Officer says he'll 'never apologize'...

[Appaholic]

Typical Conk ****.

Try and get T and Z to admit Bush was a complete fvck for a president. Same thing. They're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them.

Neither Bush nor Clinton were complete failures as president. Nor was either a complete success. Each had successes and failures, good points and bad points.

It's mostly the limousine liberals, not the conks, who think they're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them, but plenty of those in power fit the description.

That was the beauty of our wonderful Constitution, to provide checks and balances on the power of any one faction and thus reduce the risks of absolute power. Alas, the donks are determined to destroy it.

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

[Col Hogan]

Neither Bush nor Clinton were complete failures as president. Nor was either a complete success. Each had successes and failures, good points and bad points.

It's mostly the limousine liberals, not the conks, who think they're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them, but plenty of those in power fit the description.

That was the beauty of our wonderful Constitution, to provide checks and balances on the power of any one faction and thus reduce the risks of absolute power. Alas, the donks are determined to destroy it.

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Amen....presents from the previous administration...ram-rodded through Congress...and sustained by the present administration...

Where is the "Change We Can Believe In" on this??????

[Appaholic]

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Amen....presents from the previous administration...ram-rodded through Congress...and sustained by the present administration...

Where is the "Change We Can Believe In" on this??????

No doubt.....if it was so repulsive to Dems (like DADT), why haven't they been eliminated?

TTBF in 5...4...3....2....

[native]

Neither Bush nor Clinton were complete failures as president. Nor was either a complete success. Each had successes and failures, good points and bad points.

It's mostly the limousine liberals, not the conks, who think they're always right and the normal rules of society don't apply to them, but plenty of those in power fit the description.

That was the beauty of our wonderful Constitution, to provide checks and balances on the power of any one faction and thus reduce the risks of absolute power. Alas, the donks are determined to destroy it.

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

All of what you say is true but under these circumstances he was answering a reported burglarly call. He can't just walk away and say "oh, okay then I'll see you later." He did nothing wrong here. Can you imagine if he just walks away from this? He had every right to ask for ID that showed the man's proof of residence which the ID he provided did not do. The cop shouldn't apologize for answering a burglarly call and following the proper procedure just because the black guy took offense to him doing his job.

Don't disagree. But he was placed in cuffs after showing the ID I think....shure, Gates is a dumba$$ for delaying on producing the ID. And I feel secure stating that Gates was belligerent while showing the ID. But once produced, easy to determine that there was not a break-in, just leave....surely, being a cop in the Boston area, this is not the first time he's dealt with an obnoxious, self-important a$$hole....

From what I understand the guy gave the cops his Harvard ID which didn't show proof of residence and wouldn't produce other ID and continued to be an asshole so he cut his chances of ending the deal amicably down to zero. The douche asked for trouble, he got it, and wants to make it seem like a racial issue now. I would hate to see Gates not be treated equally and get special breaks/treatment on the issue because he's a black guy.

[Appaholic]

Don't disagree. But he was placed in cuffs after showing the ID I think....shure, Gates is a dumba$$ for delaying on producing the ID. And I feel secure stating that Gates was belligerent while showing the ID. But once produced, easy to determine that there was not a break-in, just leave....surely, being a cop in the Boston area, this is not the first time he's dealt with an obnoxious, self-important a$$hole....

From what I understand the guy gave the cops his Harvard ID which didn't show proof of residence and wouldn't produce other ID and continued to be an ******* so he cut his chances of ending the deal amicably down to zero. The douche asked for trouble, he got it, and wants to make it seem like a racial issue now. I would hate to see Gates not be treated equally and get special breaks/treatment on the issue because he's a black guy.

Well played young man....

[Gil Dobie]

Haven't heard from the black officer at the scene


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[dbackjon]

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

Conks are not above tampering with the 1st - book burnings, restricting views on subjects they don't like. Campaign Finance was bi-partisan (McCain-Feingold)

And again, the Conks try to impose Federal views on things THEY want or don't like as well...

[Appaholic]

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

Conks have:

The First Amendment (Free Speech zones & Right To Privacy)
The Fourth Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders & subverted in the pursuit of terror & drugs)
The Ninth Amendment (& Tenth - both parties share guilt)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

[wideright82]

Haven't heard from the black officer at the scene


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Black people don't trust black people any more than white. IN FACT, my black friends were more "racist" towards blacks than my white friends.

[wkuhillhound]

Haven't heard from the black officer at the scene


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Black people don't trust black people any more than white. IN FACT, my black friends were more "racist" towards blacks than my white friends.

You must have associated with the "upper" crust black folks. That statement is hard to believe from my POV. It is absolutely the complete opposite in my case. Have since dropped "them" like a bad habit.

[NorthernCOU]

Na what's idiotic is that you DON'T think cops racial profile, thats an almost border line retarded thought.

Hint: Most people have no problem with cops racial profiling. And this was NOT a case of that. You're making an ass of yourself here....

How would you know? Did you grow up a minority?

I agree racial profiling might not have been the case here, but to say SOME cops DON'T racial profile is beyond stupid.

Honestly who wouldn't have gone ballistic after being accused of breaking into their OWN home. Whether white, black, brown, or blue. I think both sides were little outta hand here.

As far a Obama saying something bout it, I agree he probably shouldn't have, but the catch is if he didn't he would've had the black community mad at him. I don't mean every single black person. So he was damn if did or if he didn't.

As for making myself look like an ass here, honestly this is a message board, I doubt I'm gonna lose sleep if my E-cred goes down the tubes.

Lastly my faggot comment was a little harsh, I just like to stir up things, my bad if I hurt your feelings.

[wideright82]

Black people don't trust black people any more than white. IN FACT, my black friends were more "racist" towards blacks than my white friends.

You must have associated with the "upper" crust black folks. That statement is hard to believe from my POV. It is absolutely the complete opposite in my case. Have since dropped "them" like a bad habit.

I don't know what "upper" crust is, but if that means they were somehow not as "black" then you should probably watch that episode of the Fresh Prince again.


Anyway, that guy pounding his fists on the ground meant it was a joke The black people I know only hate Hatians and Ricans

[Grizalltheway]

Native....you were doing so well until the last two sentences....wire-tapping, DHS, Patriot Act....donks don't have the market cornered on attempting to circumvent to the Constitution....

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

Ain't it funny how conks love to completely ignore the "well-regulated" part of that one?

[wkuhillhound]

You must have associated with the "upper" crust black folks. That statement is hard to believe from my POV. It is absolutely the complete opposite in my case. Have since dropped "them" like a bad habit.

I don't know what "upper" crust is, but if that means they were somehow not as "black" then you should probably watch that episode of the Fresh Prince again.


Anyway, that guy pounding his fists on the ground meant it was a joke The black people I know only hate Hatians and Ricans

Never heard of the six figure or more people as "upper crust"???? Money has nothing to do with not as "black". It's all about the attitude and not becoming the stereotype. I am certainly not the stereotype and very proud of that fact. Off topic: I really need to leave Kentucky, then I can find out what financial stability really is? That is the only way that success will happen for me. Losing this weight will certainly help and not give employers a list of reasons for me being a risk.

[native]

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

Ain't it funny how conks love to completely ignore the "well-regulated" part of that one?

Though related, there are two separate and distinct parts to the Second Amendment, one regarding a "well regulated militia" and another regarding the right of the people to bear arms. It is the militia that needs regulating, not the people.

The Second Amendment went through several iterations before beng passed in its final version by the Congress and sent to the states for ratification: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

None of the iterations espoused a need to regulate the people. All versions stated the thr rights of the people "shall not be infringed."

[wkuhillhound]

Your point is well taken! Both conks and donks are equal opportunity destroyers on civil rights. But the Consitution is much more than the fourth amendment, and the fourth amendment alone will not sustain liberty, prosperity, or a civil society.

The donks, and NOT the conks, are responsible for destroying the structural safeguards to liberty and prosperity including but not limited to:
The First Amendment (Fairness Doctrine and campaign "reform" attacks on free speech)
The Second Amendment (an absolute right guaranteed by the founders)
The Tenth Amendment (States' rights)
Activist federal court nomineess willing to change the original intent from the bench

Ain't it funny how conks love to completely ignore the "well-regulated" part of that one?

They are always limits to ANY kind of freedom, especially when it comes to guns. Personally, I'll stay from guns at all costs. I'm not risking it, bullet holes are NOT badges of honor.

[wideright82]

I don't know what "upper" crust is, but if that means they were somehow not as "black" then you should probably watch that episode of the Fresh Prince again.


Anyway, that guy pounding his fists on the ground meant it was a joke The black people I know only hate Hatians and Ricans

Never heard of the six figure or more people as "upper crust"???? Money has nothing to do with not as "black". It's all about the attitude and not becoming the stereotype. I am certainly not the stereotype and very proud of that fact. Off topic: I really need to leave Kentucky, then I can find out what financial stability really is? That is the only way that success will happen for me. Losing this weight will certainly help and not give employers a list of reasons for me being a risk.

Nah I just wasn't thinking, and it gave me a great opportunity to throw out a Fresh Prince line

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Ain't it funny how conks love to completely ignore the "well-regulated" part of that one?

They are always limits to ANY kind of freedom, especially when it comes to guns. Personally, I'll stay from guns at all costs. I'm not risking it, bullet holes are NOT badges of honor.

If you survive em' they are...chicks dig scars and men know that you ain't gonna go down easily.

[BlueHen86]

Hint: Most people have no problem with cops racial profiling. And this was NOT a case of that. You're making an ass of yourself here....

How would you know? Did you grow up a minority?

I agree racial profiling might not have been the case here, but to say SOME cops DON'T racial profile is beyond stupid.

Honestly who wouldn't have gone ballistic after being accused of breaking into their OWN home. Whether white, black, brown, or blue. I think both sides were little outta hand here.

As far a Obama saying something bout it, I agree he probably shouldn't have, but the catch is if he didn't he would've had the black community mad at him. I don't mean every single black person. So he was damn if did or if he didn't.

As for making myself look like an ass here, honestly this is a message board, I doubt I'm gonna lose sleep if my E-cred goes down the tubes.

Lastly my faggot comment was a little harsh, I just like to stir up things, my bad if I hurt your feelings.

People who make asses out of themselves are what make message boards more interesting. Keep up the good work.

[wkuhillhound]

They are always limits to ANY kind of freedom, especially when it comes to guns. Personally, I'll stay from guns at all costs. I'm not risking it, bullet holes are NOT badges of honor.

If you survive em' they are...chicks dig scars and men know that you ain't gonna go down easily.

That wears off eventually. Look at 50 Cent, he has survived several bullet holes. Lately those bullet holes are starting to lose their sting since his last album flopped.

[native]

People who make asses out of themselves are what make message boards more interesting. Keep up the good work.

Never a dull moment with Mr. Bluepants!

[AZGrizFan]

Hint: Most people have no problem with cops racial profiling. And this was NOT a case of that. You're making an ass of yourself here....

How would you know? Did you grow up a minority?

I agree racial profiling might not have been the case here, but to say SOME cops DON'T racial profile is beyond stupid.

Honestly who wouldn't have gone ballistic after being accused of breaking into their OWN home. Whether white, black, brown, or blue. I think both sides were little outta hand here.

As far a Obama saying something bout it, I agree he probably shouldn't have, but the catch is if he didn't he would've had the black community mad at him. I don't mean every single black person. So he was damn if did or if he didn't.

As for making myself look like an ass here, honestly this is a message board, I doubt I'm gonna lose sleep if my E-cred goes down the tubes.

Lastly my faggot comment was a little harsh, I just like to stir up things, my bad if I hurt your feelings.

I didnt' grow up a minority, but I've since become one. I'm a middle-aged white guy. And if someone had recently broken into my home, and cops were there because someone reported ANOTHER breakin, I think I'd have handled it WAY differently than this black-man-with-a-chip-the-size-of-Rhode-Island did.

And to have E-cred go down the tubes would be to imply you actually HAD it in the first place.

[D1B]

How would you know? Did you grow up a minority?

I agree racial profiling might not have been the case here, but to say SOME cops DON'T racial profile is beyond stupid.

Honestly who wouldn't have gone ballistic after being accused of breaking into their OWN home. Whether white, black, brown, or blue. I think both sides were little outta hand here.

As far a Obama saying something bout it, I agree he probably shouldn't have, but the catch is if he didn't he would've had the black community mad at him. I don't mean every single black person. So he was damn if did or if he didn't.

As for making myself look like an ass here, honestly this is a message board, I doubt I'm gonna lose sleep if my E-cred goes down the tubes.

Lastly my faggot comment was a little harsh, I just like to stir up things, my bad if I hurt your feelings.

I didnt' grow up a minority, but I've since become one. I'm a middle-aged white guy. And if someone had recently broken into my home, and cops were there because someone reported ANOTHER breakin, I think I'd have handled it WAY differently than this black-man-with-a-chip-the-size-of-Rhode-Island did.

And to have E-cred go down the tubes would be to imply you actually HAD it in the first place.

Victory for NorthernCOU

[AZGrizFan]

I didnt' grow up a minority, but I've since become one. I'm a middle-aged white guy. And if someone had recently broken into my home, and cops were there because someone reported ANOTHER breakin, I think I'd have handled it WAY differently than this black-man-with-a-chip-the-size-of-Rhode-Island did.

And to have E-cred go down the tubes would be to imply you actually HAD it in the first place.

Victory for NorthernCOU

D1B-self proclaimed "scorekeeper" for cs.com.