That's really unfortunate. The states and local governments should ignore the Supreme Court and go ahead with them.CID1990 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:00 amWRONG∞∞∞ wrote: Federal ban in front of clinics, as many liberal states have already done so.
They can free-speech it from 500 feet away.
Those state laws were struck down about 5 years ago - rightfully - as an infringement on peaceful assembly and free speech
Federal law prohibits barring access to clinics by physical force or intimidation
You’d ban it all because free speech is the enemy of the revolution.... we get it
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Yeah∞∞∞ wrote:That's really unfortunate. The states should simply ignore the Supreme Court.CID1990 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:00 am WRONG
Those state laws were struck down about 5 years ago - rightfully - as an infringement on peaceful assembly and free speech
Federal law prohibits barring access to clinics by physical force or intimidation
You’d ban it all because free speech is the enemy of the revolution.... we get it
Except for the lawsuit losses for unlawful arrests... it’d totally work
You little Trotskys aren’t very detail oriented
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Revolutions are messy, details can be so annoying. If only there was an app for that.
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Hell Im not an abortion protester but you can bet if some governor said he was gonna defy SCOTUS and lock up picketers...
I’d be front and center with a headless baby sign
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States should throw out or ignore the lawsuits, then let the SCOTUS enforce the rule with its army.
Want detail oriented though? Make the entrance 500 feet wide. And for 89, 500 is just a number I'm throwing.
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It’s no wonder you are a communist∞∞∞ wrote:States should throw out or ignore the lawsuits, then let the SCOTUS enforce the rule with its army.
Want detail oriented though? Make the entrance 500 feet wide.
You don’t understand how things work
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If there's anything the last four years have taught me, it's that if you're powerful enough, you can simply ignore the law and no one will do anything about it (even in a "strong" democracy). States are pretty powerful. They should just ignore the fed.
Isn't that a libertarians wet dream anyways? The Federal government having little to no power over states?
Let's implement it.
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Bless your heart∞∞∞ wrote:If there's anything the last four years have taught me, it's that if you're powerful enough, you can simply ignore the law and no one will do anything about it (even in a "strong" democracy). States are pretty powerful. They should just ignore the fed.
Isn't that a libertarians wet dream anyways? The Federal government having little to no power over states?
Let's implement it.
There’s nothing the states can do about civil rights violations and the associated torts
Or are you just planning on politely asking protesters to obey unconstitutional laws?
And good luck getting the police and local jurisdictions to enforce it when they have direct liability
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BTW - you wanna re-think your libertarian analogy for a sec? Just go back and read what you wroteCID1990 wrote:Bless your heart∞∞∞ wrote: If there's anything the last four years have taught me, it's that if you're powerful enough, you can simply ignore the law and no one will do anything about it (even in a "strong" democracy). States are pretty powerful. They should just ignore the fed.
Isn't that a libertarians wet dream anyways? The Federal government having little to no power over states?
Let's implement it.
There’s nothing the states can do about civil rights violations and the associated torts
Or are you just planning on politely asking protesters to obey unconstitutional laws?
And good luck getting the police and local jurisdictions to enforce it when they have direct liability
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Left wing governors and mayors trying to out-Trump Trump would be a big gift to Trump.
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It is completely and utterly ignorant to judge the Founding Fathers by today's standards.When compared to others of the time they were remarkable men and that is the way that history should remember them. They did more to further the cause of liberty and equality then Bernie and all the other progressives living today will accomplish in their lifetimes.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:20 amThe founding fathers were way more extreme than I am.
In fact, they actively led the theft of Native American land and enslavement of black people, all so they didn't have to pay some taxes back home. And then went on to architect a government made only by rich white men, in which (some) people had indirect say and their upper-class were the final arbiters of all decisions.
Then had the audacity (or fine propaganda skills) to define it as liberty.
250 years from now people won't even remember Bernie and his band of neo-progressive bro's.
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Now that we established that abortion is a loss of life, can we stop the hysteria about a few thousand people dying from the Chinese Flu? Time to get everyone back to work.
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Yeah but Bernie got Biden to agree to some task forces to develop solutions for today's progressive problems. TASK FORCES!!!UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:51 amIt is completely and utterly ignorant to judge the Founding Fathers by today's standards.When compared to others of the time they were remarkable men and that is the way that history should remember them. They did more to further the cause of liberty and equality then Bernie and all the other progressives living today will accomplish in their lifetimes.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:20 am
The founding fathers were way more extreme than I am.
In fact, they actively led the theft of Native American land and enslavement of black people, all so they didn't have to pay some taxes back home. And then went on to architect a government made only by rich white men, in which (some) people had indirect say and their upper-class were the final arbiters of all decisions.
Then had the audacity (or fine propaganda skills) to define it as liberty.
250 years from now people won't even remember Bernie and his band of neo-progressive bro's.
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Yep. He's taking an epic beating, keeps doubling down on stupid, and yet amazingly keeps coming back for more. Its like battered poster syndrome..
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UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:51 amIt is completely and utterly ignorant to judge the Founding Fathers by today's standards.When compared to others of the time they were remarkable men and that is the way that history should remember them. They did more to further the cause of liberty and equality then Bernie and all the other progressives living today will accomplish in their lifetimes.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:20 am
The founding fathers were way more extreme than I am.
In fact, they actively led the theft of Native American land and enslavement of black people, all so they didn't have to pay some taxes back home. And then went on to architect a government made only by rich white men, in which (some) people had indirect say and their upper-class were the final arbiters of all decisions.
Then had the audacity (or fine propaganda skills) to define it as liberty.
250 years from now people won't even remember Bernie and his band of neo-progressive bro's.
Yup, the biggest issue with our knee-jerk, social media gotcha mentality that so many folks like to pull snippets of things, and in history it's even worse, without keeping the context of what they are pulling out. Any review of historical events or entities without keeping in mind the context of that history is lazy at best and deceitful at worst.
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The same could be said of our founding fathers. Did I do that right Kalm? Oh wait, they were pieces of shit.

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You could have stopped after “utterly ignorant”, applied the sentiment to Trip, and moved on.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:51 amIt is completely and utterly ignorant to judge the Founding Fathers by today's standards.When compared to others of the time they were remarkable men and that is the way that history should remember them. They did more to further the cause of liberty and equality then Bernie and all the other progressives living today will accomplish in their lifetimes.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:20 am
The founding fathers were way more extreme than I am.
In fact, they actively led the theft of Native American land and enslavement of black people, all so they didn't have to pay some taxes back home. And then went on to architect a government made only by rich white men, in which (some) people had indirect say and their upper-class were the final arbiters of all decisions.
Then had the audacity (or fine propaganda skills) to define it as liberty.
250 years from now people won't even remember Bernie and his band of neo-progressive bro's.
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It's easy to say an 18th Century person with 18th Century attitudes and ideals is inferior to someone as enlightened as a 21st Century Millennial.∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:29 amMost of us are significantly better people than our founding fathers. We really should be renaming cities and states, as well as taking down their statues from public places. Let them live in the history books and museums.
They were just a bunch of new elite wanting to overthrow old elite, and everything else was rhetoric designed for popular support.
Certainly extreme for their time though.
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Did Trip ever define where the “progressive” line was?
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This country is so horrible that Trip stays here, maybe we need a government program that takes people like him and gets them out of here for their mental well being. Not by their choice but ours
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