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What are Trump's secret documents?

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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:14 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:58 pm

I wasn't distracting anything. Simply pointing out you made a claim about a website you've never read. Your credibility takes a hit when you make stuff up.

And Andrew Weissman, puhleaze. Guys been busted before for making shit up and widely known to be the actual person running the Russia collusion case. His credibility is worse than yours.

Lastly, his point is not only biased, but speculative. You can tell he's still butthurt with all the resources and shenanigans his team pulled trying to get Trump, but they failed.
Of course you don’t like Weismann. He was appointed by both RINO Bush’s to positions at Justice and then took down Manafort.
Yes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:34 am
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:14 am

Of course you don’t like Weismann. He was appointed by both RINO Bush’s to positions at Justice and then took down Manafort.
Yes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.
What does that even mean?

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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:14 pm
I believe I read a couple of pillow fort pieces way back when. You’re just butthurt that I’m belittling one of your favorite sources for “accurate” information.

Making up shit is bad? Did anyone tell trump? Speaking of credibility, you can’t knock Weissman for making shit up after minimizing trump doing it.

The reasons behind his point may be biased but that doesn’t mean the point isn’t valid. MAGAt yahoos can keep eating up trump’s bullshit but people with functioning brain stems know he’s full of it. He’s worried and trying to keep the trial from sinking him.


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False equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.

You should check out Arthur Anderson and Merrill Lynch cases Weissman was over.
Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am

False equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.

You should check out Arthur Anderson and Merrill Lynch cases Weissman was over.
Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.
How exactly?
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pm
Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.
How exactly?
What thread are we posting in? Do I need to write it in crayon for you? :D
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:22 pm
How exactly?
What thread are we posting in? Do I need to write it in crayon for you? :D
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SeattleGriz wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:58 pm
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:54 pm

Says the guy who wants to distract and deflect attention away from a valid point ...

“If you are innocent and want to be vindicated, you ask for a trial before the election,” he wrote on Twitter. “If you are guilty and want to run on victimization, without being undermined by facts and law, you don’t.”
I wasn't distracting anything. Simply pointing out you made a claim about a website you've never read. Your credibility takes a hit when you make stuff up.

And Andrew Weissman, puhleaze. Guys been busted before for making shit up and widely known to be the actual person running the Russia collusion case. His credibility is worse than yours.

Lastly, his point is not only biased, but speculative. You can tell he's still butthurt with all the resources and shenanigans his team pulled trying to get Trump, but they failed.
Its your first move every time, but to be fair, its the same as anybody else with a flimsy case would do.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:20 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:34 am

Yes that's it and it has nothing to do with equal justice.
What does that even mean?

:lol:
If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:33 am

False equivalency. Trump's "lies" didn't put 30,000 people out of a job.

You should check out Arthur Anderson and Merrill Lynch cases Weissman was over.
Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.
Name those lies.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:29 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:07 pm
What thread are we posting in? Do I need to write it in crayon for you? :D
Ok, you got nothing..
There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:37 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:59 pm Did Weismann's lies put American lives and interests at risk? trump's did.
Name those lies.
We can start with lying about all the documents being returned.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:54 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:29 pm
Ok, you got nothing..
There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:37 pm
Name those lies.
We can start with lying about all the documents being returned.
:rofl: Oh, you're privy to the content of the documents. Please do tell what they are about. I'll get my popcorn ready. Can't wait!
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:02 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:54 pm There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.

We can start with lying about all the documents being returned.
:rofl: Oh, you're privy to the content of the documents. Please do tell what they are about. I'll get my popcorn ready. Can't wait!
I'm as privy to the contents of those documents as you are to what's going on in Ukraine but that doesn't stop you from posting your opinions.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:54 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:29 pm
Ok, you got nothing..
There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.
Ok, let's see the proof.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:08 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:54 pm
There is more proof that trump put American lives and interests at risk by hoarding classified documents than there is that the 2020 election was stolen.
Ok, let's see the proof.
On one side we have U.S. v. Trump Nauta

On the other we have trump and his legal beagles' claims getting dismissed in various states.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:36 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:20 pm

What does that even mean?

:lol:
If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.
FARA was only a part of his convictions and other charges that resulted in a hung jury.

Of course you probably knew that.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:08 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:36 pm

If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations when the FBI previously passed on those violations, so should Hunter Biden and John and Tony Podesta, but we don't see that. Justice is not being dispensed equally.
FARA was only a part of his convictions and other charges that resulted in a hung jury.

Of course you probably knew that.
I'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:32 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:08 pm
Ok, let's see the proof.
On one side we have U.S. v. Trump Nauta

On the other we have trump and his legal beagles' claims getting dismissed in various states.
That's not proof he put American lives and interests at risk.
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:35 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:32 pm
On one side we have U.S. v. Trump Nauta

On the other we have trump and his legal beagles' claims getting dismissed in various states.
That's not proof he put American lives and interests at risk.
It's not proof because:
  • the documents weren't in an insecure location?
  • the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
  • at this point they're allegations that haven't been proven yet? (in my opinion that's coming, that's why trump wants to delay, delay, delay and cry like the loser and pretend victim he is).
The allegations themselves are more proof than trump and his legal beagles were able to provide that the election was stolen. It strains credibility for anyone who bought that malarky to dismiss these allegations.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:25 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:08 pm

FARA was only a part of his convictions and other charges that resulted in a hung jury.

Of course you probably knew that.
I'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.
No. They would need to be indicted first. Then tried. Perhaps you have some new insight into filing decisions? Of course you don’t. But I’m guessing you’ll pretend like you do anyway. :lol:
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:32 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:25 pm

I'll say it again. If Manafort was convicted of FARA violations AFTER the FBI previously passed on those same charges of convicting him, Hunter and the Podesta brothers need to have been convicted as well. You asked about equal justice.
No. They would need to be indicted first. Then tried. Perhaps you have some new insight into filing decisions? Of course you don’t. But I’m guessing you’ll pretend like you do anyway. :lol:
You know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:38 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:32 pm

No. They would need to be indicted first. Then tried. Perhaps you have some new insight into filing decisions? Of course you don’t. But I’m guessing you’ll pretend like you do anyway. :lol:
You know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.
Was Mueller in charge of the previous Manafort investigations? For example, did Garland file charges against Trump. Or did it take a special prosecutor? Did no further evidence come out regarding Manafort once the Mueller investigation produced new witnesses?

If Hunter and the Podestas committed crimes, they should have been indicted. And they could have been by the Trump DOJ and/or Durham probe.

But please…keep on pissing in the wind.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:40 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:38 pm

You know what I meant. For the third time. The FBI previously questioned Manafort years before on his oligarch money dealings and didn't care. So it was astonishing Mueller went after him later and convicted him of FARA violations in relation to the same exchange of money the FBI previously questioned him on. Manafort was in business with the Podesta brothers. Why were they allowed to file needed paperwork and close up shop while Manafort was charged and sent to jail? Optics drove unequal justice.
Was Mueller in charge of the previous Manafort investigations? For example, did Garland file charges against Trump. Or did it take a special prosecutor? Did no further evidence come out regarding Manafort once the Mueller investigation produced new witnesses?

If Hunter and the Podestas committed crimes, they should have been indicted. And they could have been by the Trump DOJ and/or Durham probe.

But please…keep on pissing in the wind.
Dude. You've been proven to be way wrong on this topic and you know it. I absolutely clobbered you on Flynn, so you're now just throwing shit against the wall. Manafort's crimes had NOTHING to do with Trump.

Manafort was guilty for sure, but to get him for crimes committed in 2014 just for optics is ridiculous.

In regards to the Durham probe, puhleaze. He wasn't tasked with investigating the Podesta's, just like how he didn't bother to ask why the FBI never got access to the DNC server or why a special counsel was started without proper predicate.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:35 pm
That's not proof he put American lives and interests at risk.
It's not proof because:
  • the documents weren't in an insecure location?
  • the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
  • at this point they're allegations that haven't been proven yet? (in my opinion that's coming, that's why trump wants to delay, delay, delay and cry like the loser and pretend victim he is).
The allegations themselves are more proof than trump and his legal beagles were able to provide that the election was stolen. It strains credibility for anyone who bought that malarky to dismiss these allegations.
-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.

And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:06 pm

It's not proof because:
  • the documents weren't in an insecure location?
  • the documents did not contain information that if it fell into the wrong hands would put American lives and interests at risk?
  • at this point they're allegations that haven't been proven yet? (in my opinion that's coming, that's why trump wants to delay, delay, delay and cry like the loser and pretend victim he is).
The allegations themselves are more proof than trump and his legal beagles were able to provide that the election was stolen. It strains credibility for anyone who bought that malarky to dismiss these allegations.
-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.

And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
We do know 27 "love letters" between Trump and Kim Jong Un are part of the "national security" documents. NARA admitted under testimony.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:54 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:53 pm
-They were in a hell of a lot more secure location than Bidens garage next to his corvette.
-We don’t know what was in the alleged docs. We do know the govt loves to overclassify things.
-No docs are alleged to have fallen into the wrong hands.

And no the allegations aren’t more proof, because of how many times have we heard of allegations against Trump that turned out to be exaggerated, wrong, or outright lies…
We do know 27 "love letters" between Trump and Kim Jong Un are part of the "national security" documents. NARA admitted under testimony.
And if they are personal letters addressed to him, he is entitled to have them.
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