Coronavirus COVID-19

[89Hen]

Looks like the Spanish flu’s one-year record is safe.

Kind of interesting that they chose only one particular year of flu deaths. I guess it doesn't look good when other flu years aren't too far from Covid.

[Gil Dobie]

Fuck it! We’re done with this. Let’s just reopen.


“Intensive care units in Montgomery, Ala., are overflowing with Covid-19 patients, pushing them into emergency departments that are not primed to care for them. And Alabama’s capital city could be a harbinger for other parts of the country.

ICU beds are also starting to fill up in places like Minnesota’s Twin Cities; Omaha, Neb.; and the entire state of Rhode Island, according to local health officials and epidemiologists tracking such data, a warning sign of possible health care problems down the road. The availability of ICU beds is one measure of a hospital’s ability to care for its most vulnerable patients — people with severe illness who require more staff to treat them and may need life-support equipment such as a ventilator to breathe. And it's served as a metric for whether the local health care system is able to handle a coronavirus outbreak, albeit a constantly shifting one.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... lag-287552

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

[mainejeff]

[mainejeff]

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

The virus or the violence?

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

The virus or the violence?

They have plenty of beds for the violence.

[GannonFan]

Fuck it! We’re done with this. Let’s just reopen.


“Intensive care units in Montgomery, Ala., are overflowing with Covid-19 patients, pushing them into emergency departments that are not primed to care for them. And Alabama’s capital city could be a harbinger for other parts of the country.

ICU beds are also starting to fill up in places like Minnesota’s Twin Cities; Omaha, Neb.; and the entire state of Rhode Island, according to local health officials and epidemiologists tracking such data, a warning sign of possible health care problems down the road. The availability of ICU beds is one measure of a hospital’s ability to care for its most vulnerable patients — people with severe illness who require more staff to treat them and may need life-support equipment such as a ventilator to breathe. And it's served as a metric for whether the local health care system is able to handle a coronavirus outbreak, albeit a constantly shifting one.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... lag-287552

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

So what is it, are they running out of ICU beds in Minnesota or not? Kalm's link said they're on the precipice of disaster, you're saying they're not even close. This is the kind of crappy reporting we get anymore from journalism today.

[Gil Dobie]

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

So what is it, are they running out of ICU beds in Minnesota or not? Kalm's link said they're on the precipice of disaster, you're saying they're not even close. This is the kind of crappy reporting we get anymore from journalism today.

Iv'e read they are running out, but they can setup more when needed, aka Mayo converting hockey arena's, etc.

[houndawg]

The virus or the violence?

They have plenty of beds for the violence.

Just like the old days!

Burn Baby Burn!

[kalm]

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

So what is it, are they running out of ICU beds in Minnesota or not? Kalm's link said they're on the precipice of disaster, you're saying they're not even close. This is the kind of crappy reporting we get anymore from journalism today.

I would think most areas have back up locations. Doesn’t mean it’s not a significant story. ‘It’s ok...we’ll just stick you in the Howard Johnson Hospital.’

[CID1990]

Fuck it! We’re done with this. Let’s just reopen.


“Intensive care units in Montgomery, Ala., are overflowing with Covid-19 patients, pushing them into emergency departments that are not primed to care for them. And Alabama’s capital city could be a harbinger for other parts of the country.

ICU beds are also starting to fill up in places like Minnesota’s Twin Cities; Omaha, Neb.; and the entire state of Rhode Island, according to local health officials and epidemiologists tracking such data, a warning sign of possible health care problems down the road. The availability of ICU beds is one measure of a hospital’s ability to care for its most vulnerable patients — people with severe illness who require more staff to treat them and may need life-support equipment such as a ventilator to breathe. And it's served as a metric for whether the local health care system is able to handle a coronavirus outbreak, albeit a constantly shifting one.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... lag-287552

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

Holy cow! Over 40 deaths!

Its almost like COVID is giving cancer and diabetes a run fir their money


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[mainejeff]

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

Holy cow! Over 40 deaths!

Its almost like COVID is giving cancer and diabetes a run fir their money


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Thankfully cancer & diabetes are not transmittable.

[CID1990]

Holy cow! Over 40 deaths!

Its almost like COVID is giving cancer and diabetes a run fir their money


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Thankfully cancer & diabetes are not transmittable.

They are through stupidity and genetics,?Mr Party of Science


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[mainejeff]

Thankfully cancer & diabetes are not transmittable.

They are through stupidity and genetics,?Mr Party of Science


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Car accidents kill many people too but you don't see them banning cars!

[Ibanez]

Thankfully cancer & diabetes are not transmittable.

They are through stupidity and genetics,?Mr Party of Science


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That's junk science, you rube.

[kalm]

Florida, Georgia, and Texas numbers are still rising. Even worse is the apparent pneumonia outbreak in those states...

[BDKJMU]

Mario there is ignorant of history. He left off the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flu.

1957-1958 Asian Flu (came from China)
CDC estimated killed 116,000 Americans out of a population about 175 million, equivalent to about 220,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

1968-1970 Hong Kong Flu (came from China).
CDC estimate killed about 100,000 Americans out of a population of about 200 million, equivalent to about 165,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/new ... nt-history
https://www.multpl.com/united-states-po ... le/by-year

[Ibanez]

Mario there is ignorant of history. He left off the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flu.

1957-1958 Asian Flu (came from China)
CDC estimated killed 116,000 Americans out of a population about 175 million, equivalent to about 220,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

1968-1970 Hong Kong Flu (came from China).
CDC estimate killed about 100,000 Americans out of a population of about 200 million, equivalent to about 165,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/new ... nt-history
https://www.multpl.com/united-states-po ... le/by-year

Where would we be without you?

Hey, did you know Adolf Eichmann was Gestapo?!?!?

[BDKJMU]

Mario there is ignorant of history. He left off the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flu.

1957-1958 Asian Flu (came from China)
CDC estimated killed 116,000 Americans out of a population about 175 million, equivalent to about 220,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

1968-1970 Hong Kong Flu (came from China).
CDC estimate killed about 100,000 Americans out of a population of about 200 million, equivalent to about 165,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/new ... nt-history
https://www.multpl.com/united-states-po ... le/by-year

Where would we be without you?

Hey, did you know Adolf Eichmann was Gestapo?!?!?

Completely ignoring 2 of the 3 biggest outbreaks in the US in the last 60+ years that each killed 100k+ Americans is just a little bit more significant than whether Eichman’s SS dept was considered part of the Gestapo or not...

[Col Hogan]

Washington DC Mayor has issued her plan to reopen the city...with 10 critical things that need to be done...

Number 7 is a doozy...




That’s one way to make up the money that’s been lot because of the pandemic...

[Ibanez]

Where would we be without you?

Hey, did you know Adolf Eichmann was Gestapo?!?!?

Completely ignoring 2 of the 3 biggest outbreaks in the US in the last 60+ years that each killed 100k+ Americans is just a little bit more significant than whether Eichman’s SS dept was considered part of the Gestapo or not...

Not surprisingly, you missed the joke bub.

And you're still wrong, Eichmann was Gestapo. I've shown you the evidence, it's up to you have the intellectual honesty and maturity to admit you were wrong. I'll be here waiting.

Spoiler: show

You've got it backwards: Gestapo was a subdivision of the SS after Himmler took over.

[Ibanez]

Washington DC Mayor has issued her plan to reopen the city...with 10 critical things that need to be done...

Number 7 is a doozy...




That’s one way to make up the money that’s been lot because of the pandemic...

Good luck. The speed limit in my neighborhood is 20 and nobody obeys it. All those law and order Republicans w/ MAGA stickers love to break that law and then get pissy when they're called out.

[BDKJMU]

Completely ignoring 2 of the 3 biggest outbreaks in the US in the last 60+ years that each killed 100k+ Americans is just a little bit more significant than whether Eichman’s SS dept was considered part of the Gestapo or not...

Not surprisingly, you missed the joke bub.

And you're still wrong, Eichmann was Gestapo. I've shown you the evidence, it's up to you have the intellectual honesty and maturity to admit you were wrong. I'll be here waiting.

Spoiler: show

You've got it backwards: Gestapo was a subdivision of the SS after Himmler took over.

I didn’t say Eichman wasn’t Gestapo in my above post by saying WHETHER OR NOT. Whether or not = irrelevant to what we’re talking about. Few weeks ago I was wrong on saying he wasn’t (after Cid said the same). You corrected us. Again, WHETHER OR NOT Eichman’s SS dept was considered part of the Gestapo (it was as you pointed out) is irrelvant to someone ignoring 2 of the 3 biggest outbreaks of the last 60 years.

[SeattleGriz]

Fuck it! We’re done with this. Let’s just reopen.


“Intensive care units in Montgomery, Ala., are overflowing with Covid-19 patients, pushing them into emergency departments that are not primed to care for them. And Alabama’s capital city could be a harbinger for other parts of the country.

ICU beds are also starting to fill up in places like Minnesota’s Twin Cities; Omaha, Neb.; and the entire state of Rhode Island, according to local health officials and epidemiologists tracking such data, a warning sign of possible health care problems down the road. The availability of ICU beds is one measure of a hospital’s ability to care for its most vulnerable patients — people with severe illness who require more staff to treat them and may need life-support equipment such as a ventilator to breathe. And it's served as a metric for whether the local health care system is able to handle a coronavirus outbreak, albeit a constantly shifting one.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... lag-287552

Minnesota can open another 1000 ICU beds in short time when needed. Most deaths in a day yesterday, over 40. Still a lot of people not taking this serious.

Why are susceptible people comingling with carriers of COVID?

[Ibanez]

Not surprisingly, you missed the joke bub.

And you're still wrong, Eichmann was Gestapo. I've shown you the evidence, it's up to you have the intellectual honesty and maturity to admit you were wrong. I'll be here waiting.

Spoiler: show

You've got it backwards: Gestapo was a subdivision of the SS after Himmler took over.

I didn’t say Eichman wasn’t Gestapo in my above post by saying WHETHER OR NOT. Whether or not = irrelevant to what we’re talking about. Few weeks ago I was wrong on saying he wasn’t (after Cid said the same). You corrected us. Again, WHETHER OR NOT Eichman’s SS dept was considered part of the Gestapo (it was as you pointed out) is irrelvant to someone ignoring 2 of the 3 biggest outbreaks of the last 60 years.

You did in the COVID Death count thread. Interesting that you didn’t own up to it. Interesting...

Btw, now you may feel how we all do when you have to belabor the point and constantly correct every little thing.
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[JohnStOnge]

Mario there is ignorant of history. He left off the Asian Flu and the Hong Kong Flu.

1957-1958 Asian Flu (came from China)
CDC estimated killed 116,000 Americans out of a population about 175 million, equivalent to about 220,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

1968-1970 Hong Kong Flu (came from China).
CDC estimate killed about 100,000 Americans out of a population of about 200 million, equivalent to about 165,000 out of today’s population of 329 million.

https://weather.com/health/cold-flu/new ... nt-history
https://www.multpl.com/united-states-po ... le/by-year

Remember that those numbers for the Asian flu and the Hong Kong flu are estimates. Those estimates substantially exceed the number of actual counted deaths related to those pandemics. What we are dealing with now with COVID-19 are counts. At some point, after it's all over, the CDC will produce an estimate of COVID-19 deaths and the estimated number is going to be a lot bigger than the count. I don't think the difference is going to be as big as it is for the flu. But I think it's going to be substantial.

My bet would be that, in the end, this pandemic will be seen as having caused more deaths in both absolute and per capita terms in the United States than either the Asian flu or the Hong Kong flu did.

Also, this has only been going on for about four months. Things have slowed down some as summer has moved in but we are still averaging around 1,000 deaths per day. The Spanish, Asian, and Hong Kong flu pandemics all had multiple peaks. Looks to me like most experts think this one will as well. All indications are there is a long way to go.