I hate Government

[CID1990]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

^^^^ this is you in a nutshell Treep

You don’t understand the concept of how benefits are earned


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[∞∞∞]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

^^^^ this is you in a nutshell Treep

You don’t understand the concept of how benefits are earned

A soldier doesn't contribute any more to society than a janitor, farmer, teacher, construction worker, etc.

And I'm not saying soldiers didn't earn their benefits; they do. I'm simply saying jobs heavily regulated and/or overseen by government are better off than capitalist laissez faire policies that many here love to embrace.

You and AZ are examples of how society (government) gains long-term benefits when it invests in its people. The military isn't special...society needs doctors and teachers and engineers and artists and athletes and merchants and so on.

[kalm]

We should all hate government to a certain degree. It would be spooky if we didn’t.

It’s the gratitude part of having a big government that often gets lost.

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It’s the gratitude part of having a big government that often gets lost.

This is the silent Cal point to my JSO-esque rant.

[CID1990]

^^^^ this is you in a nutshell Treep

You don’t understand the concept of how benefits are earned

A soldier doesn't contribute any more to society than a janitor, farmer, teacher, construction worker, etc.

And I'm not saying soldiers didn't earn their benefits; they do. I'm simply saying jobs heavily regulated and/or overseen by government are better off than capitalist laissez faire policies that many here love to embrace.

You and AZ are examples of how society (government) gains long-term benefits when it invests in its people. The military isn't special...society needs doctors and teachers and engineers and artists and athletes and merchants and so on.

I’ve got news for you fella

The government invested very little in this guy.. I came to State with a couple degrees, and basically a bunch of cop experience (about the cheapest gov investment out there)..

And then they slapped a few weeks of orientation and consular training on me, and that’s it.

The military ain’t a whole lot different unless you are flying gazillion dollar airplanes. I got 8 weeks of boot camp, a couple months of electronic warfare training, and then off to sea. It is rare that our government “invests” large sums in anybody. High level operators, but that’s like less than a half percent of the Fed workforce.

A lot of people like to say our military is the best trained in the world... that’s a load of crap. Our military is the best equipped in the world but I can count 15 countries off the too of my head who train their militaries better.

The government does not attract the best people as a rule. The get some good ones, but that’s the luck of the draw. And most people who come on board made themselves employable after years of school and life experience. People invest in themselves.


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^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

[CID1990]

^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

Re: your last paragraph...

What investments did the government make in my education, my physical training/health, or VA benefits?

BTW I’ll warn you ahead of time because I think you’re cute (in a pat you on the head kind of way)... this is a trap question ... one of those that jelly and klam always fall into like Boba Fett in the Sarlaac


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[Ibanez]

^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

You’ve completely failed to understand what CID said. Swing and a miss


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[CID1990]

^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

You’ve completely failed to understand what CID said. Swing and a miss


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Heh heh.. huh huh

He thinks the military trains doctors or nurses etc etc




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[houndawg]

You’ve completely failed to understand what CID said. Swing and a miss


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Heh heh.. huh huh

He thinks the military trains doctors or nurses etc etc




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They don't? My friend's daughter went to Annapolis and after her commission they sent her to Harvard Med School.

[Ibanez]

Heh heh.. huh huh

He thinks the military trains doctors or nurses etc etc




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They don't? My friend's daughter went to Annapolis and after her commission they sent her to Harvard Med School.

Re-read that sentence.

Harvard trained her. Not the Navy. It wasn't Naval doctors teaching all those courses.

[UNI88]

They don't? My friend's daughter went to Annapolis and after her commission they sent her to Harvard Med School.

Re-read that sentence.

Harvard trained her. Not the Navy. It was Naval doctors teaching all those courses.

The Navy paid for it. Houndy and Trip want to ignore that in exchange they received years of service so they can argue that it's no different than free college, medicare-for-all, etc.

If that's the case then "free" college is already available through the GI Bill and Americorps.

[houndawg]

They don't? My friend's daughter went to Annapolis and after her commission they sent her to Harvard Med School.

Re-read that sentence.

Harvard trained her. Not the Navy. It was Naval doctors teaching all those courses.

I'd say the Navy taught her if it was Navy doctors teaching the course. I don't have and problem with it, I was just responding to CID's comment. I wouldn't have a drgree myself without the GI Bill.

[Ibanez]

Re-read that sentence.

Harvard trained her. Not the Navy. It was Naval doctors teaching all those courses.

I'd say the Navy taught her if it was Navy doctors teaching the course. I don't have and problem with it, I was just responding to CID's comment. I wouldn't have a drgree myself without the GI Bill.

Navy gave her experience. They didn't teach her.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

How would you know you don't have the balls to serve this country? I would say more than half of the idiotic things you listed people go into in the military are chosen because they have prior experience. Especially mechanics, electricians cops

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[HI54UNI]

As someone currently dealing with the federal government for work I don't know why anyone would want to give more power to the federal government.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

As someone currently dealing with the federal government for work I don't know why anyone would want to give more power to the federal government.

Yeah working with them is almost unbearable. I know I wont ever do anymore jobs for them its not worth it at any price.

[Ibanez]

As someone currently dealing with the federal government for work I don't know why anyone would want to give more power to the federal government.

I deal with Federal Regulators at work. We got an MRA last year to update our Business Continuity Plan b/c we didn't take into account how long it would take to rebuild our corporate HQ if it were subject to a 9/11 type attack. Not the displacement of workers or work efforts. Actual construction of a 50+ floor building. And we're an InfoSec group. Not corp realty or anything like that.

[Ibanez]

^Yeah you're right, the government doesn't train its military personnel to be nurses or physicians or electricians or mechanics or control tower operators or programmers or dentists or translators or ship captains or truck drivers or...

Yup unless you fly gazillion dollar airplanes, society (government) doesn't benefit from the investment. Our training is subpar.

Glad you didn't benefit from the investments the government made in your education, or your physical training and health, or the peace of mind the VA gives veterans if your private insurance leaves you hanging.

How would you know you don't have the balls to serve this country? I would say more than half of the idiotic things you listed people go into in the military are chosen because they have prior experience. Especially mechanics, electricians cops

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Oh I didn't know you served. Which branch?

[AZGrizFan]

I hate government, says the veteran with all benefits afforded to him by government during and after his enlistment.

I hate government, says the man who will murder someone for the Constitution - a document which outlines government.

Please list all the “benefits” you think I’ve been afforded so I can school your ass.

I see CID beat me to it.

Trip....you are the epitome of Ready-Fire-Aim mentality....you ought to install a fucking filter between your brain and your mouth, maybe then a lot of the stupid shit you say wouldn't come out in your outside voice.

[89Hen]

How about this one Z. My wonderful state is exploring a tax on professional services like: country club dues, realtor commission, legal services, etc... so my club dues would go up 5% with all the money going to the state. Imagine hiring a lawyer and having to pay an extra 5% to Maryland.

IF this were to ever pass, I'm out.

Perfect.

Bill died in subcommittee last night. Looks like I'm staying for a little while longer. At least until I get my first fine for using fertilizer on my lawn.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

How would you know you don't have the balls to serve this country? I would say more than half of the idiotic things you listed people go into in the military are chosen because they have prior experience. Especially mechanics, electricians cops

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Oh I didn't know you served. Which branch?

I got kicked out of the Army. I would do it again anytime

[AZGrizFan]

Oh I didn't know you served. Which branch?

I got kicked out of the Army. I would do it again anytime

Lie.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

I got kicked out of the Army. I would do it again anytime

Lie.

Nope 100% true.

Ask some of the guys at our tailgate. One of them knows because he was there when it happened.

[Ibanez]

Oh I didn't know you served. Which branch?

I got kicked out of the Army. I would do it again anytime

BCD? What'd you do?