The Ukraine Crisis

[SeattleGriz]

Gotta love the "but these nazis are good ones" conundrum their 4+ years of calling everyone that disagrees with them a nazi has put themselves into.

SD… let me put this into terms that maybe you and SG can understand

Ukraine is a diverse country. Not as diverse as the US, but they have made great strides since 1943 when their government was happily rounding up Jews and shooting them in mass graves.

A lot like Germany, in fact - where they STILL have neo-Nazis. Just like Ukraine, just like Russia, hell, Mongolia actually has an SS right now! They do community cleanup and charity. And they sport the twin lightning.

We also have a few Nazis right here in the good ole USA.

The neo-Nazis in Ukraine are no more influential there than they are here. They are literally a fringe group. They were instrumental in the formation of the Azov Battalion but they no
longer hold sway there after the AB was folded into the regular Ukr military.

We are literally talking about a country that fairly elected a JEW as its President, after a revolution against Russian puppets which was fomented and fought by the AZOV BATTALION. In other words, Ukrainians who see the Azov Battalion as freedom fighters elected a Jew to their higher office.

I do not know why you and SG and the Qanoners Re so hung up on this. It REALLY is a bad look. Ukraine is not/not a belligerent country. Russia is. You are allowing yourself to be dangerously distracted bu some very tenuous conspiracy stuff.

You are being told this by someone who spent the last few years calling out the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA scam as a conspiracy theory, and who has been very recently an IC watch officer with a SCI clearance.

I am not bullshitting you when I say you and SG and anyone else on this board playing the “ukrainians are nazis” game are shilling for Czar Vlad. Open your eyes. Russia is literally leveling Ukraine. There is zero justification for it. It is a war of aggression and it may well lead to a world conflagration. Let’s not get hi g up on a Ukrainian militia unit. It sounds as ridiculous as killing millions over Gavrilo Princips’ aim.


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Victoria Nuland. You are drunk. Stop posting on Cids account.

State Department deserves absolutely NO respect.

Fucking hacks. Your record is in shambles. Don't lecture me.

[BDKJMU]

SD… let me put this into terms that maybe you and SG can understand

Ukraine is a diverse country. Not as diverse as the US, but they have made great strides since 1943 when their government was happily rounding up Jews and shooting them in mass graves.

A lot like Germany, in fact - where they STILL have neo-Nazis. Just like Ukraine, just like Russia, hell, Mongolia actually has an SS right now! They do community cleanup and charity. And they sport the twin lightning.

We also have a few Nazis right here in the good ole USA.

The neo-Nazis in Ukraine are no more influential there than they are here. They are literally a fringe group. They were instrumental in the formation of the Azov Battalion but they no
longer hold sway there after the AB was folded into the regular Ukr military.

We are literally talking about a country that fairly elected a JEW as its President, after a revolution against Russian puppets which was fomented and fought by the AZOV BATTALION. In other words, Ukrainians who see the Azov Battalion as freedom fighters elected a Jew to their higher office.

I do not know why you and SG and the Qanoners Re so hung up on this. It REALLY is a bad look. Ukraine is not/not a belligerent country. Russia is. You are allowing yourself to be dangerously distracted bu some very tenuous conspiracy stuff.

You are being told this by someone who spent the last few years calling out the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA scam as a conspiracy theory, and who has been very recently an IC watch officer with a SCI clearance.

I am not bullshitting you when I say you and SG and anyone else on this board playing the “ukrainians are nazis” game are shilling for Czar Vlad. Open your eyes. Russia is literally leveling Ukraine. There is zero justification for it. It is a war of aggression and it may well lead to a world conflagration. Let’s not get hi g up on a Ukrainian militia unit. It sounds as ridiculous as killing millions over Gavrilo Princips’ aim.


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Victoria Nuland. You are drunk. Stop posting on Cids account.

State Department deserves absolutely NO respect.

Fucking hacks. Your record is in shambles. Don't lecture me.

Speaking of drunk. 6? PM where you’re at. Isn’t it a little early to be

[SeattleGriz]

Victoria Nuland. You are drunk. Stop posting on Cids account.

State Department deserves absolutely NO respect.

Fucking hacks. Your record is in shambles. Don't lecture me.

Speaking of drunk. 6? PM where you’re at. Isn’t it a little early to be

No...Maybe.

Your mom, by the way.

Seriously, State Dept is a huge fuck up. Fucking refund button.

I believe CID is very smart and capable. I just don't believe who he works for, and to tell me what to think is comical.

Don't lecture me.

We've seen State Dept actions for years and it isn't a good look. Afghanistan? JFC.

[SDHornet]

The political elite started a proxy war to protect their money-laundering scheme in the Ukraine.

Or Trump convinced Putin to invade to prevent evidence of a Hunter/Ivanka/Don Jr. threesome weekend of debauchery in Kiev from becoming public.

I 'd. jelly might steal this for his megathread.

[SDHornet]

Gotta love the "but these nazis are good ones" conundrum their 4+ years of calling everyone that disagrees with them a nazi has put themselves into.

SD… let me put this into terms that maybe you and SG can understand

Ukraine is a diverse country. Not as diverse as the US, but they have made great strides since 1943 when their government was happily rounding up Jews and shooting them in mass graves.

A lot like Germany, in fact - where they STILL have neo-Nazis. Just like Ukraine, just like Russia, hell, Mongolia actually has an SS right now! They do community cleanup and charity. And they sport the twin lightning.

We also have a few Nazis right here in the good ole USA.

The neo-Nazis in Ukraine are no more influential there than they are here. They are literally a fringe group. They were instrumental in the formation of the Azov Battalion but they no
longer hold sway there after the AB was folded into the regular Ukr military.

We are literally talking about a country that fairly elected a JEW as its President, after a revolution against Russian puppets which was fomented and fought by the AZOV BATTALION. In other words, Ukrainians who see the Azov Battalion as freedom fighters elected a Jew to their higher office.

I do not know why you and SG and the Qanoners Re so hung up on this. It REALLY is a bad look. Ukraine is not/not a belligerent country. Russia is. You are allowing yourself to be dangerously distracted bu some very tenuous conspiracy stuff.

You are being told this by someone who spent the last few years calling out the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA scam as a conspiracy theory, and who has been very recently an IC watch officer with a SCI clearance.

I am not bullshitting you when I say you and SG and anyone else on this board playing the “ukrainians are nazis” game are shilling for Czar Vlad. Open your eyes. Russia is literally leveling Ukraine. There is zero justification for it. It is a war of aggression and it may well lead to a world conflagration. Let’s not get hi g up on a Ukrainian militia unit. It sounds as ridiculous as killing millions over Gavrilo Princips’ aim.


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I was told a story once by a wise kalmmunist. Basically it goes something like this: If there are 10 people in a room and one of them is a nazi, and no one tells him to leave, then there are 10 nazi's in a room.

Sorry bub, I don't make the rules, I just play by them. We had "everyone's a nazi" rhetoric for 4+ years, not letting that get swept under a rug for the sake of claiming there are "good nazis" all of a sudden. Sorry, not gonna fly.

This is the clown world we live in now:

[SDHornet]

And I said this earlier, but yes CID, there being neo-nazis in Ukraine doesn't justify the invasion.

[SDHornet]

Speaking of drunk. 6? PM where you’re at. Isn’t it a little early to be

No...Maybe.

Your mom, by the way.

Seriously, State Dept is a huge fuck up. Fucking refund button.

I believe CID is very smart and capable. I just don't believe who he works for, and to tell me what to think is comical.

Don't lecture me.

We've seen State Dept actions for years and it isn't a good look. Afghanistan? JFC.

Yup. All the lies we've been told by the gubmint and somehow we should believe them because as wrong as they have been on foreign affairs they are somehow right and believable on Ukraine. Absolutely laughable.

[SDHornet]

How did I miss this headline.

[SDHornet]

Russia pulling the "Mission Accomplished" meme? Thread on their claims and "second phase" in the war.

[SeattleGriz]

No...Maybe.

Your mom, by the way.

Seriously, State Dept is a huge fuck up. Fucking refund button.

I believe CID is very smart and capable. I just don't believe who he works for, and to tell me what to think is comical.

Don't lecture me.

We've seen State Dept actions for years and it isn't a good look. Afghanistan? JFC.

Yup. All the lies we've been told by the gubmint and somehow we should believe them because as wrong as they have been on foreign affairs they are somehow right and believable on Ukraine. Absolutely laughable.

Victoria Nuland. A fucking joke.

[SDHornet]

Yup. All the lies we've been told by the gubmint and somehow we should believe them because as wrong as they have been on foreign affairs they are somehow right and believable on Ukraine. Absolutely laughable.

Victoria Nuland. Don't fucking lecture me if you work under her. Fucking joke.

Pointing out the corruption of the Ukrainian gubmint and the existence of neo-nazis in Ukraine doesn't make Putin less of a war criminal. These things aren't mutually exclusive.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm going to throw this out there. I know I've been a totally unfair dick to CID. He has no control who he works for. I believe he is 95% correct in his assessment. I am a stooge compared to him.

But imma still talk shit.

[AZGrizFan]

I'm going to throw this out there. I know I've been a totally unfair dick to CID. He has no control who he works for. I believe he is 95% correct in his assessment. I am a stooge compared to him.

But imma still talk shit.

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

[SeattleGriz]

I'm going to throw this out there. I know I've been a totally unfair dick to CID. He has no control who he works for. I believe he is 95% correct in his assessment. I am a stooge compared to him.

But imma still talk shit.

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

Extactly.

[SDHornet]

I'm going to throw this out there. I know I've been a totally unfair dick to CID. He has no control who he works for. I believe he is 95% correct in his assessment. I am a stooge compared to him.

But imma still talk shit.

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

I don't doubt CID, I doubt the intentions of this current administration/gubmint.

[AZGrizFan]

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

I don't doubt CID, I doubt the intentions of this current administration/gubmint.

Whut? They have only your best interests at heart, brown person.

[SeattleGriz]

I'm going to throw this out there. I know I've been a totally unfair dick to CID. He has no control who he works for. I believe he is 95% correct in his assessment. I am a stooge compared to him.

But imma still talk shit.

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

Extactly. Cid has forgotten more on the topic than I would know

StOnge is just wrong. Guy said he knows more than me on the topic of COVID. That's my one and only power alley on this board.

[BDKJMU]

How did I miss this headline.

Alot of generals are just political hacks. Take the current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and a couple of his recent statements that proved to be pretty moronic:
7/21/21:

The Afghan security forces have the capacity and capabilities needed to fight and defend their country.

2/6/22: Kiev

could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine takes place,”

[HI54UNI]

EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden DID help secure millions in funding for US contractor in Ukraine specializing in deadly pathogen research, laptop emails reveal, raising more questions about the disgraced son of then vice president

The Russian government held a press conference Thursday claiming that Hunter Biden helped finance a US military 'bioweapons' research program in Ukraine
However the allegations were branded a brazen propaganda ploy to justify president Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine and sow discord in the US
But emails and correspondence obtained by DailyMail.com from Hunter's abandoned laptop show the claims may well be true
The emails show Hunter helped secure millions of dollars of funding for Metabiota, a Department of Defense contractor specializing in research on pandemic-causing diseases
He also introduced Metabiota to an allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas firm, Burisma, for a 'science project' involving high biosecurity level labs in Ukraine
The president's son and his colleagues invested $500,000 in Metabiota through their firm Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners
They raised several million dollars of funding for the company from investment giants including Goldman Sachs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... raine.html

[UNI88]

So you’re CID’s JSO on geopolitical events like JSO is your JSO regarding vaccine efficacy….

I don't doubt CID, I doubt the intentions of recent administrations/gubmint.

FYP

You're a sucker if you trust Biden or Trump.

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[SDHornet]

I don't doubt CID, I doubt the intentions of recent administrations/gubmint.

FYP

You're a sucker if you trust Biden or Trump.

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Fair, but Trump didn't get us into any new wars.

[UNI88]

FYP

You're a sucker if you trust Biden or Trump.

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Fair, but Trump didn't get us into any new wars.

True. That was one of the many positives from Trump's presidency.

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[SDHornet]

Fair, but Trump didn't get us into any new wars.

True. That was one of the many positives from Trump's presidency that triggers leftists.

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FYP

[kalm]

EXCLUSIVE: Hunter Biden DID help secure millions in funding for US contractor in Ukraine specializing in deadly pathogen research, laptop emails reveal, raising more questions about the disgraced son of then vice president

The Russian government held a press conference Thursday claiming that Hunter Biden helped finance a US military 'bioweapons' research program in Ukraine
However the allegations were branded a brazen propaganda ploy to justify president Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine and sow discord in the US
But emails and correspondence obtained by DailyMail.com from Hunter's abandoned laptop show the claims may well be true
The emails show Hunter helped secure millions of dollars of funding for Metabiota, a Department of Defense contractor specializing in research on pandemic-causing diseases
He also introduced Metabiota to an allegedly corrupt Ukrainian gas firm, Burisma, for a 'science project' involving high biosecurity level labs in Ukraine
The president's son and his colleagues invested $500,000 in Metabiota through their firm Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners
They raised several million dollars of funding for the company from investment giants including Goldman Sachs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... raine.html

1). This indicates the systemic corruption in our DoD and legitimizes the question of why a damaged package like Hunter and with close ties to the VP was involved.

2). Raises eyebrows if further dots can be connected but not much in this article goes beyond what the Russians are alleging. The Russians are about as trustworthy as a crack addict.

[CID1990]

I’ll wait for some corroboration from sources outside the Russian state orbit

That said, if there isn’t a connection between Hunter and these labs … this should serve as a warning to future politically connected douchebags trying to cash in on their connections. Hunter certainly was being paid by Burisma for no other reason than his last name. It makes it really easy to point to any other thing people want to accuse him of

One note on these labs-

DoD research in Ukraine is actually on pathogens which were developed by the Soviet Union labs and then subsequently became possessions of Ukraine (and other former SSRs) when the USSR broke up. Calling them
bioweapons labs is intended to make them sound more sinister than they are.


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