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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 5:18 am "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

I know conservatives like to throw out this quote when they fantasize about overthrowing the fed, but in reality, it rarely applies to the complete take down of the US. Sometimes only a reminder is necessary.

I can't condone violence, but I can't blame the protestors for watering the tree either. It's a bit dry right now.
Just like there are bad elements in the police force. There are bad elements using the protest as a diversion to clean out pharmacies and liquor stores and anything they can steal to make money on. There have been a lot of sightings of out of state vehicles the last few days.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 10:16 pm How fast would a civilian get arrested and charged if they were caught on tape killing someone?
Depends.

If it's a white civilian killing a black jogger is south Georgia it could take months.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 5:18 am "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Jefferson

I know conservatives like to throw out this quote when they fantasize about overthrowing the fed, but in reality, it rarely applies to the complete take down of the US. Sometimes only a reminder is necessary.

I can't condone violence, but I can't blame the protestors for watering the tree either. It's a bit dry right now.
Nothing says sticking it to da man like burning subsidized housing, small businesses (including a sports bar a black firefighter spent his life savings on), and stealing flat-screen TVs.
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Re: Here We Go Again (Minneapolis, MN)

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Pwns wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 5:52 amNothing says sticking it to da man like burning subsidized housing, small businesses (including a sports bar a black firefighter spent his life savings on), and stealing flat-screen TVs.
Eh, there will always be collateral in conflict. Happened during the Revolution, happened during the riots of 67, will happen here.

It doesn't divert from the overall point: people are angry, frustrated, poor, sick and tired of corruption in the US.

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As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action...They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government...
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Largest protest is said to happen today at 2pm.
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What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.
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kalm wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:32 am What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.
The curfew worked like a "NO Guns Allowed" sign at a mass shooting. Protests in most major cities around the country. CNN was under siege in Atlanta, White House was surrounded. More military called into Minneapolis/St Paul.
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kalm wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:32 am What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.
Just black people fighting for their rights in the Americas.

Ya know...the usual stuff for the 528 years since Columbus brought his slaves over.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:10 am
Pwns wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 5:52 amNothing says sticking it to da man like burning subsidized housing, small businesses (including a sports bar a black firefighter spent his life savings on), and stealing flat-screen TVs.
Eh, there will always be collateral in conflict. Happened during the Revolution, happened during the riots of 67, will happen here.

It doesn't divert from the overall point: people are angry, frustrated, poor, sick and tired of corruption in the US.

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As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action...They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government...
Nothing you intentionally target is collateral damage. The 1773 equivalent would be the colonists burning a tavern that sells non-British tea because they just happened to be in their neighborhood. Your problem is trying to ascribe rationality to a heap of thugs.

And these are the same idiots will complain about how "systemic racism" is the reason grocery store chains and businesses don't want to open in minority neighborhoods.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:39 am
kalm wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:32 am What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.
Just black people fighting for their rights in the Americas.

Ya know...the usual stuff for the 528 years since Columbus brought his slaves over.
The Minnesota protest had a good mix of all races marching down the street in Minneapolis.
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Minnesota Governor is on talking about the out of town instigators. Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today. Even larger than the group that marched thru Georgia with General Sherman.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:05 am
∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:39 am

Just black people fighting for their rights in the Americas.

Ya know...the usual stuff for the 528 years since Columbus brought his slaves over.
The Minnesota protest had a good mix of all races marching down the street in Minneapolis.
That's the beauty of it; it's become more than Floyd's death. People of all creeds are frustrated.

Summer to November is going to be fun, and November to January is gonna be off the charts. After January, who knows.

Stay safe everyone. :kisswink:
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Even Flaggy is frustrated.

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40 people arrested last night, all from out of town.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 8:23 am 40 people arrested last night, all from out of town.
Soros had to order more checks.

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Oops...Trip gets busted. :lol:

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I've never come into contact with anyone from Antifa, and I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here. I'm convinced there's no real organization to it, just small pockets who "fight" under a movement with undefined or loose goals.

It's definitely a fantastic boogeyman for the right though.
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∞∞∞ wrote:I've never come into contact with anyone from Antifa, and I'm probably as deep into left-wing networks as anyone here. I'm convinced there's no real organization to it, just small pockets who "fight" under a movement with undefined or loose goals.

It's definitely a fantastic boogeyman for the right though.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:10 am
Pwns wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 5:52 amNothing says sticking it to da man like burning subsidized housing, small businesses (including a sports bar a black firefighter spent his life savings on), and stealing flat-screen TVs.
Eh, there will always be collateral in conflict. Happened during the Revolution, happened during the riots of 67, will happen here.

It doesn't divert from the overall point: people are angry, frustrated, poor, sick and tired of corruption in the US.

MLK:
As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action...They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government...
It proves the overall point: A bunch of mostly younger people want to use any excuse they can to loot and destroy property. To them, breaking, burning, and free stuff is awesome. I figured you’d make excuses for them.
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∞∞∞ wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:39 am
kalm wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 6:32 am What happened last night? I was super busy with the first warm evening of the year, drinking Buffalo Trace, and watching the stars come out.
Just black people fighting for their rights in the Americas.

Ya know...the usual stuff for the 528 years since Columbus brought his slaves over.
Yeah smashing windows, looting stores, and burning cars and buildings is fighting for you’re rights.. :dunce:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:17 am Minnesota Governor is on talking about the out of town instigators. Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today. Even larger than the group that marched thru Georgia with General Sherman.
Lol not even remotely close. What idiot in the government or media said that? Sherman had around 60k in his Army on his March through Georgia.

The mayor said the Minneapolis PD has 800. The entire MN State Police are less than 1k (and they can’t all be in MSP). The entire MN Nat Guard has apparently has 13.2k with 2.4k ‘activated ready to mobilize’.
https://kttc.com/2020/05/30/largest-dep ... a-history/
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:07 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:17 am Minnesota Governor is on talking about the out of town instigators. Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today. Even larger than the group that marched thru Georgia with General Sherman.
Lol not even remotely close. What idiot in the government or media said that? Sherman had around 60k in his Army on his March through Georgia.

The mayor said the Minneapolis PD has 800. The entire MN State Police are less than 1k (and they can’t all be in MSP). The entire MN Nat Guard has apparently has 13.2k with 2.4k ‘activated ready to mobilize’.
https://kttc.com/2020/05/30/largest-dep ... a-history/
How many of Sherman's 60k were from Minnesota? That's the number they're talking about this force being larger than. Reading comprehension is essential.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:07 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 7:17 am Minnesota Governor is on talking about the out of town instigators. Largest force in Minnesota history is being deployed today. Even larger than the group that marched thru Georgia with General Sherman.
Lol not even remotely close. What idiot in the government or media said that? Sherman had around 60k in his Army on his March through Georgia.

The mayor said the Minneapolis PD has 800. The entire MN State Police are less than 1k (and they can’t all be in MSP). The entire MN Nat Guard has apparently has 13.2k with 2.4k ‘activated ready to mobilize’.
https://kttc.com/2020/05/30/largest-dep ... a-history/
I added the Shetman part to rule up some rebs.
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