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Wow. Absolutely brilliant.

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At least no one is being killed now in Afghanistan. Biden said so.
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Another fantastic press conference by Joe Biden, flanked by Kamalamala and Tony Squintin. Among other things, we learned what a terrific job our NATO allies think Biden’s team is doing in this crisis, and that we can continue to monitor the terrorist situation “over the horizon.” You just can’t make this shyt up. :ohno:
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This is without doubt the greatest presidential blunder in my lifetime.
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Ivytalk wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:02 pm Another fantastic press conference by Joe Biden, flanked by Kamalamala and Tony Squintin. Among other things, we learned what a terrific job our NATO allies think Biden’s team is doing in this crisis, and that we can continue to monitor the terrorist situation “over the horizon.” You just can’t make this shyt up. :ohno:
I listened in on NPR while in the car. I try not to listen to Presidents speak anymore, it's just painful listening to politicians try to answer questions. This one was no different - Biden sounded like a soon to be octogenarian who was having difficulty keeping up with the conversation in the room and not always able to remember the canned answer he was supposed to give. You'd think they could let him use a teleprompter after each question so that the folks in the back room could clearly communicate what the answer should be. All I got from this was that this is bad, really bad, and no one's really in charge anymore. I'm sure our allies were more than comforted with this next try to make everything okay. :ohno:
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CAA Flagship wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:16 am
houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 4:58 am

Profits?
Maybe. I'm trying to figure out why anyone would go there in the first place. :?
where is there a better profit than drugs and weapons?
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:35 pm Wow. Absolutely brilliant.

Last year we pulled out 12,500 of the 15,000 troops there - what did this fuckwit think was going to happen?
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Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:31 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:38 pm
But Milley also said beforehand the same stupidity Biden said- the not inevitable & not a foregone conclusion. For saying that alone he should be shitcanned..
And those are relative points. I still think the Generals were overruled and had their hands tied behind their backs.

The problem isn't Gen. Milley, per se. It's Biden. If Biden is going to overrule the brass here...he's going to do it again with a new set of advisors and generals. So...before kicking them to the curb let's find the REAL problem...and something tells me it's not solely on the military and Intel communities...their CiC is ordering bad decisions. :twocents: I think you can pretty much agree to that.
there aren't any good ones, we "negotiated" away pretty much everything last year - released 5,000 fighters, and let the guy who is the new head of state go scot-free. The one thing Biden has going for him is that the public wants the fuck out of the Forever War and they want out now
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Look at this clown try to spin…
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houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:20 pm
Ibanez wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:31 am
And those are relative points. I still think the Generals were overruled and had their hands tied behind their backs.

The problem isn't Gen. Milley, per se. It's Biden. If Biden is going to overrule the brass here...he's going to do it again with a new set of advisors and generals. So...before kicking them to the curb let's find the REAL problem...and something tells me it's not solely on the military and Intel communities...their CiC is ordering bad decisions. :twocents: I think you can pretty much agree to that.
there aren't any good ones, we "negotiated" away pretty much everything last year - released 5,000 fighters, and let the guy who is the new head of state go scot-free. The one thing Biden has going for him is that the public wants the fuck out of the Forever War and they want out now
Yes, but the public also doesn't want the country to get embarrassed on the way out like Biden* has allowed to happen.
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Ivytalk wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 2:02 pm Another fantastic press conference by Joe Biden, flanked by Kamalamala and Tony Squintin. Among other things, we learned what a terrific job our NATO allies think Biden’s team is doing in this crisis, and that we can continue to monitor the terrorist situation “over the horizon.” You just can’t make this shyt up. :ohno:
Pretty much everyone in his admin publicly contradicted Bidens* presser. I wonder how long Biden* lasts. :popcorn:





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houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:10 pm
SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:35 pm Wow. Absolutely brilliant.

Last year we pulled out 12,500 of the 15,000 troops there - what did this fuckwit think was going to happen?
President Joe Biden told key allies in June that he would maintain enough of a security presence in Afghanistan to ensure they could continue to operate in the capital following the main U.S. withdrawal, a vow made before the Taliban’s rapid final push across the country, according to a British diplomatic memo seen by Bloomberg.

Biden promised U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson and other leaders at the Group of Seven summit in Cornwall, England, that “critical U.S. enablers” would remain in place to keep Kabul safe following the drawdown of NATO forces, the note said. British officials determined the U.S. would provide enough personnel to ensure that the U.K. embassy in Kabul could continue operating.
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SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:31 pm
houndawg wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:20 pm

there aren't any good ones, we "negotiated" away pretty much everything last year - released 5,000 fighters, and let the guy who is the new head of state go scot-free. The one thing Biden has going for him is that the public wants the fuck out of the Forever War and they want out now
Yes, but the public also doesn't want the country to get embarrassed on the way out like Biden* has allowed to happen.
Nor dead citizens or those that helped us winding up in pieces all over twitter. When that happens (and it will) then the real mud slinging will start. Going on vacation or not being available for comments is not going to cut the mustard.
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Even Osama Bin Laden knew Joe was a screw up.
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Winterborn wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:03 am
SDHornet wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:31 pm

Yes, but the public also doesn't want the country to get embarrassed on the way out like Biden* has allowed to happen.
Nor dead citizens or those that helped us winding up in pieces all over twitter. When that happens (and it will) then the real mud slinging will start. Going on vacation or not being available for comments is not going to cut the mustard.
For Biden being available for comments doesn’t cut it either. Pure delusion comes out of his mouth that his spokespeople are left srambling to try and spin.
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Does anyone else get the idea that whoever is really pulling the strings behind the scenes not only feels it's time for Grandpa Badfinger to go, but to be tarnished forever as the incompetent he is?

Wonder who that would be. Maybe someone who could never bring themselves to say they actually liked America?
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Even Robin Williams knew Biden was a screw up.

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Winterborn wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:03 am Nor dead citizens or those that helped us winding up in pieces all over twitter. When that happens (and it will) then the real mud slinging will start. Going on vacation or not being available for comments is not going to cut the mustard.
For Biden being available for comments doesn’t cut it either. Pure delusion comes out of his mouth that his spokespeople are left srambling to try and spin.
It isn’t delusion - he is either being lied to by the people around him or he is lying himself. The latest presser was literally a long string of whoppers.

There was like 6 months of Trump whoppers packed into the last week

They aren’t being careful about it either -


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For all of those who say Trump was a big liar, Biden to Trump: Hold my beer.”
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Americans being warned to stay away from Kabul airport due to ISIS threat.
https://news.yahoo.com/isis-threat-prom ... 10960.html
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BDKJMU wrote:Now Americans being warned to stay away from Kabul airport due to ISIS threat.
https://news.yahoo.com/isis-threat-prom ... 10960.html
The reporting on ISIS-Khorasan intentions got declassified yesterday. Actually it wasn’t declassified. The tearline was scrubbed to the point that it could be made U//FOUO. Our rep from another agency came in and briefed me

You will never believe why it happened that way

And I can’t tell you... at least not until it goes open source


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CID1990 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:33 pm
BDKJMU wrote:Now Americans being warned to stay away from Kabul airport due to ISIS threat.
https://news.yahoo.com/isis-threat-prom ... 10960.html
The reporting on ISIS-Khorasan intentions got declassified yesterday. Actually it wasn’t declassified. The tearline was scrubbed to the point that it could be made U//FOUO. Our rep from another agency came in and briefed me

You will never believe why it happened that way

And I can’t tell you... at least not until it goes open source


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It makes me feel much better that the president is "laser focused" and was prepared for this failure. :?

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AZGrizFan wrote:
CID1990 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:33 pm The reporting on ISIS-Khorasan intentions got declassified yesterday. Actually it wasn’t declassified. The tearline was scrubbed to the point that it could be made U//FOUO. Our rep from another agency came in and briefed me

You will never believe why it happened that way

And I can’t tell you... at least not until it goes open source


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That’s just wrong. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
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