Coronavirus COVID-19

[kalm]

Just live day to day, man. It will be alright.

YOLO or something

[Winterborn]

[UNI88]

[kalm]

When teaching group short game clinics you learn to say “ok everyone, grab your (GOLF) balls and follow me.”

[Ibanez]

Or they never really got over it the first time.

Or they got the other of the at least 2 strains..

Aren't there 14 stains of COVID-19?

[houndawg]

Really nothing new here, klam. For every anti-conservative screed like this, there is an equal and opposite anti-progressive screed. We’ve become a nation of memes. I give this country 25 more years tops.

You may be right but it doesn’t have to be that way. We could have a bunch of the US re-opened and controllable for outbreaks by mid summer....IF WE CHOSE TO. The long term economic threat might be as great as mitigating strategies that allow it to linger. Not just from a shut down standpoint but a risk taking tolerance for consumers. I’d gladly give up to two more months and deficit spending towards crushing the enemy in exchange for a sure footed return to near normal. Would you?

But our plan also recognizes that rural towns in Montana should not necessarily have to shut down the way New York City has. To pull off this balancing act, the country should be divided into red, yellow and green zones. The goal is to be a green zone, where fewer than one resident per 36,000 is infected. Here, large gatherings are allowed, and masks aren’t required for those who don’t interact with the elderly or other vulnerable populations. Green zones require a minimum of one test per day for every 10,000 people and a five-person contact tracing team for every 100,000 people. (These are the levels currently maintained in South Korea, which has suppressed covid-19.) Two weeks ago, a modest 1,900 tests a day could have kept 19 million Americans safely in green zones. Today, there are no green zones in the United States.

Most Americans — about 298 million — live in yellow zones, where disease prevalence is between .002 percent and 1 percent. But even in yellow zones, the economy could safely reopen with aggressive testing and tracing, coupled with safety measures including mandatory masks. In South Korea, during the peak of its outbreak, it took 25 tests to detect one positive case, and the case fatality rate was 1 percent. Following this model, yellow zones would require 2,500 tests for every daily death. To contain spread, yellow zones also would ramp up contact tracing until a team is available for every new daily coronavirus case. After one tracer conducts an interview, the team would spend 12 hours identifying all those at risk. Speed matters, because the virus spreads quickly; three days is useless for tracing. (Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., are all yellow zones.)

A disease prevalence greater than 1 percent defines red zones. Today, 30 million Americans live in such hot spots — which include Detroit, New Jersey, New Orleans and New York City. In addition to the yellow-zone interventions, these places require stay-at-home orders. But by strictly following guidelines for testing and tracing, red zones could turn yellow within four weeks, moving steadfastly from lockdown to liberty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... e=facebook

This vote breaks down along the line of whether you make your money or somebody else makes it for you.

[UNI88]

You may be right but it doesn’t have to be that way. We could have a bunch of the US re-opened and controllable for outbreaks by mid summer....IF WE CHOSE TO. The long term economic threat might be as great as mitigating strategies that allow it to linger. Not just from a shut down standpoint but a risk taking tolerance for consumers. I’d gladly give up to two more months and deficit spending towards crushing the enemy in exchange for a sure footed return to near normal. Would you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... e=facebook

This vote breaks down along the line of whether you make your money or somebody else makes it for you.

So people who are working vs those who are on unemployment?

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota non-essential business is now open for business in Minnesota.

[Ivytalk]

Minnesota non-essential business is now open for business in Minnesota.

Sounds like a Bidenism.

[Ibanez]

Minnesota non-essential business is now open for business in Minnesota.

Sounds like a Bidenism.

[GannonFan]

Still closed here in Montgomery county in PA (one of the suburban ones that ring Philly). 566 deaths in the county, of which, 522 were in nursing homes. That's about 93% of the deaths just in nursing homes. How this isn't a bigger story in PA is beyond me - news outlets these days aren't really digging deep for stories. Will still have non-essential businesses shut down for another 2-3 weeks here when again, 93% of the deaths have happened in nursing homes.

[houndawg]

This vote breaks down along the line of whether you make your money or somebody else makes it for you.

So people who are working vs those who are on unemployment?

Oh dear.

No, that isn't what I mean.

[93henfan]

Delaware just released four pages of restrictions that churches must follow if they want to resume in-person worship services. I made the following FB reply to a very Catholic, very Expandos/conspiracy theorist friend's post of the rules:

"They're limiting services to one hour? Yes!"

Holy shit did a virtual lynch mob ever circle me immediately.

[UNI88]

So people who are working vs those who are on unemployment?

Oh dear.

No, that isn't what I mean.

I know the point you were attempting to make but your statement was clearly open to another interpretation.

[CAA Flagship]

Or they got the other of the at least 2 strains..

Aren't there 14 stains of COVID-19?

[Ibanez]

Aren't there 14 stains of COVID-19?

Fuck your dog

[AZGrizFan]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/artic ... 43215.html

On March 6, Liz Specht, Ph.D., posted a thread on Twitter that immediately went viral. As of this writing, it has received over 100,000 likes and almost 41,000 retweets, and was republished at Stat News. It purported to “talk math” and reflected the views of “highly esteemed epidemiologists.” It insisted it was “not a hypothetical, fear-mongering, worst-case scenario,” and that, while the predictions it contained might be wrong, they would not be “orders of magnitude wrong.” It was also catastrophically incorrect.
The crux of Dr. Specht’s 35-tweet thread was that the rapid doubling of COVID-19 cases would lead to about 1 million cases by May 5, 4 million by May 11, and so forth. Under this scenario, with a 10% hospitalization rate, we would expect approximately 400,000 hospitalizations by mid-May, which would more than overwhelm the estimated 330,000 available hospital beds in the country. This would combine with a lack of protective equipment for health care workers and lead to them “dropping from the workforce for weeks at a time,” to shortages of saline drips and so forth. Half the world would be infected by the summer, and we were implicitly advised to buy dry goods and to prepare not to leave the house.
Interestingly, this thread was wrong not because we managed to bend the curve and stave off the apocalypse; for starters, Dr. Specht described the cancellation of large events and workplace closures as something that would shift things by only days or weeks.
Instead, this thread was wrong because it dramatically overstated our knowledge of the way the virus worked; it fell prey to the problem, common among experts, of failing to address adequately the uncertainty surrounding its point estimates. It did so in two opposing ways. First, it dramatically understated the rate of spread. If serological tests are to be remotely believed, we likely hit the apocalyptic milestone of 2 million cases quite some time ago. Not in the United States, mind you, but in New York City, where 20% of residents showed positive COVID-19 antibodies on April 23. Fourteen percent of state residents showed antibodies, suggesting 2.5 million cases in the Empire State alone; since antibodies take a while to develop, this was likely the state of affairs in mid-April or earlier.

Our media is a fucking joke. Honestly. This isn't about "fake news" or any of Trump's BS. This is just plain old lazy-azz journalism. There are literal BOMBSHELL stories out there like this and not a single major outlet is investigating them.

[89Hen]

Delaware just released four pages of restrictions that churches must follow if they want to resume in-person worship services. I made the following FB reply to a very Catholic, very Expandos/conspiracy theorist friend's post of the rules:

"They're limiting services to one hour? Yes!"

Holy shit did a virtual lynch mob ever circle me immediately.

We pick our RC church based on masses being under an hour.

[Ibanez]

Delaware just released four pages of restrictions that churches must follow if they want to resume in-person worship services. I made the following FB reply to a very Catholic, very Expandos/conspiracy theorist friend's post of the rules:

"They're limiting services to one hour? Yes!"

Holy shit did a virtual lynch mob ever circle me immediately.

We pick our RC church based on masses being under an hour.

Our pastor growing up would use 14 words with 7 would suffice. It was not uncommon for the services to go past 1 hour.

[89Hen]

We pick our RC church based on masses being under an hour.

Our pastor growing up would use 14 words with 7 would suffice. It was not uncommon for the services to go past 1 hour.

We used to go to the hospital chapel at Georgetown U. No singing, out in 30 minutes.

[Ibanez]

Our pastor growing up would use 14 words with 7 would suffice. It was not uncommon for the services to go past 1 hour.

We used to go to the drive through hospital chapel at Georgetown U. No singing, out in 30 minutes.

FIFY.


We went to one church where the pastor kept it to a tight 45-50 minute service. His sermons weren't long and he didn't waste time after communion like some priests do.

[89Hen]

he didn't waste time after communion like some priests do.

There are a lot of places to tighten things up, that's one. I like the ones that don't sit down after communion.

[Ibanez]

he didn't waste time after communion like some priests do.

There are a lot of places to tighten things up, that's one. I like the ones that don't sit down after communion.

WHAT!? I didn't know that was a legit option!! Growing up you could never leave after communion and we looked down on those smart fools that just walked right out afterwards

[Baldy]

Still closed here in Montgomery county in PA (one of the suburban ones that ring Philly). 566 deaths in the county, of which, 522 were in nursing homes. That's about 93% of the deaths just in nursing homes. How this isn't a bigger story in PA is beyond me - news outlets these days aren't really digging deep for stories. Will still have non-essential businesses shut down for another 2-3 weeks here when again, 93% of the deaths have happened in nursing homes.

It's not a bigger story in your state because your Governor has a (D) beside his name. Same for Cuomo (D) in NY.

Just imagine the news cycle outrage if the Governor of Georgia signed an Executive Order mandating nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients which resulted in the deaths of untold thousands of people.

[89Hen]

There are a lot of places to tighten things up, that's one. I like the ones that don't sit down after communion.

WHAT!? I didn't know that was a legit option!! Growing up you could never leave after communion and we looked down on those smart fools that just walked right out afterwards

Yeah, we never did growing up either and we didn't really when the kids were living with us. Now that it's just me and Mrs, I find myself giving her the nod to walk out. Especially if I see somebody I know she'll want to talk to for 30 minutes after mass.