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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:21 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:09 am

Exactly what I expected. :clap:
You asked if identity politics still existed. You may as well have asked if water is wet.
I think you have missed the point. You brought up Bloomberg's' religion. You said, " a white male Jew to boot" Why is that important to you? And don't say it isn't. If it weren't you wouldn't have mentioned it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:21 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:09 am

Exactly what I expected. :clap:
You asked if identity politics still existed. You may as well have asked if water is wet.
No, that was Ibanez and it’s a different point than what we were discussing.

You said it would be a factor a large portion of the electorate both right and left.

I said I don’t know a single person it would be a factor for.

You called b.s. specifically on that.
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:29 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:21 pm
You asked if identity politics still existed. You may as well have asked if water is wet.
I think you have missed the point. You brought up Bloomberg's' religion. You said, " a white male Jew to boot" Why is that important to you? And don't say it isn't. If it weren't you wouldn't have mentioned it.
It isn't important to me. But its a factor with the electorate. Just like other candidate factors that have been brought up- age, sex, race, orientation. They're all factors in the election.
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kalm wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:39 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:21 pm
You asked if identity politics still existed. You may as well have asked if water is wet.
No, that was Ibanez and it’s a different point than what we were discussing.

You said it would be a factor a large portion of the electorate both right and left.

I said I don’t know a single person it would be a factor for.

You called b.s. specifically on that.
No. I said
A large portion of the electorate. On the right and left.
You said
Seriously? I don’t know one single person who it would have an effect on.

It’s really still a thing?
I was clearly referring to identity politics for large portion of the electorate.
You asked if it (identity politics) was still a thing. I called BS specifically on that.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:48 pm
kalm wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:39 pm

No, that was Ibanez and it’s a different point than what we were discussing.

You said it would be a factor a large portion of the electorate both right and left.

I said I don’t know a single person it would be a factor for.

You called b.s. specifically on that.
No. I said
A large portion of the electorate. On the right and left.
You said
Seriously? I don’t know one single person who it would have an effect on.

It’s really still a thing?
I was clearly referring to identity politics for large portion of the electorate.
You asked if it (identity politics) was still a thing. I called BS specifically on that.
We were talking about being Jewish. I never said identity politics as a whole nor intended to.

JFC....just cut your losses here.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:40 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:29 pm

I think you have missed the point. You brought up Bloomberg's' religion. You said, " a white male Jew to boot" Why is that important to you? And don't say it isn't. If it weren't you wouldn't have mentioned it.
It isn't important to me. But its a factor with the electorate. Just like other candidate factors that have been brought up- age, sex, race, orientation. They're all factors in the election.
Ok. But you brought it up when you could've have not written, " white male Jew to boot." That comment suggested that it meant something to you.
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If Biden doesn’t make a younger, more progressive VP pick, this thing won’t be close.
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kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:56 am If Biden doesn’t make a younger, more progressive VP pick, this thing won’t be close.
Troll of the Year award! :rofl: :rofl:

Biden could pick any Democrat with a pulse and beat Trump.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:44 am
kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:56 am If Biden doesn’t make a younger, more progressive VP pick, this thing won’t be close.
Troll of the Year award! :rofl: :rofl:

Biden could pick any Democrat with a pulse and beat Trump.
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kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:53 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:44 am

Troll of the Year award! :rofl: :rofl:

Biden could pick any Democrat with a pulse and beat Trump.
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One good troll deserves another. :mrgreen:

He’ll pick a younger woman of color. But not Caramel Harris.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:55 am
kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:53 am

:shock:
One good troll deserves another. :mrgreen:

He’ll pick a younger woman of color. But not Caramel Harris.
Does he pick that woman from Georgia who lost the gubernatorial race last time?
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:07 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:55 am

One good troll deserves another. :mrgreen:

He’ll pick a younger woman of color. But not Caramel Harris.
Does he pick that woman from Georgia who lost the gubernatorial race last time?
That’s my guess, although she has a bigger gap tooth than Mayor Pete.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:07 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:55 am

One good troll deserves another. :mrgreen:

He’ll pick a younger woman of color. But not Caramel Harris.
Does he pick that woman from Georgia who lost the gubernatorial race last time?
God I hope not. Abrams shouldn't be allowed near any government office unless she's a customer.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:07 am

Does he pick that woman from Georgia who lost the gubernatorial race last time?
God I hope not. Abrams shouldn't be allowed near any government office unless she's a customer.
And with Joe's age and declining health, she'd be even closer than a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:07 am

Does he pick that woman from Georgia who lost the gubernatorial race last time?
God I hope not. Abrams shouldn't be allowed near any government office unless she's a customer.
That’s cold! :rofl:

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Here's just me thinking out loud:

Biden has all the negro votes he'll ever need. He's a negro magnet.

He also doesn't necessarily need to pick a woman, because Trump will already be all the motivation that angry suburban liberal women need to turn out in November.

What Biden does need is youth and a dash of progressivism to get the kiddies like Trip to get excited.

We all know that Buttigieg is negro kryptonite because he smokes pole.

That leaves who I think would be a smart choice: Andrew Yang.

The problem is, Biden needs to flip PA and MI outright and put OH and GA back in play, and I'm not sure a chinaman helps him there.

So that leaves Corey Booker. He's a nice reverse 2008 ticket facsimile.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:40 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 am
God I hope not. Abrams shouldn't be allowed near any government office unless she's a customer.
And with Joe's age and declining health, she'd be even closer than a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.
I know. Joe has the black vote. He doesn't need to pander anymore.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:16 am Here's just me thinking out loud:

Biden has all the negro votes he'll ever need. He's a negro magnet.

He also doesn't necessarily need to pick a woman, because Trump will already be all the motivation that angry suburban liberal women need to turn out in November.

What Biden does need is youth and a dash of progressivism to get the kiddies like Trip to get excited.

We all know that Buttigieg is negro kryptonite because he smokes pole.

That leaves who I think would be a smart choice: Andrew Yang.

The problem is, Biden needs to flip PA and MI outright and put OH and GA back in play, and I'm not sure a chinaman helps him there.

So that leaves Corey Booker. He's a nice reverse 2008 ticket facsimile.
I agree with this. Corey Booker would almost seal it for him.


Some exit polling info I heard last night is that college educated white women are coming out in droves to vote for Biden. :coffee:
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Nah, Corey Booker could actually cause him to lose PA. It's that New Jersey politician vibe, it doesn't play well here in PA. Biden's already on tenuous enough ground here in PA - sure, he was born in Scranton but no one outside of Dunder-Mifflin really considers him a native son. He'll be in a fight with Trump for PA, I just see Booker as being a negative weight in what would be a close race otherwise. Can't speak for Michigan, it could work there. And I think GA is in play regardless of who Biden picks, Ohio not so much.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:16 am Here's just me thinking out loud:

Biden has all the negro votes he'll ever need. He's a negro magnet.

He also doesn't necessarily need to pick a woman, because Trump will already be all the motivation that angry suburban liberal women need to turn out in November.

What Biden does need is youth and a dash of progressivism to get the kiddies like Trip to get excited.

We all know that Buttigieg is negro kryptonite because he smokes pole.

That leaves who I think would be a smart choice: Andrew Yang.

The problem is, Biden needs to flip PA and MI outright and put OH and GA back in play, and I'm not sure a chinaman helps him there.

So that leaves Corey Booker. He's a nice reverse 2008 ticket facsimile.
Good analysis except Bookers Wall Street ties hurt him with progressives.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:22 am Nah, Corey Booker could actually cause him to lose PA. It's that New Jersey politician vibe, it doesn't play well here in PA. Biden's already on tenuous enough ground here in PA - sure, he was born in Scranton but no one outside of Dunder-Mifflin really considers him a native son. He'll be in a fight with Trump for PA, I just see Booker as being a negative weight in what would be a close race otherwise. Can't speak for Michigan, it could work there. And I think GA is in play regardless of who Biden picks, Ohio not so much.
I mean, you got the second mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man!
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kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:27 am
93henfan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:16 am Here's just me thinking out loud:

Biden has all the negro votes he'll ever need. He's a negro magnet.

He also doesn't necessarily need to pick a woman, because Trump will already be all the motivation that angry suburban liberal women need to turn out in November.

What Biden does need is youth and a dash of progressivism to get the kiddies like Trip to get excited.

We all know that Buttigieg is negro kryptonite because he smokes pole.

That leaves who I think would be a smart choice: Andrew Yang.

The problem is, Biden needs to flip PA and MI outright and put OH and GA back in play, and I'm not sure a chinaman helps him there.

So that leaves Corey Booker. He's a nice reverse 2008 ticket facsimile.
Good analysis except Bookers Wall Street ties hurt him with progressives.
And that matters how? Biden hurts Biden with progressives and yet here we are, looking at the odds of a Biden nomination looking better than it did yesterday. Progressives are like some elusive mythical animal when elections come around - just can't seem to locate them.
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93henfan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:29 am
GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:22 am Nah, Corey Booker could actually cause him to lose PA. It's that New Jersey politician vibe, it doesn't play well here in PA. Biden's already on tenuous enough ground here in PA - sure, he was born in Scranton but no one outside of Dunder-Mifflin really considers him a native son. He'll be in a fight with Trump for PA, I just see Booker as being a negative weight in what would be a close race otherwise. Can't speak for Michigan, it could work there. And I think GA is in play regardless of who Biden picks, Ohio not so much.
I mean, you got the second mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man!
As long as Obama blesses it with his approval then yes, it could work. I still think it's a negative in PA, but you could get MI and GA out of it. Would still need one more state to flip, based on how 2016 shook out, to win, but that certainly makes it razor close.
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GannonFan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:32 am
kalm wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:27 am

Good analysis except Bookers Wall Street ties hurt him with progressives.
And that matters how? Biden hurts Biden with progressives and yet here we are, looking at the odds of a Biden nomination looking better than it did yesterday. Progressives are like some elusive mythical animal when elections come around - just can't seem to locate them.
Well there’s some who still want to blame Ralph Nader for Bush and blame Trump on..............Jill Stein voters. :)
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93henfan wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:16 am Here's just me thinking out loud:

Biden has all the negro votes he'll ever need. He's a negro magnet.

He also doesn't necessarily need to pick a woman, because Trump will already be all the motivation that angry suburban liberal women need to turn out in November.

What Biden does need is youth and a dash of progressivism to get the kiddies like Trip to get excited.

We all know that Buttigieg is negro kryptonite because he smokes pole.

That leaves who I think would be a smart choice: Andrew Yang.

The problem is, Biden needs to flip PA and MI outright and put OH and GA back in play, and I'm not sure a chinaman helps him there.

So that leaves Corey Booker. He's a nice reverse 2008 ticket facsimile.
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