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Is an unwanted baby is some ways an unwanted tenant? From that perspective, we now have Democrats advocating for landlord rights and Republicans advocating for tenant rights.
If a state wants to make it illegal to evict a tenant maybe they should take responsibility for the cost and effort to house them.
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So abdication of all responsibility is going to be allowed now? Birth control is cheap and plentiful.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:16 am Is an unwanted baby is some ways an unwanted tenant? From that perspective, we now have Democrats advocating for landlord rights and Republicans advocating for tenant rights.
If a state wants to make it illegal to evict a tenant maybe they should take responsibility for the cost and effort to house them.
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It's easy for a woman to regulate. Close her legs.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:59 amEjaculation clearly needs to be regulated…GannonFan wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 8:48 am
Hard to say how they'll be able to verify any of that. You'll never be able to know if an egg had been fertilized or not. Lots of eggs get fertilized but then don't implant in the uterus. It's no sure thing that a fertilized egg gets to the next step even naturally. No doubt a fertilized egg is certainly the start of a life, but that's the issue we have right now - science tells us life begins at conception, but we don't have anyway to move that out of a woman's body and allow the life to continue, before a certain point. Until we can create artificial wombs we'll have this issue. And once we have artificial wombs we'll have a new problem of too many orphans.
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It's just as easy for a man to regulate. Keep it in his pants.
If a government is going to make abortion illegal then they should also tighten things up to make sure the man is on the hook for 50% of the medical and support costs.
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I'm just following Trump's lead - have a good time at other's expense, take credit for the good and avoid responsibility for anything that could be considered bad or cost money.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:20 amSo abdication of all responsibility is going to be allowed now? Birth control is cheap and plentiful.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:16 am Is an unwanted baby is some ways an unwanted tenant? From that perspective, we now have Democrats advocating for landlord rights and Republicans advocating for tenant rights.
If a state wants to make it illegal to evict a tenant maybe they should take responsibility for the cost and effort to house them.
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I'm fine with that. You don't want to be a father wrap it up or zip it up.
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But, only protected by the right to privacy.
If there is no more right to privacy, these groups will start pushing limiting contraceptives and birth control.
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There's a right to privacy, and even Alito's draft says that. The Left's meltdown that this will now result in everything being overturned (gay marriage, contraception, even interracial marriage - the Left still do realize that Clarence Thomas, a Black man, is married to a white woman, no?) is more fear-mongering as opposed to real political action. None of those things are in any danger as they differ significantly from the abortion question. All those other cases involve two different people making a mutual decision on how to live. Abortion, as pro-life people will say, doesn't have that mutual component.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:45 amBut, only protected by the right to privacy.
If there is no more right to privacy, these groups will start pushing limiting contraceptives and birth control.
For contraception, I would certainly think morning after pills (the ones that attack a fertilized or implanted egg) would be at risk - those are basically chemical abortions. But any contraception that just blocks the sperm or blocks an egg from releasing would be permissible. No one's about to ban condoms or birth control pills. I'm sure you'll hear some crazies on the right say that, and I'm sure we'll be able to dig up some crazy and say "see, someone's saying it", but there won't be any real chance of that happening.
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Now we're supposed to use horse drugs for abortions.
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There is no right to privacy when it concerns the greater good.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:45 amBut, only protected by the right to privacy.
If there is no more right to privacy, these groups will start pushing limiting contraceptives and birth control.
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Libs agree with you. Time to register your guns, including the ones at the bottom of the lake.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:06 amThere is no right to privacy when it concerns the greater good.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:45 am
But, only protected by the right to privacy.
If there is no more right to privacy, these groups will start pushing limiting contraceptives and birth control.
Who defines the greater good? Some self-righteous big-government twat or some self-righteous religious zealot? Both are determined to impose their version of morality on others.
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The experts get to decide. They also need to raise a person's insurance premiums if they have an abortion. Proven you can't make the right choice, so the experts will decide for you.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:12 amLibs agree with you. Time to register your guns, including the ones at the bottom of the lake.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:06 am
There is no right to privacy when it concerns the greater good.
Who defines the greater good? Some self-righteous big-government twat or some self-righteous religious zealot? Both are determined to impose their version of morality on others.
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FauciSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:19 amThe experts get to decide. They also need to raise a person's insurance premiums if they have an abortion. Proven you can't make the right choice, so the experts will decide for you.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:12 am
Libs agree with you. Time to register your guns, including the ones at the bottom of the lake.
Who defines the greater good? Some self-righteous big-government twat or some self-righteous religious zealot? Both are determined to impose their version of morality on others.
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Who are these "experts"? They sound suspiciously like the Ministry of Truth.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:19 amThe experts get to decide. They also need to raise a person's insurance premiums if they have an abortion. Proven you can't make the right choice, so the experts will decide for you.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:12 am Libs agree with you. Time to register your guns, including the ones at the bottom of the lake.
Who defines the greater good? Some self-righteous big-government twat or some self-righteous religious zealot? Both are determined to impose their version of morality on others.
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No. In this instance the experts are the pro-life crowd. They are the only ones that truly grasp the gravity of the situation.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:21 amFauciSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:19 am
The experts get to decide. They also need to raise a person's insurance premiums if they have an abortion. Proven you can't make the right choice, so the experts will decide for you.
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Answered above in reply to Klam, but the experts would be from the pro-life crowd. Only they truly grasp the issue here.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:22 amWho are these "experts"? They sound suspiciously like the Ministry of Truth.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:19 am
The experts get to decide. They also need to raise a person's insurance premiums if they have an abortion. Proven you can't make the right choice, so the experts will decide for you.
If you are a medical provider and you go against their expertise, you lose your medical license.
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Sh!t, I can see an Abortion Inquisition in our future with that approach.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:23 amNo. In this instance the experts are the pro-life crowd. They are the only ones that truly grasp the gravity of the situation.
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Theocracy much?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:24 amAnswered above in reply to Klam, but the experts would be from the pro-life crowd. Only they truly grasp the issue here.
If you are a medical provider and you go against their expertise, you lose your medical license.
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How about we just take away their livelihood, restrict their movements and vilify the aborters on the news.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:35 amSh!t, I can see an Abortion Inquisition in our future with that approach.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:23 am
No. In this instance the experts are the pro-life crowd. They are the only ones that truly grasp the gravity of the situation.
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Well if that's where all the settled science lives, too bad.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:39 amTheocracy much?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 11:24 am
Answered above in reply to Klam, but the experts would be from the pro-life crowd. Only they truly grasp the issue here.
If you are a medical provider and you go against their expertise, you lose your medical license.
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Huh?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:02 pmWell if that's where all the settled science lives, too bad.
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The aborters are denying that a fetus is a living baby. They do not grasp science, thus they are not allowed to make choices. The choices need to be made for them.kalm wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:03 pmHuh?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:02 pm
Well if that's where all the settled science lives, too bad.
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There is usually a flipside to every argument whether it is consistent with your priorities and beliefs or not.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:22 pmThe lifers are denying that a fetus is a squatter. They do not grasp economics, thus they are not allowed to make choices. The choices need to be made for them.
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The flip side is disinformation and needs to be stopped. Banishment from social media and polite society is the norm for spreading disinformation.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:40 pmThere is usually a flipside to every argument whether it is consistent with your priorities and beliefs or not.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:22 pm
The lifers are denying that a fetus is a squatter. They do not grasp economics, thus they are not allowed to make choices. The choices need to be made for them.
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Does that go for everything? Because there's a certain Republican lawmaker who thinks jewish lasers caused wildfires out west.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 12:41 pmThe flip side is disinformation and needs to be stopped. Banishment from social media and polite society is the norm for spreading disinformation.
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