Yes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:14 amOf course you don’t like Weismann. He was appointed by both RINO Bush’s to positions at Justice and then took down Manafort.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:58 pm
I wasn't distracting anything. Simply pointing out you made a claim about a website you've never read. Your credibility takes a hit when you make stuff up.
And Andrew Weissman, puhleaze. Guys been busted before for making shit up and widely known to be the actual person running the Russia collusion case. His credibility is worse than yours.
Lastly, his point is not only biased, but speculative. You can tell he's still butthurt with all the resources and shenanigans his team pulled trying to get Trump, but they failed.
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What does that even mean?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:34 amYes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.
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Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 amFalse equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:14 pm
I believe I read a couple of pillow fort pieces way back when. You’re just butthurt that I’m belittling one of your favorite sources for “accurate” information.
Making up shit is bad? Did anyone tell trump? Speaking of credibility, you can’t knock Weissman for making shit up after minimizing trump doing it.
The reasons behind his point may be biased but that doesn’t mean the point isn’t valid. MAGAt yahoos can keep eating up trump’s bullshit but people with functioning brain stems know he’s full of it. He’s worried and trying to keep the trial from sinking him.
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How exactly?UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pmDid Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am
False equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.
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What thread are we posting in? Do I need to write it in crayon for you?
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Ok, you got nothing..
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Its your first move every time, but to be fair, its the same as anybody else with a flimsy case would do.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:58 pmI wasn't distracting anything. Simply pointing out you made a claim about a website you've never read. Your credibility takes a hit when you make stuff up.UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:54 pm
Says the guy who wants to distract and deflect attention away from a valid point ...
“If you are innocent and want to be vindicated, you ask for a trial before the election,” he wrote on Twitter. “If you are guilty and want to run on victimization, without being undermined by facts and law, you don’t.”
And Andrew Weissman, puhleaze. Guys been busted before for making shit up and widely known to be the actual person running the Russia collusion case. His credibility is worse than yours.
Lastly, his point is not only biased, but speculative. You can tell he's still butthurt with all the resources and shenanigans his team pulled trying to get Trump, but they failed.
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If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:20 pmWhat does that even mean?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:34 am
Yes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.
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Name those lies.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pmDid Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am
False equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.
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There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.
We can start with lying about all the documents being returned.
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Oh, you're privy to the content of the documents. Please do tell what they are about. I'll get my popcorn ready. Can't wait!
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I'm as privy to the contents of those documents as you are to what's going on in Ukraine but that doesn't stop you from posting your opinions.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:02 pmOh, you're privy to the content of the documents. Please do tell what they are about. I'll get my popcorn ready. Can't wait!
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Ok, let's see the proof.
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On one side we have U.S. v. Trump Nauta
On the other we have trump and his legal beagles' claims getting dismissed in various states.
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FARA was only a part of his convictions and other charges that resulted in a hung jury.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:36 pmIf Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.
Of course you probably knew that.
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I'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:08 pmFARA was only a part of his convictions and other charges that resulted in a hung jury.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:36 pm
If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.
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That's not proof he put American lives and interests at risk.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:32 pmOn one side we have U.S. v. Trump Nauta
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It's not proof because:BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:35 pmThat's not proof he put American lives and interests at risk.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:32 pm
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- the documents weren't in an insecure location?
- the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
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No. They would need to be indicted first. Then tried. Perhaps you have some new insight into filing decisions? Of course you don’t. But I’m guessing you’ll pretend like you do anyway.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:25 pmI'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.
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You know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:32 pmNo. They would need to be indicted first. Then tried. Perhaps you have some new insight into filing decisions? Of course you don’t. But I’m guessing you’ll pretend like you do anyway.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:25 pm
I'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.
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Was Mueller in charge of the previous Manafort investigations? For example, did Garland file charges against Trump. Or did it take a special prosecutor? Did no further evidence come out regarding Manafort once the Mueller investigation produced new witnesses?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:38 pmYou know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.
If Hunter and the Podestas committed crimes, they should have been indicted. And they could have been by the Trump DOJ and/or Durham probe.
But please…keep on pissing in the wind.
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Dude. You've been proven to be way wrong on this topic and you know it. I absolutely clobbered you on Flynn, so you're now just throwing shit against the wall. Manafort's crimes had NOTHING to do with Trump.kalm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:40 pmWas Mueller in charge of the previous Manafort investigations? For example, did Garland file charges against Trump. Or did it take a special prosecutor? Did no further evidence come out regarding Manafort once the Mueller investigation produced new witnesses?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:38 pm
You know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.
If Hunter and the Podestas committed crimes, they should have been indicted. And they could have been by the Trump DOJ and/or Durham probe.
But please…keep on pissing in the wind.
Manafort was guilty for sure, but to get him for crimes committed in 2014 just for optics is ridiculous.
In regards to the Durham probe, puhleaze. He wasn't tasked with investigating the Podesta's, just like how he didn't bother to ask why the FBI never got access to the DNC server or why a special counsel was started without proper predicate.
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-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:06 pmIt's not proof because:The allegations themselves are more proof than trump and his legal beagles were able to provide that the election was stolen. It strains credibility for anyone who bought that malarky to dismiss these allegations.
- the documents weren't in an insecure location?
- the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
- at this point they're allegations that haven't been proven yet? (in my opinion that's coming, that's why trump wants to delay, delay, delay and cry like the loser and pretend victim he is).
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.
And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
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We do know 27 "love letters" between Trump and Kim Jong Un are part of the "national security" documents. NARA admitted under testimony.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:53 pm-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.UNI88 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:06 pm
It's not proof because:The allegations themselves are more proof than trump and his legal beagles were able to provide that the election was stolen. It strains credibility for anyone who bought that malarky to dismiss these allegations.
- the documents weren't in an insecure location?
- the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
- at this point they're allegations that haven't been proven yet? (in my opinion that's coming, that's why trump wants to delay, delay, delay and cry like the loser and pretend victim he is).
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.
And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
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And if they are personal letters addressed to him, he is entitled to have them.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:54 pmWe do know 27 "love letters" between Trump and Kim Jong Un are part of the "national security" documents. NARA admitted under testimony.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:53 pm
-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.
And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
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