Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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kalm wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:01 pm
Ivytalk wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:09 pm

I don’t favor bailouts for poor business decisions. That’s been my position since well before 2008.
So let’s just bail out the businesses that made sound decisions?
Well, those would be the ones most deserving of a bailout under these circumstances. Not that I'm a proponent of TBTF or bailouts in general.

Reinforce success. Punish failure (or at least don't subsidize it).
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 am
kalm wrote: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:01 pm

So let’s just bail out the businesses that made sound decisions?
Well, those would be the ones most deserving of a bailout under these circumstances. Not that I'm a proponent of TBTF or bailouts in general.

Reinforce success. Punish failure (or at least don't subsidize it).
So define sound decisions...
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 am
CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 am

Well, those would be the ones most deserving of a bailout under these circumstances. Not that I'm a proponent of TBTF or bailouts in general.

Reinforce success. Punish failure (or at least don't subsidize it).
So define sound decisions...
Pretty much anything that would fall under the “business judgment rule” standard, which is gross negligence under DE law. It’s designed to protect corporate officers and directors from the consequences of taking rational business risks. Is this enough, or do you want a JoltinJoe-length treatise? :poke:
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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Chizzang wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:39 am
I missed that part... I was ranting at Flaggy (sorry Ganny)
Me? Either quote my post or rant at something related to what I posted.

So what did I say that warranted a rant from you?
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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Ivytalk wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:18 am
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 am

So define sound decisions...
Pretty much anything that would fall under the “business judgment rule” standard, which is gross negligence under DE law. It’s designed to protect corporate officers and directors from the consequences of taking rational business risks. Is this enough, or do you want a JoltinJoe-length treatise? :poke:
I’m only getting started!

Define “rational”.
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 am
CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 am

Well, those would be the ones most deserving of a bailout under these circumstances. Not that I'm a proponent of TBTF or bailouts in general.

Reinforce success. Punish failure (or at least don't subsidize it).
So define sound decisions...
You used that term. I didn't. You define it.
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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CitadelGrad wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:07 am
kalm wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:06 am

So define sound decisions...
You used that term. I didn't. You define it.
Actually Ivy brought up the point. I was just replying. You don’t have to answer it if you don’t want to. It’s a trap anyway.
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Re: Warren's Conditions for Bailouts

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kalm wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:00 am
Ivytalk wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:18 am

Pretty much anything that would fall under the “business judgment rule” standard, which is gross negligence under DE law. It’s designed to protect corporate officers and directors from the consequences of taking rational business risks. Is this enough, or do you want a JoltinJoe-length treatise? :poke:
I’m only getting started!

Define “rational”.
You’re at it again. Actually, I should delete the word “rational” from my post. It doesn’t really add anything under the gross negligence standard. Now you answer my question.
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