Greta Meme

[∞∞∞]

You should move to a country you don’t hate so much.

I don't hate America; this nation has the MOST POTENTIAL if we actually put our energy into sh*t that advances mankind and helps the average person.

While not American, Greta has this right. She understands it's one of the most noble pursuits and professions in history, and that there's a reason we listen to them when they sound alarms. Her future is at stake.

Instead though (in 21st century American nonetheless), we have idiots thinking their five-minutes of watching Youtube and ten-minutes of internet research qualify them as more "woke" than someone who has studied, researched, and written academic papers for 8+ years.

WTF is the point of educating people if society doesn't enjoy the fruits of its investment once the educated are proficient in the subject matter they learned? Hell, what's the point of a functioning society if no one is ever going to trust that others know what they're doing.

Science is peer-reviewed; when 99% of scientists agree on something, I'm f*cking listening.

[Ibanez]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

You know, I had a long post typed that basically amounts to this - You're being emotional. You don't understand the history or the facts.

Btw, your article links to Baby Boomers. We're talking about their parents. Also, that article is pretty much a Baby Boomer slapping himself on the back. Did you even READ it, or did you just google a stat, quote it and post the link?

[∞∞∞]

You know, I had a long post typed that basically amounts to this - You're being emotional. You don't understand the history or the facts.

Btw, your article links to Baby Boomers. We're talking about their parents.

Their parents lived through the industrial age. The Boomers afterwards only made it worse.

[UNI88]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

Yes the industrial age was probably the worst for CO2 but that wasn't because of individuals or their families. People who grew up during the Depression were very frugal and conservationist - they recycled more than Millennials or Xers could dream of.

If you're going to compare the US to China based on per capita output let's subtract the Chinese people who are living in 3rd world conditions and use per capita based on the number of people living a 1st World standard of living. The damage to the environment and pollution in China is incredible and I'm guessing that they influence the testing to hide the actual damage.

As far as those "f*ckers" go, I think you're confusing the Boomers with the Greatest Generation. For someone who blames old people for the world's problems you're kind of ignorant of the differences between the generations. How much electronic crap is filling our landfills because Millennials have to had to have the latest and greatest since they were children? As I've stated Millenials and Boomers have a lot in common so it's funny to see you b!tch about them.

A huge part of the reason this country has accomplished what it has is individual freedom and responsibility and you want to throw a system that has achieved generations of success for one that will provide a single generation of equality following by generations of mediocrity and decay.

[∞∞∞]

I don't blame the GG during the industrial era...they didn't understand how CO2 and pollution affected the larger world around them, and they didn't have as much political clout yet. While scientists back then were sounding alarms as well, that information didn't get to the population as efficiently.

But to say the GG didn't contribute to the environmental issues is not true; they contributed the most. They held political power for years after WWII. And they, along with the Boomers, overlapped in many of the years that were the worse for the US in terms of environmental effects. It's not like the GG only lived to the 40s and died off. They were as much part of the growth in consumerism and heavy-energy use post-WWII.

[Ibanez]

I don't blame the GG during the industrial era...they didn't understand how CO2 and pollution affected the larger world around them, and they didn't have as much political clout yet. While scientists back then were sounding alarms as well, that information didn't get to the population as efficiently.

But to say the GG didn't contribute to the environmental issues is not true; they contributed the most. They held political power for years after WWII. And they, along with the Boomers, overlapped in many of the years that were the worse for the US in terms of environmental effects. It's not like the GG only lived to the 40s and died off. They were as much part of the growth in consumerism and heavy-energy use post-WWII.

You do realize that the Greatest Generation were children/young adults on the tail end of the Industrial Age, right? We all contribute. You just think your generation is as pure as the driven snow


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[HI54UNI]

Is that a joke?

The American industrial age, into WWII and the boom afterwards, contributed to the most CO2 per capita ever seen in the history of the World for one nation (among large nations). The US still is still one of the worst per capita (even worse than China), but not nearly as bad as it ever was.

And what is this "back in my day" garbage anyways, as if they're not living today? Those same f*ckers ended up building large homes, buying huge cars, and built the consumer-empire we see today.

A nation as educated, resource-heavy, and wealthy as ours could've easily figured out how to advance green energy and other environmental issues a long time ago. We could have gone to Mars, advanced universal healthcare, been investing into mass-transportation. Instead, prior generations sucked corporate cocks in the hope wealth trickled back to them...everything else be damned, including the environment.

2% said the baby boom legacy would be consumerism and self-indulgence; 27% said changing values and ending a war. The rest, 32%, were closely split among those who chose "nothing at all," some other legacy or just weren't sure.

https://www.forbes.com/2009/07/22/baby- ... 8fdd9b4ac0

Using per capita measurement of CO2 is nothing more than a way to cover for China's increasing CO2. Per capita is irrelevant. If you truly believe that CO2 is the driver then total tons is what needs to be looked at.

[Ivytalk]

That's because you're not blind with hatred like Jeff and Trip.

I have good reason to hate you.....and Ivy.

Why? Because we call you on your BS?

[CID1990]

You should move to a country you don’t hate so much.

I don't hate America; this nation has the MOST POTENTIAL if we actually put our energy into sh*t that advances mankind and helps the average person.

While not American, Greta has this right. She understands it's one of the most noble pursuits and professions in history, and that there's a reason we listen to them when they sound alarms. Her future is at stake.

Instead though (in 21st century American nonetheless), we have idiots thinking their five-minutes of watching Youtube and ten-minutes of internet research qualify them as more "woke" than someone who has studied, researched, and written academic papers for 8+ years.

WTF is the point of educating people if society doesn't enjoy the fruits of its investment once the educated are proficient in the subject matter they learned? Hell, what's the point of a functioning society if no one is ever going to trust that others know what they're doing.

Science is peer-reviewed; when 99% of scientists agree on something, I'm f*cking listening.

That’s a lot of word salad

Why aren’t you defending their (her) demands?

(That’s a rhetorical question - we already know you support global dictatorship, command economies, and gulags for dissent)


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[HI54UNI]

I wonder what she means by this?

'Unfortunately, we probably already know the outcome. World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities but we have to make sure they cannot do that.

'We will make sure that we put them against the wall and they will have to do their job to protect our futures.'

[CID1990]

I wonder what she means by this?

'Unfortunately, we probably already know the outcome. World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities but we have to make sure they cannot do that.

'We will make sure that we put them against the wall and they will have to do their job to protect our futures.'

The commissar is in the details




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[Baldy]

I wonder what she means by this?

'Unfortunately, we probably already know the outcome. World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities but we have to make sure they cannot do that.

'We will make sure that we put them against the wall and they will have to do their job to protect our futures.'

Hmmm I wonder what the delicate little teen means...

[CID1990]

I wonder what she means by this?

'Unfortunately, we probably already know the outcome. World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities but we have to make sure they cannot do that.

'We will make sure that we put them against the wall and they will have to do their job to protect our futures.'

Hmmm I wonder what the delicate little teen means...

China’s Red Guards were generally teenagers (and off limits to criticisms according to the tut tut brigades here)

so maybe this is more appropriate:




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[CID1990]

https://townhall.com/columnists/davidha ... e-n2557934

“There is no "unassailable science" that tells us how the future looks: what technologies humans will devise, how they will adapt. One imagines a magazine such as Time, which once published pieces about now-discredited predictions of a "population bomb" and global cooling, might understand that the future is always more complicated than we imagine.”


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[Baldy]

Hmmm I wonder what the delicate little teen means...

China’s Red Guards were generally teenagers (and off limits to criticisms according to the tut tut brigades here)

so maybe this is more appropriate:




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Isn't that where Leftism always seems to end up?

Maybe she does have anger management issues after all...

[houndawg]

My yet to be emancipated daughter would not be the puppet of a neo Maoist global temper tantrum movement - at least not without a little bloodshed on whatever adult was stupid enough to try to co-opt her

I have plenty of sympathy for the little sh1t. In fact her disabilities are being exploited by her handlers -

But 90% of the “attacks” on her aren’t attacks at all - it is dissent against what she is espousing being characterized as attacks. THAT is her utility to these groups- that’s why she is the face of this movement and not some Norwegian college student soyboy.

So although she is being victimized by both her handlers as well as her opponents, I completely reject any attempts to shift the argument away by making her the focus- the Climate Strike manifesto demands need to be front and center, in full daylight

Therefore my response to anybody clutching their pearls over bad things being said about Thunberg is to dismiss them with prejudice. I’m not rewarding deflection by people whose intent is to stifle dissent by using disabled teenagers.


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I didn't say your daughter would be a puppet for a neo-Maoist.

I see plenty of dissent with her politics. That's fine and reasonable. I'm talking about those that are ignoring that and are attacking her based on her sex, age, disability, appearance and even nationality. As if all that crap matters. It's all deflection.

That's my position - go after the handlers and the topic. Otherwise, those attacking her for all those other things are no better than the liberals attacking Trump over his orange skin and fat ass. Or Melania's accent. Or Michelle Obama's weight.

They're just following Trump's lead and Trump is still on the learning curve with respect to how to deal with underage girls. Epstein used to handle that part.

[houndawg]

I don't think anybody should expect anything less of him, its what he does.

And I doubt he's happy about finding out that Ivanka was two-timing him with Chris Steele

I bet he noticed that it wasn't tight anymore.

You guys are the quintessential canaries in the coal mine

The more insulated Trump gets the angrier you guys get




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I'm not angry that Steele was boning Ivanka.

[CAA Flagship]

Epstein used to handle that part.

What ever happened to that Epstein feller?

[Baldy]

Epstein used to handle that part.

What ever happened to that Epstein feller?

I know that he didn't kill himself.

[UNI88]

I didn't say your daughter would be a puppet for a neo-Maoist.

I see plenty of dissent with her politics. That's fine and reasonable. I'm talking about those that are ignoring that and are attacking her based on her sex, age, disability, appearance and even nationality. As if all that crap matters. It's all deflection.

That's my position - go after the handlers and the topic. Otherwise, those attacking her for all those other things are no better than the liberals attacking Trump over his orange skin and fat ass. Or Melania's accent. Or Michelle Obama's weight.

They're just following Trump's lead and Trump is still on the learning curve with respect to how to deal with underage girls. Epstein used to handle that part for the Clinton's and Trump doesn't have an Epstein.

FYP


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[kalm]

Judas Priest you are myopic

Go look up the Climate Strike list of demands, JSO. I'm not going to do it for you.

She is their spokesperson. We can only assume that she at least tentatively espouses their manifesto.

Then, defend it.

JSO and the other lefties are avoiding your assignment so I did it for them ...

We Demand:

A Green New Deal

• Transform our economy to 100% clean, renewable energy by 2030 and phase out all fossil fuel extraction through a just and equitable transition, creating millions of good jobs
• A halt to all leasing and permitting for fossil fuel extraction, processing and infrastructure projects immediately

Respect of Indigenous lands and sovereignty

• Honor the treaties protecting Indigenous lands, waters, and sovereignty by the immediate halt of all construction, leasing, and permitting for resource extraction, processing and infrastructure projects affecting or on Indigenous lands
• Recognize the Rights of Nature into law to protect our sacred ecosystems and align human law with natural law to ban resource extraction in defense of our environment and people

Environmental justice.

• A transition that invests in prosperity for communities on the frontlines of poverty and pollution
• Welcoming those displaced by the cumulative effects of the climate crisis, economic inequality, violence, and lack of opportunity

Protection and restoration of biodiversity.

• Protection and restoration of 50% of the world’s lands and oceans including a halt to all deforestation by 2030

Implementation of sustainable agriculture.

• Investment in farmers and regenerative agriculture and an end to subsidies for industrial agriculture

THE US CLIMATE STRIKE DEMANDS

Good god...I didn’t realize it was this bad!

We don’t have to see through any lies and deception. The evil little bitch has laid it all out there in front of us. Give those crazy ideas a sliver of a opening and we’ll become the next Sweden for sure! Or maybe Costa Rica or god forbid...Canada! After all it’s what eventually happens to all leftist regimes.

[Ibanez]

Totally about bullying....grow up Jeff.


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[∞∞∞]

Unachievable list with the US' paltry resources, wealth, technology, and scientific knowledge.

Instead, I trust corporate America will lead us into 21st century green movements. Over time, their efforts will benefit everyone...trickle down environmentalism.

[kalm]

And all of the young people out there should consider this before lecturing people, especially the Greatest Generation, about conservation ...



My parents were greener than any of you scolds.

Yup. Those people had to go through a depression then a world war. 10+ years of scarcity and rationing will have a monumental impact on a population.

My Mom grew up on a homestead in north central Saskatchewan. No running water or electricity. The nearest town was 10 miles away and an all day trip by wagon. I always got tangerines in my Christmas stocking because they were like treasure up there the few times the general store would have some. Her teenage brother killed a moose one winter which got the family through to spring. Her mom sewed wheat sacks together for swimming suits.

She was very successful in life but despite her wealth insisted on chopping her own kindling which she’d gather from the beach and relying upon a wood burning stove for heat. Baseboard was useless waste. Made maybe 4 trips to the dump per year and recycled, burned, composted, the rest. Food scraps were thrown over the bank to feed the raccoons.

Rarely bought anything fancy or new but was greener and had a smaller carbon footprint than most of the so-called modern day environmentalists.

One of her few guilty pleasures was a tv and laptop so she could stream EWU games.

Born in 1933 so kind of between the GG and Boomers I guess.

[Baldy]

Totally about bullying....grow up Jeff.


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Get yourself an American First Lady!

Why? The last President was from Kenya.