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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:21 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:01 am Didn’t know what happened during the end of the game with the clock. I wknew I wasn’t drunk. 2:55 left after 2nd down play/3rd down coming up, JMU got ball back with :55 left. Da Fuq? :suspicious:
Probably woukdn’t have changed the outcome, but would have been nice to find out with 28 more seconds on final possession. Don’t understand how that could have happened and booth official not noticed.


Edit: The officials probably should have called JMU on a 2nd half horse collar on that return and an interference on a pass play. And I think the officilas botched the clock on NDSU’s 2 pt conversion so they had to settle for 1. I don’t get the incompetence.
Agree. The refs were from the SoCon I believe and were over their head all game.Bunch of missed or botched calls on both sides. And that final runoff of the time was a real WTF. They (the refs noticed it) but for some reason didn't do anything about it.

As for our botched 2pt conversion, Entz was on the field (about a 1/3 of the distance between the sidelines and hash marks) at around 5/6 or so seconds and couldn't get their attention to call a timeout to avoid the penalty.
JMU lost because of couldn’t stop #44, 2 INTs, and pre snap mistakes, in that order. But the 28 seconds lost clock thing significantly reduced their chance to score at the end. 66 yds to go in :55 vs 1:23, last play 3rd and 13 from the NDSU 45, snapped with about 6 sec left vs :34. Instead of trying to get hail mary off would have been different call to try to get another 1st down, anywhere from 1 to 4 more plays.

If Cignetti didn’t say anything about it after the game then I assume he wasn’t asked, and didn’t want to bring it up himself. Cignetti has shitty clock managemwnt, but apparently he was aware of it when it was happening, as I saw claims on the JMU board that he was screaming at the officials.
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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Who was that DB from NDSU who made that ONE HAND SNATCH????
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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Could go on the Sunbelt thread, but seeing as how it relates to what happened during the JMU/NDSU game, and happened on ESPN2 about a 1/2 hr into the JMU/NDSU game when ESPN2 was suppose to be televising JMU/NDSU. This may be worse than the :28 second runoff, as this robbed NIU of a potential game winning play at CCU’s 8 yd line, and these offenses apparently were marching up and down the field:
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NIU’s HC must be WAY over 400 lbs. He waddled out onto the field after the final snap about to blow a gasket at the officials over the clock. If I was watching that live I would have been afraid he was going to have a heart attack.
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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dal4018 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:02 am Who was that DB from NDSU who made that ONE HAND SNATCH????
Destin Talbert.

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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 am
Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:21 am

Agree. The refs were from the SoCon I believe and were over their head all game.Bunch of missed or botched calls on both sides. And that final runoff of the time was a real WTF. They (the refs noticed it) but for some reason didn't do anything about it.

As for our botched 2pt conversion, Entz was on the field (about a 1/3 of the distance between the sidelines and hash marks) at around 5/6 or so seconds and couldn't get their attention to call a timeout to avoid the penalty.
JMU lost because of couldn’t stop #44, 2 INTs, and pre snap mistakes, in that order. But the 28 seconds lost clock thing significantly reduced their chance to score at the end. 66 yds to go in :55 vs 1:23, last play 3rd and 13 from the NDSU 45, snapped with about 6 sec left vs :34. Instead of trying to get hail mary off would have been different call to try to get another 1st down, anywhere from 1 to 4 more plays.

If Cignetti didn’t say anything about it after the game then I assume he wasn’t asked, and didn’t want to bring it up himself. Cignetti has shitty clock managemwnt, but apparently he was aware of it when it was happening, as I saw claims on the JMU board that he was screaming at the officials.
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The officials were getting yelled at alot. As for shitty clock management so does Entz. In your case burning those 2 timeout's early was a bit of a head scratcher.

#44 (Hunter Luepke) was a beast last night. His legs have to be a bit sore today.
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 amCignetti has shitty clock management
I don't know if this applies, but I was watching an NFL game earlier this week where analytics led to extremely poor clock management as exhibited by an extreme failure to kick field goals on fourth down inside the red zone, a deficiency that directly led to the loss of the game. Would that have had anything to do with the failed clock management in the JMU-NDSU game? A lack of cable led me to watch SmackDown rather than this game, unfortunately....
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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SuperHornet wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:30 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 amCignetti has shitty clock management
I don't know if this applies, but I was watching an NFL game earlier this week where analytics led to extremely poor clock management as exhibited by an extreme failure to kick field goals on fourth down inside the red zone, a deficiency that directly led to the loss of the game. Would that have had anything to do with the failed clock management in the JMU-NDSU game? A lack of cable led me to watch SmackDown rather than this game, unfortunately....
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:28 am
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:53 am

JMU lost because of couldn’t stop #44, 2 INTs, and pre snap mistakes, in that order. But the 28 seconds lost clock thing significantly reduced their chance to score at the end. 66 yds to go in :55 vs 1:23, last play 3rd and 13 from the NDSU 45, snapped with about 6 sec left vs :34. Instead of trying to get hail mary off would have been different call to try to get another 1st down, anywhere from 1 to 4 more plays.

If Cignetti didn’t say anything about it after the game then I assume he wasn’t asked, and didn’t want to bring it up himself. Cignetti has shitty clock managemwnt, but apparently he was aware of it when it was happening, as I saw claims on the JMU board that he was screaming at the officials.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb ... ar-AARWNVE
The officials were getting yelled at alot. As for shitty clock management so does Entz. In your case burning those 2 timeout's early was a bit of a head scratcher.

#44 (Hunter Luepke) was a beast last night. His legs have to be a bit sore today.
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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Gil Dobie wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:33 am
Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:28 am

The officials were getting yelled at alot. As for shitty clock management so does Entz. In your case burning those 2 timeout's early was a bit of a head scratcher.

#44 (Hunter Luepke) was a beast last night. His legs have to be a bit sore today.
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Winterborn wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:01 am Didn’t know what happened during the end of the game with the clock. I wknew I wasn’t drunk. 2:55 left after 2nd down play/3rd down coming up, JMU got ball back with :55 left. Da Fuq? :suspicious:
Probably woukdn’t have changed the outcome, but would have been nice to find out with 28 more seconds on final possession. Don’t understand how that could have happened and booth official not noticed.


Edit: The officials probably should have called JMU on a 2nd half horse collar on that return and an interference on a pass play. And I think the officilas botched the clock on NDSU’s 2 pt conversion so they had to settle for 1. I don’t get the incompetence.
Agree. The refs were from the SoCon I believe and were over their head all game.Bunch of missed or botched calls on both sides. And that final runoff of the time was a real WTF. They (the refs noticed it) but for some reason didn't do anything about it.

As for our botched 2pt conversion, Entz was on the field (about a 1/3 of the distance between the sidelines and hash marks) at around 5/6 or so seconds and couldn't get their attention to call a timeout to avoid the penalty.
SoCon refs are awful.

I’m glad they got some exposure


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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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CID1990 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:00 am
Winterborn wrote:
Agree. The refs were from the SoCon I believe and were over their head all game.Bunch of missed or botched calls on both sides. And that final runoff of the time was a real WTF. They (the refs noticed it) but for some reason didn't do anything about it.

As for our botched 2pt conversion, Entz was on the field (about a 1/3 of the distance between the sidelines and hash marks) at around 5/6 or so seconds and couldn't get their attention to call a timeout to avoid the penalty.
SoCon refs are awful.

I’m glad they got some exposure


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Only thing is I think they might be reffing the championship game. :ohno:

Hopefully it is a different crew though.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:00 am
CID1990 wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:00 am
SoCon refs are awful.

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Only thing is I think they might be reffing the championship game. :ohno:

Hopefully it is a different crew though.
I heard Bill Fette is in the replay booth. :thumb:
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Re: SF - #3 JMU @ #2 North Dakota St. (Friday)

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kalm wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:45 pm
Winterborn wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:00 am

Only thing is I think they might be reffing the championship game. :ohno:

Hopefully it is a different crew though.
I heard Bill Fette is in the replay booth. :thumb:
That will not help me decrease my gametime drinking. :lol:
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Winterborn wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:48 am
kalm wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:45 pm

I heard Bill Fette is in the replay booth. :thumb:
That will not help me decrease my gametime drinking. :lol:
Why would you want to?
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dbackjon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:52 am
Winterborn wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:48 am

That will not help me decrease my gametime drinking. :lol:
Why would you want to?
Valid point. :thumb: :clap:
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Gil Dobie wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:05 pm
Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:24 am
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It was one hell of a catch. I still can't believe he jumped that high. :shock:
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Montana St might have the best defense the Bison have faced. Touchdown Tommy is on fire, and Southern Montana speed.
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Winterborn wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:24 am
dal4018 wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:02 am Who was that DB from NDSU who made that ONE HAND SNATCH????
Destin Talbert.

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He just put himself on the NFL MAP with this display of athletic ability!!!!
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Semi-final recap

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The YouTube version of Gil's post.

At the 5:06 mark is the catch that was mentioned above.



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Barrowed this from AGS. How about those Montana State Griz!

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Gil Dobie wrote: Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:11 pm Barrowed this from AGS. How about those Montana State Griz!

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This literally happens to them every single time. :lol:
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