NDSU vs. JMU National Championship Game Thread

[AZGrizFan]

NDSU TICKET REQUEST FORM

https://gobison.com/sb_output.aspx?form=87


This game has been sold-out at the box office for several months.

Right now tickets start at $122.5 at stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/ncaa-division-1 ... =price+asc

I’ve got 3 available, row 27, about the 45 yard line. If anybody is interested.

[89Hen]

Bummed I didn't get to watch either semifinal game, but looks like neither were close, as I expected.

[Col Hogan]

Please, God.

January 11, 2020. 12 noon Eastern Standard Time. Frisco, Texas, United States of America, Earth.

Giant meteor.

This is all we ask.

Amen.

Don't be so overly dramatic....

Spoiler: show

(A softball sized meteor with a stadium sized blast radius would suffice)

Yea, I’m too close for a giant meteor...

[93henfan]

Bummed I didn't get to watch either semifinal game, but looks like neither were close, as I expected.

I made a note of when I knew each game was over and turned the station. It was with 10 minutes and change left in the 2nd quarter in the NDSU game and with 12 minutes and change left in the 2nd quarter of the JMU game.

You missed two quarters and seven minutes of compelling football. I.e. not much.

[93henfan]

Don't be so overly dramatic....

Spoiler: show

(A softball sized meteor with a stadium sized blast radius would suffice)

Yea, I’m too close for a giant meteor...

We're all too close for a giant meteor. Ask the dinosaurs.

Stop taking things so literal, you jackasses.

[Silenoz]

Don't be so overly dramatic....

Spoiler: show

(A softball sized meteor with a stadium sized blast radius would suffice)

Yea, I’m too close for a giant meteor...

Your sacrifice won't be in vain

[Gil Dobie]

Yea, I’m too close for a giant meteor...

We're all too close for a giant meteor. Ask the dinosaurs.

Stop taking things so literal, you jackasses.

Might take out a signification urban population of Canada Geese.
link

[93henfan]

We're all too close for a giant meteor. Ask the dinosaurs.

Stop taking things so literal, you jackasses.

Might take out a signification urban population of Canada Geese.
link

Bonus!

[BDKJMU]

NDSU TICKET REQUEST FORM

https://gobison.com/sb_output.aspx?form=87


This game has been sold-out at the box office for several months.

Right now tickets start at $122.5 at stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/ncaa-division-1 ... =price+asc

I’ve got 3 available, row 27, about the 45 yard line. If anybody is interested.

You thought Montana might make it?

[JBB]

Just discovered 5Dimes has the game up. Not under college extra this week

They have NDSU -1.5; O/U 55.5. (GAM: NDSU -2; O/U 54)

Juice all over the place. Can’t even take NDSU straight up. Have to put down 135 to get 100.

We screwed around with their high juice bets in the playoffs with little success. We may sit this one out, depending on what happens. High juice will keep the volume down for them. They may be forced off their safe position if they want action. If not let someone else pay them. We still have nearly 2000 of theirs and would like to keep it.

[BDKJMU]

NDSU (15-0/8-0) 9-0 vs teams ranked at the time.
W Butler 57-10
W UND 38-7
W @ #18 UD 47-22
W #4 UCD 27-16
W @ #10/6 ILSU 37-3
W #10 UNI 46-14
W Missouri St 22-0
W @ #3 SDSU 23-16
W @ YSU 56-7
W WIU 57-21
W S Dakota 49-14
W @ -/#25 SIU 21-7____
W #19 Nicholls St 37-13 (2nd round playoffs)
W #13/14 ILSU 9-3 (Quarterfinals)
W #5 MT St 42-14 (Semifinals)

JMU (14-1/8-0) 8-0 vs teams ranked at the time.
L @ WVU 20-13
W Saint Francis 44-7
W Morgan St 63-12
W @ Tenn Chattanooga 37-14
W @ #24 Elon 45-10
W @ #24 Stony Brook 45-38 (OT)
W #5 Villanova 38-24
W @ William and Mary 38-10
W #16 Towson 27-10
W #23 New Hampshire 54-16
W Richmond 48-6
W @ Rhode Island 55-21__________________
W #11 Monmouth 66-21 (2nd round playoffs)
W # #6 UNI 17-0 (Quarterfinals)
W #3 Weber St 30-14 (Semifinals)

[BDKJMU]

According research team, there may be a historical factor in all this. Bison is a French word pronounced “Bee-zohn,” and our pronunciation may have its roots there, going back generations to the area’s early fur traders and explorers. “Winnipeg has a significant French influence, so it’s very possible we borrowed from them. That would also explain why hardly anyone else in the U.S. says it that way,” Barta said.

https://www.ndsu.edu/news/view/detail/36952/
Of course hardly anyone else in America pronounces it that way. Most of the rest of America don't pronounce things like faggity ass Frenchmen.

[JBB]

2016. Biggest win in JMU history?

Some JMU fans argue that point. They argue with the other 3/4 schools that have beaten the Bison in the last 10 years about the big wins place in their historical wins. They argue with Bison fans too.

If the win in Fargo wasn’t the biggest win in JMU history which win has gotten JMU the most mileage from bragging rights? After all no other fan base can brag that they (JMU) along with NDSU have combined to win the last nine FCS titles as they like to remind people.

NDSU can only repeat here. The BISON are at the top. This is a big game to be sure. Oregon is bigger but this win is necessary to bring the streak to Oregon. JMU is in the way. The 10 million dollar gold plated football team has been trying to buy this title but 10 million isn’t enough. Iowa spent 30 million, Kansas State about 20. BISON win. Oregon is at 28 million. NDSU about 5.5.

It’s almost Christmas. Merry Christmas!

[JBB]

According research team, there may be a historical factor in all this. Bison is a French word pronounced “Bee-zohn,” and our pronunciation may have its roots there, going back generations to the area’s early fur traders and explorers. “Winnipeg has a significant French influence, so it’s very possible we borrowed from them. That would also explain why hardly anyone else in the U.S. says it that way,” Barta said.

https://www.ndsu.edu/news/view/detail/36952/
Of course hardly anyone else in America pronounces it that way. Most of the rest of America don't pronounce things like faggity ass Frenchmen.

Barta really doesn’t know.

Boyd Christensen (God bless) old time voice of the Bison well before the turn of the century and the Fabulous Fargo Dome called them the BI-Son (I is long, accent on first syllable and the second). It stuck. It’s a local convention. Not in a dictionary. He was one of the greats in the booth for years. A BI-Son legend before “Shoutin Ed Schultz” (God bless).

“The BI-Son are moving from left to right on your radio dial.

Roller takes the pitch to the left side cuts up breaks a tackle, He’s in, BI-Son score!”

[CID1990]

Jesus why can’t this game be played just 2 weeks after the semis


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[Gil Dobie]

Jesus why can’t this game be played just 2 weeks after the semis


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For those that drive 8 hours, 3 straight weeks to playoff games, the break is more than welcome. Plenty of time to make plans, enjoy the holidays, and finish them off with a great football game.

[Gil Dobie]

2018 funds from university and student support NDSU $5 million, JMU $42 million.

[89Hen]

2018 funds from university and student support NDSU $5 million, JMU $42 million.

It's amazing the Bizen win a single game.

[93henfan]

2018 funds from university and student support NDSU $5 million, JMU $42 million.

This report says the total of NDSU university and support was $9M https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

I honestly don't even try to analyze college athletic budgets because there are so many different approaches to the accounting. You can really spin stats to support whatever your agenda is in many cases.

JMU really does have some wild ass student fees though (almost $39M). NDSU is $1.5M. Delaware is $0.

And of course, these numbers are the total athletic budgets. Does NDSU field as many student-athletes as JMU does?

[Gil Dobie]

2018 funds from university and student support NDSU $5 million, JMU $42 million.

This report says the total of NDSU university and support was $9M https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/

I honestly don't even try to analyze college athletic budgets because there are so many different approaches to the accounting. You can really spin stats to support whatever your agenda is in many cases.

JMU really does have some wild ass student fees though (almost $39M). NDSU is $1.5M. Delaware is $0.

And of course, these numbers are the total athletic budgets. Does NDSU field as many student-athletes as JMU does?

NDSU sponsors 14 sports, 7 men and 7 women, JMU sponsors 17, 6 men and 11 women.

[Gil Dobie]

If I remember correctly, NDSU's football budget is over $5 million and JMU's was around $9 million.

[BDKJMU]

From 2 years ago:

One thing about that 47 million+ is Virginia schools JMU's athletic budget is stuff schools in many other states don't count under their athletic dept budgets, like debt services & other infrastructure related costs, band, spirit groups, services paid by the athletic dept to the univ for various stuff, etc. Different states have different accounting rules as to what is counted under atheltic budgets vs general. Allow VA schools to use the accounting rules in some other states and about 20-25% of that 47+ million could be shift elsewhere.

That and JMU fully funds all 17 varsity sports (11 women, 6 men's), something a lot of other mid majors don't do..Part of that is Title IX and the "problem" of about 60% female student body..

https://championshipsubdivision.com/for ... d#p1161503

[BDKJMU]

Points Scored Per Game
#2 JMU 41.4 PPG
#7 NDSU 37.9 ppg

Points Yieldeded Per Game
#1 NDSU 11.8 ppg
#3 JMU 14.9 ppg_________________________________________________

Total Offense:
#6 NDSU 477.3 ypg
#9 JMU 472.5 ypg

Rushing Offense
#4 NDSU 288 ypg
#10 JMU 248.3 ypg

Passing Offense
#56 JMU #56 224.1 ypg
#90 NDSU 189.3 ypg_____________________________________________

Total Defense
#1 JMU 264.7 ypg
#2 NDSU 269.9 ypg

Rushing Defense:
#1 JMU 61.1 ypg
#30 NDSU 135.6 ypg

Passing Defense
#1 NDSU 134.3 ypg
#38 JMU 203.6 ypg ______________________________________________

FG:
JMU 25 for 31, 80.6%
NDSU 13 for 19, 68%

Kick Returns
#2 JMU 25.0 ypr/1 TD.
#8 NDSU 23.9 ypr/1 TD

Kick Coverage:
#51 JMU 19.35 ypr/2 return TDs given up.
#53 NDSU 19.46 ypr/0 return TDs given up.

Punt Returns
#16 JMU 12.74 ypr/1 TD
#21 NDSU 11.67 ypr/0 TDs

Punt coverage:
#25 JMU 5.67 ypr/0 return TDs given up
#28 NDSU 5.75 yppr/0 return TDs given up

Net Punting
#45 JMU 36.22 ypp
#49 NDSU 36.08 ypp

Blocked Kicks/Punts
#1 JMU (tied) 9
#107? NDSU (not listed among the 106 schools with at least 1, so must have zero).

Blocked Kicks/Punts Allowed
#17 JMU (tied): 1
#44 NDSU (tied) :2
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs

[JohnStOnge]

I just used an on line random sequence generator. Asked it to randomly put 1 and 2 in order with 1 being NDSU and 2 being JMU. Sequence came out 2, 1 so JMU is picked.

I look at it as very close to a 50:50 proposition.

[BDKJMU]

It will be interesting to see how this young Bison team, with a first year coach, does against this experienced JMU team. Should be an interesting game. Might just come down to turnovers. Looks like that is what happened with Stony Brook taking JMU to OT.

NDSU isn‘t that young. According to the most recent NDSU & JMU game notes, of the 22 listed starters (excluding special teams):
NDSU 8 seniors/7 juniors.
JMU 12 seniors/10 juniors.

Expand it to the entire 2 deep (excluding special teams):
NDSU: 13 seniors/12 juniors
JMU: 15 seniors/19 juniors

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... 191216.pdf
https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... _Weber.pdf

JMU is more experienced than NDSU, and the avg team, with all their starters, and over 3/4 of their 46 listed on the (non special teams) 2 deep, as juniors and seniors.
But about 2/3 of NDSU‘s starters, and almost 60% of their 44 listed on their deep, are juniors & seniors. That‘s probably around average in terms of experience. Not young.