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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:40 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:04 pm

100 yrs of womens right to vote. They did it last year as well.
Wrong. It was in support of the #metoo movement. Loved that Sienema basically said "fuck you" to the whole triggered lot of 'em and wore a bright blue dress. I'm liking her more and more.
I read it was for Suffrage. I guess the media outlets need to collude on the narrative.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:02 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:57 pm

Why don’t you register as the Democrat that you deep-down know you are, and run against Lindsay Graham?
You mad bro? You know it's true.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:22 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:04 pm I think Pelosi ripping the paper was great. She matched Trumps level of childish behavior and the GOP is pearl clutching over it.

Ripping up a paper at the SOTU - bad

Offending Vets, handicapped people and asking Russia and China to interfere in an election - good
And what did Trump do during the SOTU that was childish behavior?
I didn't watch. I'm sure he did something. But that isn't what I said. Trump acts like a child. He engages in name calling. C'mon. You wouldn't put up with that crap from your children or at work. But the guy leading the country...sure. No problem. Act like a petulant child.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:04 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:02 pm

You mad bro? You know it's true.
Sure, Raul, sure. Keep telling yourself you’re not the second coming of Fritz Hollings. :coffee:
Trump has said as much, Ivy. He can kill a man and nobody would do a thing.

Try to be objective counselor, I took you for someone that could see through the bullshit. Pelosi is being a petulant cuss just like Trump. Now the GOP suddenly has a problem with it. Give me a break. Where were they when Joe Wilson was calling out Obama during the SOTU? They were nowhere.

And Fritz was a good man. We are much more than our political affiliations.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:22 pm

And what did Trump do during the SOTU that was childish behavior?
I didn't watch. I'm sure he did something. But that isn't what I said. Trump acts like a child. He engages in name calling. C'mon. You wouldn't put up with that crap from your children or at work. But the guy leading the country...sure. No problem. Act like a petulant child.
Yes, most sane folks would agree Trump acts like a child a lot.

Last night wasn't one of those times. Possibly the best speech he's ever given (realizing that bar may be fairly low, and this coming from someone who can hardly STAND to hear him speak)….like most SOTU's, long on bragging, short on facts....one thing he didn't do much of was lay out what his next four years might look like. Was a lot of looking backwards, taking credit for how great things are economically, and patting himself on the back at the expense of the Dems, who sat there basically looking like they hate it when people are working, wages are up, and soldiers are coming home. They also came across as hating babies, black people and specifically black children.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:04 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:22 pm

And what did Trump do during the SOTU that was childish behavior?
I didn't watch. I'm sure he did something. But that isn't what I said. Trump acts like a child. He engages in name calling. C'mon. You wouldn't put up with that crap from your children or at work. But the guy leading the country...sure. No problem. Act like a petulant child.
You mean that isn’t what you meant (same time comparison). And no, he really didn’t do anything childish. Stuck to the teleprompter. Neither did the conks as a whole that I saw. All the childish behavior last night (sitting on good news, even the the feel good stories like the little girl, paper ripping, shout outs, women in white gang like hand gestures, walkouts) were on the part of the donks. Own goal behavior.
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We should back off the Woodrow Wilson approach and have the POTUS just give a written annual report, like public companies do. Elections are basically large-scale proxy contests, anyway. Let people see it online or in print, and let ‘em vote the CEO in or out.
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Bottom line is Trump sets a very low bar for childish behavior yet somehow the Dems are doing their damnedest to reach it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:00 pm What is it with the donk women wearing white? Some sort of TDS thing?
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:26 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:04 pm

I didn't watch. I'm sure he did something. But that isn't what I said. Trump acts like a child. He engages in name calling. C'mon. You wouldn't put up with that crap from your children or at work. But the guy leading the country...sure. No problem. Act like a petulant child.
You mean that isn’t what you meant (same time comparison). And no, he really didn’t do anything childish. Stuck to the teleprompter. Neither did the conks as a whole that I saw. All the childish behavior last night (sitting on good news, even the the feel good stories like the little girl, paper ripping, shout outs, women in white gang like hand gestures, walkouts) were on the part of the donks. Own goal behavior.
Correct. I didn't watch last night so all I'm going off are comments from a CS text exchange and a couple of news articles I read. I did read a CNN article separating fact from fiction and was happy to see that just about everything was mostly true. Only a couple things were flat out false or true to a certain extent (or if you cherry pick the data. ). That sort of stuff is to be expected.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:29 pm We should back off the Woodrow Wilson approach and have the POTUS just give a written annual report, like public companies do. Elections are basically large-scale proxy contests, anyway. Let people see it online or in print, and let ‘em vote the CEO in or out.
:lol: Have Trump buy them the Wall Street Journal and he's fulfilled his duty.

Personally, I'd love to have something like Prime Ministers Questions.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:53 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:26 pm
You mean that isn’t what you meant (same time comparison). And no, he really didn’t do anything childish. Stuck to the teleprompter. Neither did the conks as a whole that I saw. All the childish behavior last night (sitting on good news, even the the feel good stories like the little girl, paper ripping, shout outs, women in white gang like hand gestures, walkouts) were on the part of the donks. Own goal behavior.
Correct. I didn't watch last night so all I'm going off are comments from a CS text exchange and a couple of news articles I read. I did read a CNN article separating fact from fiction and was happy to see that just about everything was mostly true. Only a couple things were flat out false or true to a certain extent (or if you cherry pick the data. ). That sort of stuff is to be expected.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:56 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:53 pm

Correct. I didn't watch last night so all I'm going off are comments from a CS text exchange and a couple of news articles I read. I did read a CNN article separating fact from fiction and was happy to see that just about everything was mostly true. Only a couple things were flat out false or true to a certain extent (or if you cherry pick the data. ). That sort of stuff is to be expected.
And we can count on JSO to “cherry pick the data.”
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:55 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:29 pm We should back off the Woodrow Wilson approach and have the POTUS just give a written annual report, like public companies do. Elections are basically large-scale proxy contests, anyway. Let people see it online or in print, and let ‘em vote the CEO in or out.
:lol: Have Trump buy them the Wall Street Journal and he's fulfilled his duty.

Personally, I'd love to have something like Prime Ministers Questions.
Welp, nothing in Article II, Section 3, requires that the information be given in the form of a speech. And it doesn’t have to be annual. I like the public company model: short quarterly reports, an annual report, and the equivalent of an “8-K” for special events. Your idea of “question time” is intriguing, but nobody can do that like the Brits.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:02 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:55 pm

:lol: Have Trump buy them the Wall Street Journal and he's fulfilled his duty.

Personally, I'd love to have something like Prime Ministers Questions.
Welp, nothing in Article II, Section 3, requires that the information be given in the form of a speech. And it doesn’t have to be annual. I like the public company model: short quarterly reports, an annual report, and the equivalent of an “8-K” for special events. Your idea of “question time” is intriguing, but nobody can do that like the Brits.
That's right. He could send a post it that says, " We're good." and his duty is fulfilled.
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Pwns wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 am Giving the PMoF to Rush was 'leet-level trolling.

I love how some are acting like an award that goes out to Hollywood celebrity activists and famous athletes is cheapened by giving it to Rush.

This plus Pelosi tearing up Trump's speech and Iowa fiasco have made a Senate trial of a sitting president third-page news. What a train wreck.
Yup. There is a laundry list of athletes, actors, artists, etc that have gotten one of these. Hell, Bill Cosby has one.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:40 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:04 pm

100 yrs of womens right to vote. They did it last year as well.
Wrong. It was in support of the #metoo movement. Loved that Sienema basically said "fuck you" to the whole triggered lot of 'em and wore a bright blue dress. I'm liking her more and more.
Meh, she's just playing the game too, and smartly so. She'll vote lock-step with the leftists on almost everything. Bank it.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:40 pm
Pwns wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:29 am Giving the PMoF to Rush was 'leet-level trolling.

I love how some are acting like an award that goes out to Hollywood celebrity activists and famous athletes is cheapened by giving it to Rush.

This plus Pelosi tearing up Trump's speech and Iowa fiasco have made a Senate trial of a sitting president third-page news. What a train wreck.
Yup. There is a laundry list of athletes, actors, artists, etc that have gotten one of these. Hell, Bill Cosby has one.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:45 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:40 pm

Yup. There is a laundry list of athletes, actors, artists, etc that have gotten one of these. Hell, Bill Cosby has one.
Rush is on my 2021 Death List.
Well he's got stage 4 lung cancer so it's not looking good for him.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:45 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:45 pm
Rush is on my 2021 Death List.
Well he's got stage 4 lung cancer so it's not looking good for him.
I know. I watched Dad go through Stage 4 lung cancer. He's a got a shitty road ahead of him.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:42 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:40 pm

Wrong. It was in support of the #metoo movement. Loved that Sienema basically said "fuck you" to the whole triggered lot of 'em and wore a bright blue dress. I'm liking her more and more.
Meh, she's just playing the game too, and smartly so. She'll vote lock-step with the leftists on almost everything. Bank it.
She sent out a nice message to Rush Limbaugh today. :nod: :nod:

She's not a "follower". It's why she's despised by the AZ DNC and probably won't get reelected.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:48 pm
SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:42 pm

Meh, she's just playing the game too, and smartly so. She'll vote lock-step with the leftists on almost everything. Bank it.
She sent out a nice message to Rush Limbaugh today. :nod: :nod:

She's not a "follower". It's why she's despised by the AZ DNC and probably won't get reelected.
Looks like you're buying it too so it must be working. A peek at her voting record is all you really need to know about what she will actually do in the Senate.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:50 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:48 pm

She sent out a nice message to Rush Limbaugh today. :nod: :nod:

She's not a "follower". It's why she's despised by the AZ DNC and probably won't get reelected.
Looks like you're buying it too so it must be working. A peek at her voting record is all you really need to know about what she will actually do in the Senate.
Won't matter come next election. :coffee: :coffee:
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:45 pm Rush is on my 2021 Death List.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:40 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:04 pm

100 yrs of womens right to vote. They did it last year as well.
Wrong. It was in support of the #metoo movement. Loved that Sienema basically said "fuck you" to the whole triggered lot of 'em and wore a bright blue dress. I'm liking her more and more.
I think that might be just a Rep thing. Carmelo Harris wasn't wearing white last night.
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