The Ukraine Crisis

[Winterborn]

Badass if true.

That and the Ukes telling the Russian warship to "Go fuck yourselves."

Also, apparently the President is on the streets ready to fight alongside civilians. If true, then impressive. I wouldn't expect any POTUS or legislator in the last 30-40 years to have the balls to do that.

Well if we would quite electing people that have one foot in the grave it might help.

BTW: There are several in congress that know what the business end of a rifle is. Mostly from flyover states.

[houndawg]

Russian citizens protesting the Soviet invasion of the Ukraine are getting sent to the gulag....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-rea ... 19034.html

That's just Putin following the lead of Treadeau.

lol....every one of those Russians has ten times the balls of the trucking cunts who wouldn't have showed up except that somebody else paid for their fuel.

[SuperHornet]

Per ABC7 this morning, the Sovs sent a warship to demand the surrender of Snake Island, owned by the Ukraine. The guards' response?

"Go [bleep] yourself!" They paid for that impudence with their lives, but one has to admire the cheek when clearly overpowered.

[houndawg]

Per ABC7 this morning, the Sovs sent a warship to demand the surrender of Snake Island, owned by the Ukraine. The guards' response?

"Go [bleep] yourself!" They paid for that impudence with their lives, but one has to admire the cheek when clearly overpowered.

[BDKJMU]

Per ABC7 this morning, the Sovs sent a warship to demand the surrender of Snake Island, owned by the Ukraine. The guards' response?

"Go [bleep] yourself!" They paid for that impudence with their lives, but one has to admire the cheek when clearly overpowered.

Try and keep up.
https://www.championshipsubdivision.com ... 3#p1396663

[Ibanez]

Tucker is such a choad. I'm embarrassed that I used to listen to him in the early 00's.


Trump never stood up to Putin, instead he just stroked him off told him how much he loved him. The entire world, independently would say Russia committed a hack and Trump would deflect blame. Trump might've not been a puppet but his lack of action and his praise was good news to Putin.

During the Trump admin, we were daily monitoring NordStream II. It was an administration priority. The Biden admin lifted all objections to it.

NSII, as we are now seeing, was a pretty big fucking deal.

Trump certainly expresses admiration for strongmen but every bit of the narrative about him being somehow beholden to Putin is demonstrably false. The Trump admin was significantly harder on Russia than the Biden admin is, even now.


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NS2 was a big deal, no doubt. What an even BIGGER deal is all the oil that flows through Ukraine. Didn't Biden lift objections b/c it was essentially complete and just going through certification/approval? I'm not sure what good objections are when the project is complete. Excuse me if I have the timeline a little backwards....

I don't think Trump was a puppet but I don't see Trump being hard on Russia. Was that before or after he'd give Russia a pass for election meddling or sponsoring cyber attacks? Was he being hard on Russia when he denied Ukraine money until they made bogus statements about Hillary - which they ultimately didn't and Trump eventually backed down? The hardest action against Russia, that I can recall, was the expulsion of diplomats following a UK attack.

[Ibanez]

That and the Ukes telling the Russian warship to "Go fuck yourselves."

Also, apparently the President is on the streets ready to fight alongside civilians. If true, then impressive. I wouldn't expect any POTUS or legislator in the last 30-40 years to have the balls to do that.

Well if we would quite electing people that have one foot in the grave it might help.

BTW: There are several in congress that know what the business end of a rifle is. Mostly from flyover states.

Tammy Duckworth might if she had the ability.... Dan Crenshaw as well. Maybe there are less than a dozen that would nut up and fight in the streets.
I see the Mayor of Kiev is getting into the fight.

[Ibanez]

Per ABC7 this morning, the Sovs sent a warship to demand the surrender of Snake Island, owned by the Ukraine. The guards' response?

"Go [bleep] yourself!" They paid for that impudence with their lives, but one has to admire the cheek when clearly overpowered.

Hey, did you hear that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor!?

[Skjellyfetti]

[Winterborn]

Well if we would quite electing people that have one foot in the grave it might help.

BTW: There are several in congress that know what the business end of a rifle is. Mostly from flyover states.

Tammy Duckworth might if she had the ability.... Dan Crenshaw as well. Maybe there are less than a dozen that would nut up and fight in the streets.
I see the Mayor of Kiev is getting into the fight.

Gil's flame, Tulsi Gabbard, also probably knows.

[Ibanez]

Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova said Thursday that a platoon of Russian soldiers surrendered to the Ukrainian military, saying they "didn't know that they were brought to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians."

At a press briefing, Markarova said, "Just before I came here, we got information from our chief commander that one of the platoons of the 74th motorized brigade from Kemerovo Oblast surrendered."

"They didn't know that they were brought to Ukraine to kill Ukrainians. They thought they were doing something else there," she added.

https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... -ukrainian

[UNI88]

How is Trump one of Putin’s useful idiots?

Is that a serious question? Trump has bobbed Putin’s knob for years.

We know Trump is an idiot, but is/was he useful?

[Ibanez]

Is that a serious question? Trump has bobbed Putin’s knob for years.

We know Trump is an idiot, but is/was he useful?

I think it all depends on your political lens. If you're moderate in any way, you might say he was just an idiot who by inaction and praise emboldened Putin.

The below pretty much sums up my opinion on the varying sides and their views:

Hard Right - Trump was the best thing since slice bread and he's the hero we need! MAGA! See BDK for reference.
Hard Left - TRUMP WAS AWFUL AND A PUPPET! PUTINS' HAND IS STILL UP HIS BUTT! #IMPEACH45 .See DBack for reference
Moderates - Trump was an idiot and a known con man. He did some good, some bad. He should've kept his mouth shut and not surrounded himself with sycophant's. Putin probably didn't know what to make of him b/c he was sucking up to dictators like himself and Kim Jong, bashing NATO and throwing out wild conspiracies about everything from windmill cancer to bleach in your veins. See Uni88, Gannon and myself for reference.

[Ivytalk]

Is that a serious question? Trump has bobbed Putin’s knob for years.

We know Trump is an idiot, but is/was he useful?

Not at the Viktor Orban or Alexander Lukashenko level

[CAA Flagship]

How did Ukraine not set up a boat load of IEDs alongside roadways ala the Afghaqis? It certainly would slow the progression.

[Ibanez]

How did Ukraine not set up a boat load of IEDs alongside roadways ala the Afghaqis? It certainly would slow the progression.

Remember it was up to his week that they, publically, were saying an invasion wasn't coming. American and UK intel kept warning them.

[CAA Flagship]

How did Ukraine not set up a boat load of IEDs alongside roadways ala the Afghaqis? It certainly would slow the progression.

Remember it was up to his week that they, publically, were saying an invasion wasn't coming. American and UK intel kept warning them.

Well they could have made them ahead of time and set them when the bombing started. Hand out cellphones to citizens to activate them when they see them coming.

[Ibanez]

Remember it was up to his week that they, publically, were saying an invasion wasn't coming. American and UK intel kept warning them.

Well they could have made them ahead of time and set them when the bombing started. Hand out cellphones to citizens to activate them when they see them coming.

There's no time like the present. Guerilla warfare might be their best bet until they get some reinforcements from another country (if any).

[BDKJMU]

Well if we would quite electing people that have one foot in the grave it might help.

BTW: There are several in congress that know what the business end of a rifle is. Mostly from flyover states.

Tammy Duckworth might if she had the ability.... Dan Crenshaw as well. Maybe there are less than a dozen that would nut up and fight in the streets.
I see the Mayor of Kiev is getting into the fight.

Probably more than a doz. 91 have served military, mostly conks (63 conks/28 donks).
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... e-numbers/
In the Senate the 1st one that comes to mind is Tom Cotton (82nd Airborne).

In the House Crenshaw you mentioned. In PA we have conks Scott Perry (39 yrs Army/Nat Guard), and Guy Reschenthaler (Navy).

The county my buddy in Fl lives in (St Johns) borders Desantis’s old district, the 6th. That is now represented by Michael Waltz, VMI grad, 24 yrs Army active & guard, Ranger/Green Beret.

5 Seals running in 22’, all conks.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... e-america/

[BDKJMU]

We know Trump is an idiot, but is/was he useful?

I think it all depends on your political lens. If you're moderate in any way, you might say he was just an idiot who by inaction and praise emboldened Putin.

The below pretty much sums up my opinion on the varying sides and their views:

Hard Right - Trump was the best thing since slice bread and he's the hero we need! MAGA! See BDK for reference.
Hard Left - TRUMP WAS AWFUL AND A PUPPET! PUTINS' HAND IS STILL UP HIS BUTT! #IMPEACH45 .See DBack for reference
Moderates - Trump was an idiot and a known con man. He did some good, some bad. He should've kept his mouth shut and not surrounded himself with sycophant's. Putin probably didn't know what to make of him b/c he was sucking up to dictators like himself and Kim Jong, bashing NATO and throwing out wild conspiracies about everything from windmill cancer to bleach in your veins. See Uni88, Gannon and myself for reference.

[Ibanez]

Tammy Duckworth might if she had the ability.... Dan Crenshaw as well. Maybe there are less than a dozen that would nut up and fight in the streets.
I see the Mayor of Kiev is getting into the fight.

Probably more than a doz. 91 have served military, mostly conks (63 conks/28 donks).
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... e-numbers/
In the Senate the 1st one that comes to mind is Tom Cotton (82nd Airborne).

In the House Crenshaw you mentioned. In PA we have conks Scott Perry (39 yrs Army/Nat Guard), and Guy Reschenthaler (Navy).

The county my buddy in Fl lives in (St Johns) borders Desantis’s old district, the 6th. That is now represented by Michael Waltz, VMI grad, 24 yrs Army active & guard, Ranger/Green Beret.

5 Seals running in 22’, all conks.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... e-america/

They won't fight. There's no money in it for them. They'll put on some BDUs and flak jackets for a photo op, that's the extent of it.

[BDKJMU]

Well they could have made them ahead of time and set them when the bombing started. Hand out cellphones to citizens to activate them when they see them coming.

There's no time like the present. Guerilla warfare might be their best bet until they get some reinforcements from another country (if any).

100k + armed troops in Kiev. Literally force the ruskies to root them out house by house, building by building, block by block. Or course most will die and the city will be leveled, but inflict 100k plus casualties on the Russians.

[BDKJMU]

Biden could be goving a much stronger response. Starting with removing Russia from SWIFT, and putting sanctions on the Russian energy companies.

[BDKJMU]

Probably more than a doz. 91 have served military, mostly conks (63 conks/28 donks).
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... e-numbers/
In the Senate the 1st one that comes to mind is Tom Cotton (82nd Airborne).

In the House Crenshaw you mentioned. In PA we have conks Scott Perry (39 yrs Army/Nat Guard), and Guy Reschenthaler (Navy).

The county my buddy in Fl lives in (St Johns) borders Desantis’s old district, the 6th. That is now represented by Michael Waltz, VMI grad, 24 yrs Army active & guard, Ranger/Green Beret.

5 Seals running in 22’, all conks.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... e-america/

They won't fight. There's no money in it for them. They'll put on some BDUs and flak jackets for a photo op, that's the extent of it.

Uh, most of those guys have served multiple combat tours already

[Winterborn]

We know Trump is an idiot, but is/was he useful?

I think it all depends on your political lens. If you're moderate in any way, you might say he was just an idiot who by inaction and praise emboldened Putin.

The below pretty much sums up my opinion on the varying sides and their views:

Hard Right - Trump was the best thing since slice bread and he's the hero we need! MAGA! See BDK for reference.
Hard Left - TRUMP WAS AWFUL AND A PUPPET! PUTINS' HAND IS STILL UP HIS BUTT! #IMPEACH45 .See DBack for reference
Moderates - Trump was an idiot and a known con man. He did some good, some bad. He should've kept his mouth shut and not surrounded himself with sycophant's. Putin probably didn't know what to make of him b/c he was sucking up to dictators like himself and Kim Jong, bashing NATO and throwing out wild conspiracies about everything from windmill cancer to bleach in your veins. See Uni88, Gannon and myself for reference.

Trump's bashing of NATO is well deserved, IMHO. I would have done it more tactfully but if you, as a member country, are not living up to the agreement you signed, then they deserve to be called out over it. I am tired of footing the bill for countries that do not want to protect themselves. I have no problem with defense treaties, but all sides need to contribute. If they do not, well actions have consequences. And that might include your country getting steamrolled by an aggressive neighbor.

I do not see myself as a moderate and I am happy to be slightly right of center overall. Some issues I am more libertarian and others more conservative but it balances out to be about the above.

You, my drinking buddy, are about the same, just to the left (as is Gannon). Uni88 is the only true moderate here.