Much of the cost is probably in salaries. Are the teachers in the US being paid more than the other countries? And where do those salaries compare to the rest of the workforce in all countries?

I'd be interested to see the background on that stat.

Good questions, but that depends on the laws in the state/county/city, etc., their funding requirements, and how they are reported. Not sure how it is in other states, but GA is pretty strict as far as spending on athletics versus education. Some of the bigger high schools have booster clubs with budgets that would be the envy of many small colleges.

Encompassing what you stated earilier, what about the people who send their kids to private schools, but have to pay school taxes anyway and other adults in similar situations...couples who don't have children, empty nesters, etc.

[GannonFan]

Encompassing what you stated earilier, what about the people who send their kids to private schools, but have to pay school taxes anyway and other adults in similar situations...couples who don't have children, empty nesters, etc.

It's like paying for good roads and proper stormwater management and sewers. It's a good investment to have good schools - it attracts good families. Plus educating the young in the community is a pretty good thing too, especially in the long term for the public at large.

[89Hen]

Encompassing what you stated earilier, what about the people who send their kids to private schools, but have to pay school taxes anyway and other adults in similar situations...couples who don't have children, empty nesters, etc.

It's like paying for good roads and proper stormwater management and sewers. It's a good investment to have good schools - it attracts good families. Plus educating the young in the community is a pretty good thing too, especially in the long term for the public at large.

I've paid taxes for schools and my kids didn't spend a single day in public schools. But that's my choice and have no problem with paying this.

HOWEVER, I do have a problem with all the helicopter parents that drive their kids to the public school on a perfectly nice day instead of putting them on the bus. I hate paying for the buses, getting stuck behind one and then having my roads jammed around schools because of all the SUV's doing drop off.

[GannonFan]

It's like paying for good roads and proper stormwater management and sewers. It's a good investment to have good schools - it attracts good families. Plus educating the young in the community is a pretty good thing too, especially in the long term for the public at large.

I've paid taxes for schools and my kids didn't spend a single day in public schools. But that's my choice and have no problem with paying this.

HOWEVER, I do have a problem with all the helicopter parents that drive their kids to the public school on a perfectly nice day instead of putting them on the bus. I hate paying for the buses, getting stuck behind one and then having my roads jammed around schools because of all the SUV's doing drop off.

You could of course always avoid the road that's in front of the schools. Google Maps shows the locations of schools generally. Just saying.

[89Hen]

I've paid taxes for schools and my kids didn't spend a single day in public schools. But that's my choice and have no problem with paying this.

HOWEVER, I do have a problem with all the helicopter parents that drive their kids to the public school on a perfectly nice day instead of putting them on the bus. I hate paying for the buses, getting stuck behind one and then having my roads jammed around schools because of all the SUV's doing drop off.

You could of course always avoid the road that's in front of the schools. Google Maps shows the locations of schools generally. Just saying.

Those stupid planners seem to put schools everywhere that people drive.

[UNI88]

Encompassing what you stated earilier, what about the people who send their kids to private schools, but have to pay school taxes anyway and other adults in similar situations...couples who don't have children, empty nesters, etc.

It's like paying for good roads and proper stormwater management and sewers. It's a good investment to have good schools - it attracts good families. Plus educating the young in the community is a pretty good thing too, especially in the long term for the public at large.

That's why I consider education as closer to an investment in infrastructure. It benefits the community in the short and long terms.

[kalm]

You could of course always avoid the road that's in front of the schools. Google Maps shows the locations of schools generally. Just saying.

Those stupid planners seem to put schools everywhere that people drive.

Classic 89!

[89Hen]

Those stupid planners seem to put schools everywhere that people drive.

Classic 89!

[kalm]

Classic 89!

Oh I believe you and don’t disagree.

[89Hen]

Rather hard to avoid my county public schools...

Arcola Elementary School
Ashburton Elementary School
Bannockburn Elementary School
Lucy V. Barnsley Elementary School
Beall Elementary School
Bel Pre Elementary School
Bells Mill Elementary School
Belmont Elementary School
Bethesda Elementary School
Beverly Farms Elementary School
Bradley Hills Elementary School
Broad Acres Elementary School
Brooke Grove Elementary School
Brookhaven Elementary School
Brown Station Elementary School
Burning Tree Elementary School
Burnt Mills Elementary School
Burtonsville Elementary School
Candlewood Elementary School
Cannon Road Elementary School
Carderock Springs Elementary School
Rachel Carson Elementary School
Cashell Elementary School
Cedar Grove Elementary School
Chevy Chase Elementary School
Clarksburg Elementary School
Clearspring Elementary School
Clopper Mill Elementary School
Cloverly Elementary School
Cold Spring Elementary School
College Gardens Elementary School
Cresthaven Elementary School
Capt. James Daly Elementary School
Damascus Elementary School
Darnestown Elementary School
Diamond Elementary School
Dr. Charles Drew Elementary School
DuFief Elementary School
East Silver Spring Elementary School
Fairland Elementary School
Fallsmead Elementary School
Farmland Elementary School
Fields Road Elementary School
Flower Hill Elementary School
Flower Valley Elementary School
Forest Knolls Elementary School
Fox Chapel Elementary School
Gaithersburg Elementary School
Galway Elementary School
Garrett Park Elementary School
Georgian Forest Elementary School
Germantown Elementary School
Glen Haven Elementary School
Glenallan Elementary School
Goshen Elementary School
Great Seneca Creek Elementary School
Greencastle Elementary School
Greenwood Elementary School
Harmony Hills Elementary School
Highland Elementary School
Highland View Elementary School
Jackson Road Elementary School
Jones Lane Elementary School
Kemp Mill Elementary School
Kensington Parkwood Elementary School
Lake Seneca Elementary School
Lakewood Elementary School
Laytonsville Elementary School
Little Bennett Elementary School
Luxmanor Elementary School
Thurgood Marshall Elementary School
Maryvale Elementary School
Spark M. Matsunaga Elementary School
S. Christa McAuliffe Elementary School
Ronald McNair Elementary School
Meadow Hall Elementary School
Mill Creek Towne Elementary School
Monocacy Elementary School
Montgomery Knolls Elementary School
New Hampshire Estates Elementary School
Roscoe Nix Elementary School
North Chevy Chase Elementary School
Oak View Elementary School
Oakland Terrace Elementary School
Olney Elementary School
William Tyler Page Elementary School
Pine Crest Elementary School
Piney Branch Elementary School
Poolesville Elementary School
Potomac Elementary School
Judith A. Resnik Elementary School
Dr. Sally K. Ride Elementary School
Ritchie Park Elementary School
Rock Creek Forest Elementary School
Rock Creek Valley Elementary School
Rock View Elementary School
Lois P. Rockwell Elementary School
Rolling Terrace Elementary School
Rosemary Hills Elementary School
Rosemont Elementary School
Sequoyah Elementary School
Seven Locks Elementary School
Sherwood Elementary School
Sargent Shriver Elementary School
Sligo Creek Elementary School
Somerset Elementary School
South Lake Elementary School
Stedwick Elementary School
Stone Mill Elementary School
Stonegate Elementary School
Strathmore Elementary School
Strawberry Knoll Elementary School
Summit Hall Elementary School
Takoma Park Elementary School
Travilah Elementary School
Twinbrook Elementary School
Viers Mill Elementary School
Washington Grove Elementary School
Waters Landing Elementary School
Watkins Mill Elementary School
Wayside Elementary School
Weller Road Elementary School
Westbrook Elementary School
Westover Elementary School
Wheaton Woods Elementary School
Whetstone Elementary School
Wood Acres Elementary School
Woodfield Elementary School
Woodlin Elementary School
Wyngate Elementary School
Argyle Middle School
John T. Baker Middle School
Benjamin Banneker Middle School
Briggs Chaney Middle School
Cabin John Middle School
Roberto W. Clemente
Eastern Middle School
William H. Farquhar Middle School
Robert Frost Middle School
Gaithersburg Middle School
Hallie Wells Middle School
Herbert Hoover Middle School
Francis Scott Key Middle School
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Middle School
Kingsview Middle School
Lakelands Park Middle School
Col. E. Brooke Lee Middle School
A. Mario Loiederman Middle School
Montgomery Village Middle School
Neelsville Middle School
Newport Mill Middle School
North Bethesda Middle School
Parkland Middle School
Rosa M. Parks Middle School
John Poole Middle School
Thomas W. Pyle Middle School
Redland Middle School
Ridgeview Middle School
Rocky Hill Middle School
Shady Grove Middle School
Silver Creek Middle School
Silver Spring International Middle School
Sligo Middle School
Takoma Park Middle School
Tilden Middle School
Julius West Middle School
Westland Middle School
White Oak Middle School
Earle B. Wood Middle School
Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School
Montgomery Blair High School
James Hubert Blake High School
Winston Churchill High School
Clarksburg High School
Damascus High School
Thomas Edison High School of Technology
Albert Einstein High School
Gaithersburg High School
Walter Johnson High School
John F. Kennedy High School
Col. Zadok A. Magruder High School
Richard Montgomery High School
Northwest High School
Northwood High School
Paint Branch High School
Poolesville High School
Quince Orchard High School
Rockville High School
Seneca Valley High School
Sherwood High School
Springbrook High School
Watkins Mill High School
Wheaton High School
Walt Whitman High School
Thomas S. Wootton High School

[UNI88]

Rather hard to avoid my county public schools when I'm stalking soccer moms ...

FYP

[89Hen]

Rather hard to avoid my county public schools when I'm stalking soccer moms ...

FYP

I'd be doing that at the private schools.

[CID1990]

Kind of a broad statement there just based on personal experience, no? Religious schools where I live (PA suburbs and mostly Catholic) tend to be self-selective cliques of their own. They're not terribly diverse in terms of background, ethnicity, race, income level, faith, etc. Considering that those categories form a lot of the basis for bullying I'd say it wouldn't be terribly shocking that people aren't teasing other people for being different as those self-selected populations tend to be very uniform. Heck, around here, and I think most places, private schools aren't required to deal with kids with developmental issues or ones who have learning issues (504's). They just say tough luck and if you need that then go back to the public schools where they have such services. And if places are already at capacity (as private schools are here) why do they need more money from the public?

That is why I said "FWIW my experience". Around here our Catholic schools tend to be more diverse than the other private schools. Hell, my son had a kid in his class named Jacob Goldberg who was Chinese and Catholic/Jewish.

Otherwise known to his classmates as “Slanty Jewboy”


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[CAA Flagship]

Encompassing what you stated earilier, what about the people who send their kids to private schools, but have to pay school taxes anyway and other adults in similar situations...couples who don't have children, empty nesters, etc.

My youngest son is a senior in HS, and both of my sons have never attended a public school.
That was entirely my choice and I don't have a problem paying taxes. It's a decision that our society made years ago and I can get behind it because educating our youth is important for the country as a whole.

But because it is a choice, it makes it less painful than being forced to pay into the ACA when young and healthy or paying for uninsured motorist coverage on auto insurance.

[JBB]

What, the Democrat Party?

No church based schools that promote hatred of me because I am a homosexual......and use my tax dollars to do so.

No homosexually biased courts using all kinds of tax dollars forcing everyone to give homosexuals extra ordinary privileges. What right do you have to make a business bake you a cake or you will ruin them using the courts?

[kalm]

No church based schools that promote hatred of me because I am a homosexual......and use my tax dollars to do so.

No homosexually biased courts using all kinds of tax dollars forcing everyone to give homosexuals extra ordinary privileges. What right do you have to make a business bake you a cake or you will ruin them using the courts?

I think it’s wonderful that you can buy a cake anywhere!

[Ivytalk]

No homosexually biased courts using all kinds of tax dollars forcing everyone to give homosexuals extra ordinary privileges. What right do you have to make a business bake you a cake or you will ruin them using the courts?

I think it’s wonderful that you can buy a cake anywhere!

Wonderful? It’s FABULOUS!