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Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:15 am
Ivytalk wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:09 am

Gil, what’s gotten into you? You’ve adopted the JSO trope of repeating yourself. :lol:

But, hey, keep hoisting the banner of the Walter Mondale wing of the Democrats.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:48 pm
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Well one thing they didn’t do, and that was burn down and loot their own communities.
Confederates did burn their crops and some cities. But WHY BLM is burning and looting - it really isn't any comparison. Ones to prevent material from falling into your enemies hands. The other is because your feelings are hurt and you want some new Jordans.

It has nothing to do with justice. Not a damn thing.
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Ivytalk wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:56 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:15 am

Following Charlton Heston's path of conservatives participating in civil rights.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:48 pm

Well one thing they didn’t do, and that was burn down and loot their own communities.
Confederates did burn their crops and some cities. But WHY BLM is burning and looting - it really isn't any comparison. Ones to prevent material from falling into your enemies hands. The other is because your feelings are hurt and you want some new Jordans.

It has nothing to do with justice. Not a damn thing.
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That “new Jordans” bit is epic!
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:48 pm

Well one thing they didn’t do, and that was burn down and loot their own communities.
Confederates did burn their crops and some cities. But WHY BLM is burning and looting - it really isn't any comparison. Ones to prevent material from falling into your enemies hands. The other is because your feelings are hurt and you want some new Jordans.

It has nothing to do with justice. Not a damn thing.
White men burned Atlanta and much of the south. Because they won the war, they were not considered looters and rioters.

Sherman's soldiers stole food and livestock and burned the houses and barns of people who tried to fight back. I bet it wasn't just food and livestock that they stole either.
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Ibanez wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am
Confederates did burn their crops and some cities. But WHY BLM is burning and looting - it really isn't any comparison. Ones to prevent material from falling into your enemies hands. The other is because your feelings are hurt and you want some new Jordans.

It has nothing to do with justice. Not a damn thing.
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Go, Ngo, go!

Or is it Ngo, go, Ngo? :?
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SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Is she in Portland or Beijing?
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I wonder if Pittsburgh business owners will help re-elect a mayor who won’t deal with shenanigans downtown, but draws the line at protesters at his house?


https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2 ... ide-house/

Protesters are on to something here - it is mayors, city councils, and city managers who are ultimately to blame for police departments that cannot get rid of their bad eggs. And - they are the ones who push for “quality of life” policing and all the other Mickey Mouse shit that police are asked to do, which ultimately results in unnecessary encounters with minority populations.

Now these mayors and councilcritters are reaping what they have sown.


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SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm
Ibanez wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:58 am
Confederates did burn their crops and some cities. But WHY BLM is burning and looting - it really isn't any comparison. Ones to prevent material from falling into your enemies hands. The other is because your feelings are hurt and you want some new Jordans.

It has nothing to do with justice. Not a damn thing.
Spot on.
Yep. Civil War comparisons to this are just plain :dunce: .
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm

Spot on.
Yep. Civil War comparisons to this are just plain :dunce: .
Someone responded to a meme and said they didn't loot, I responded that they did and there is plenty of history to back it up.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am
SDHornet wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:08 pm

Spot on.
Yep. Civil War comparisons to this are just plain :dunce: .
Looks like Black Lives Matter at JMU

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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:38 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am
Yep. Civil War comparisons to this are just plain :dunce: .
Looks like Black Lives Matter at JMU

[img]https://www.jmu.edu/_images/JMU-NAACP-march-lead.jpg[/img
So a months old pic of a 100 or so people at a university of around 22k has exactly what to do with your :dunce: Civil War comparisons?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:45 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:38 am

Looks like Black Lives Matter at JMU

[img]https://www.jmu.edu/_images/JMU-NAACP-march-lead.jpg[/img
So a months old pic of a 100 or so people at a university of around 22k has exactly what to do with your :dunce: Civil War comparisons?
Isn't this thread about protest?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 am Yep. Civil War comparisons to this are just plain :dunce: .
Someone responded to a meme and said they didn't loot, I responded that they did and there is plenty of history to back it up.
It is a dumb debate to begin with. Looting is as much a part of warfare as shooting. It has happened in every war in history and will happen in every war in the future. Some of it sanctioned, some of it is not (straggling, bummers). It is even lawful in warfare.

But drawing some kind of nexus between the foraging of an army on foot and civilians looting other civilians during civil unrest is a dumb debate


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CID1990 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:45 am
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Someone responded to a meme and said they didn't loot, I responded that they did and there is plenty of history to back it up.
It is a dumb debate to begin with. Looting is as much a part of warfare as shooting. It has happened in every war in history and will happen in every war in the future. Some of it sanctioned, some of it is not (straggling, bummers). It is even lawful in warfare.

But drawing some kind of nexus between the foraging of an army on foot and civilians looting other civilians during civil unrest is a dumb debate


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I understand what you are saying, I'm talking about the looting during the civil unrest during the civil war. It included but wasn't always soldiers.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:03 pm
CID1990 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:45 am
It is a dumb debate to begin with. Looting is as much a part of warfare as shooting. It has happened in every war in history and will happen in every war in the future. Some of it sanctioned, some of it is not (straggling, bummers). It is even lawful in warfare.

But drawing some kind of nexus between the foraging of an army on foot and civilians looting other civilians during civil unrest is a dumb debate


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I understand what you are saying, I'm talking about the looting during the civil unrest during the civil war. It included but wasn't always soldiers.
Boy thats a pretty narrow, specific distinction, Gil. :lol:
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:25 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:03 pm

I understand what you are saying, I'm talking about the looting during the civil unrest during the civil war. It included but wasn't always soldiers.
Boy thats a pretty narrow, specific distinction, Gil. :lol:
This has nothing to do about the thread, and all to do with your response that nobody looted and burned down their own cities during the civil war. I can find hundreds of instances where people burned a looted during the civil war. Burned parts of their own cities. The James Younger gang and it wasn't soldiers foraging for food and supplies. It was just a meme, either you like it or you don't.
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Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:42 pm
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:25 pm

Boy thats a pretty narrow, specific distinction, Gil. :lol:
This has nothing to do about the thread, and all to do with your response that nobody looted and burned down their own cities during the civil war. I can find hundreds of instances where people burned a looted during the civil war. Burned parts of their own cities. The James Younger gang and it wasn't soldiers foraging for food and supplies. It was just a meme, either you like it or you don't.
Fine. I was wrong. They DID burn and loot during the Civil war. Are you saying we’re at war then? Is that how you’re justifying this current burning and looting?

Because THAT burning and looting was done in an attempt to survive. This? Mmmmmm....not so much.

Unless we are at war....
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:45 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:42 pm

This has nothing to do about the thread, and all to do with your response that nobody looted and burned down their own cities during the civil war. I can find hundreds of instances where people burned a looted during the civil war. Burned parts of their own cities. The James Younger gang and it wasn't soldiers foraging for food and supplies. It was just a meme, either you like it or you don't.
Fine. I was wrong. They DID burn and loot during the Civil war. Are you saying we’re at war then? Is that how you’re justifying this current burning and looting?

Because THAT burning and looting was done in an attempt to survive. This? Mmmmmm....not so much.

Unless we are at war....
Rioters and looters should be put in jail and pay for the damages. Protesters not so much.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:45 pm
Gil Dobie wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:42 pm
This has nothing to do about the thread, and all to do with your response that nobody looted and burned down their own cities during the civil war. I can find hundreds of instances where people burned a looted during the civil war. Burned parts of their own cities. The James Younger gang and it wasn't soldiers foraging for food and supplies. It was just a meme, either you like it or you don't.
Fine. I was wrong. They DID burn and loot during the Civil war. Are you saying we’re at war then? Is that how you’re justifying this current burning and looting?

Because THAT burning and looting was done in an attempt to survive. This? Mmmmmm....not so much.

Unless we are at war....
We're not at war. The mayor of Portland and DA need to step up and do something - establish a curfew, give the police a longer leash and actually prosecute rioters and looters.
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Major Downtown Property Owner Urges City Council to Address “Lawlessness You Are Endorsing Downtown”
"Their departure has absolutely nothing to do with [the] Black Lives Matter movement (which has been a positive), but does have most everything to do with the lawlessness you are endorsing downtown," Goodman writes. "I suggest all of you walk downtown and when you see a shop or business that is open and not boarded up, stop in and talk to the owner or worker."
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Portland being Portland. Still waiting on an answer on whether or not this rioting is all still Trumps fault.



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