When does Biden drop out of the race?

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What's your prediction on when Biden will drop out of the race?

On July 4th
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Within a week (by July 11th)
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Two Weeks (by July 18th)
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Anytime between 2 weeks the convention
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Right before or at the convention (Aug 19th)
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He doesn't leave the race and runs in November
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Health related emergency stops him from running
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Pee in butt
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:54 pm The names being floated as Kamala Harris' running mate if Biden drops out
Govs. Roy Cooper of North Carolina, Andy Beshear of Kentucky, and Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania are emerging as candidates, the people close to the Biden-Harris campaign said.

Cooper looks like the favorite right now. A Southern moderate, he has worked alongside North Carolina's Republican-led Legislature since winning a tough battle for the governorship in 2016. Before serving as governor, Cooper was the state's attorney general for nearly 16 years. He met Harris during that time, when she was the attorney general in California. Some Democrats think that North Carolina is up for grabs in November and that Cooper could help flip the state.

As the governor of Kentucky, Beshear doesn't offer the same opportunity to turn a red state blue. He did, however, attract some attention after winning another term in deep-red Kentucky last year. Beshear also served as attorney general before his governorship, giving him an additional point of connection to Harris.

Shapiro has something that the White House sorely lacks at the moment: good polling numbers. A poll from January found he had a higher approval rating than other recent Pennsylvania governors, with 59% approving of his performance. Pennsylvania is a key swing state, and Beshear's popularity there could help tip the scales in Democrats' favor.
If the donks were smart they would put one of those donk govs at the top of the ticket, not Kamala lol. All 3 of those guys are smarter than Harris, more likeable than the unlikeable Harris, and don’t speak word salad condescending nonsense to people like they’re schoolchildren like Harris does.

But the donks aren’t smart, so if they pull Joe, they’ll put the word salad VP at the top. Fine by me, as Trump will beat her as easily as Biden.. :nod:
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:51 pm
If the donks were smart they would put one of those donk govs at the top of the ticket, not Kamala lol. All 3 of those guys are smarter than Harris, more likeable than the unlikeable Harris, and don’t speak word salad condescending nonsense to people like they’re schoolchildren like Harris does.

But the donks aren’t smart, so if they pull Joe, they’ll put the word salad VP at the top. Fine by me, as Trump will beat her as easily as Biden.. :nod:
You could be right. Or putting forth a candidate no one has voted for in the primaries might alienate voters with visions of backroom dealers brokered by old white men.

Even if trump loses again, he'll declare that the election was stolen and the gullible will believe him again.
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BDKJMU wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:51 pm
If the donks were smart they would put one of those donk govs at the top of the ticket, not Kamala lol. All 3 of those guys are smarter than Harris, more likeable than the unlikeable Harris, and don’t speak word salad condescending nonsense to people like they’re schoolchildren like Harris does.

But the donks aren’t smart, so if they pull Joe, they’ll put the word salad VP at the top. Fine by me, as Trump will beat her as easily as Biden.. :nod:
I agree on Harris but this isn’t 2016. Trump has a much more clear track record and becomes even more of a target rich environment once Biden is replaced. He’s been given a break the past couple of weeks but associations with Heritage, far right evangelicals, Epstein files, and his own issues with senility will be on full display.
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UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:15 pm
GannonFan wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:27 pm

I don't know a lot about Cooper, but from what I see he's a pretty decent candidate. Any he could be a boon in North Carolina. Beshear is really young, which could cut both ways. Both of them are in the second gubernatorial runs where Shapiro only got elected recently. Shapiro is pretty well respected in PA, but still a little green. I think he's a great '28 candidate if we end up with a Biden/Trump fiasco this fall, or if Harris loses to Trump.

Btw, even Michael Douglas is coming out that Biden's too old. Never would've thought that it would be the Hollywood segment of the party that would be the thing that pushed Biden out of the race finally.
How much will being a little green hurt Shapiro? Will how much he (or anyone else) could help in a key state(s) override experience and readiness?
A lot I think, especially compared to those other two. I like him, but he's only been governor for little over a year. Before that he had a solid run as the state Attorney General for two terms, and was county commissioner (in my county actually) and a state rep for many years. Good consensus builder, isn't bombastic in any way, good level-headed politician. Almost a rarity in this day and age. But I'd have him serve out a term as governor first before hitting national politics. Besides, I think he's better than Kamala so I'd let 2024 play out and then plan for either 2028 (Dem loss in 2024) or 2032 (Dem win in 2024). He's got time. Strangely, his biggest issue could be his religion - will Dems nominate a Jewish candidate? They'd probably rather not deal with that this time around and go with Cooper.
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:11 am
UNI88 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:15 pm

How much will being a little green hurt Shapiro? Will how much he (or anyone else) could help in a key state(s) override experience and readiness?
A lot I think, especially compared to those other two. I like him, but he's only been governor for little over a year. Before that he had a solid run as the state Attorney General for two terms, and was county commissioner (in my county actually) and a state rep for many years. Good consensus builder, isn't bombastic in any way, good level-headed politician. Almost a rarity in this day and age. But I'd have him serve out a term as governor first before hitting national politics. Besides, I think he's better than Kamala so I'd let 2024 play out and then plan for either 2028 (Dem loss in 2024) or 2032 (Dem win in 2024). He's got time.
Both he and Beshears are impressive.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:15 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:11 am

A lot I think, especially compared to those other two. I like him, but he's only been governor for little over a year. Before that he had a solid run as the state Attorney General for two terms, and was county commissioner (in my county actually) and a state rep for many years. Good consensus builder, isn't bombastic in any way, good level-headed politician. Almost a rarity in this day and age. But I'd have him serve out a term as governor first before hitting national politics. Besides, I think he's better than Kamala so I'd let 2024 play out and then plan for either 2028 (Dem loss in 2024) or 2032 (Dem win in 2024). He's got time.
Both he and Beshears are impressive.
And Cooper? I know less about him.
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:16 am
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:15 am

Both he and Beshears are impressive.
And Cooper? I know less about him.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:15 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:11 am

A lot I think, especially compared to those other two. I like him, but he's only been governor for little over a year. Before that he had a solid run as the state Attorney General for two terms, and was county commissioner (in my county actually) and a state rep for many years. Good consensus builder, isn't bombastic in any way, good level-headed politician. Almost a rarity in this day and age. But I'd have him serve out a term as governor first before hitting national politics. Besides, I think he's better than Kamala so I'd let 2024 play out and then plan for either 2028 (Dem loss in 2024) or 2032 (Dem win in 2024). He's got time.
Both he and Beshears are impressive.
Beshear will never be acceptable enough to the left- he’ll never win a donk POTUS primary. Same reason Manchin would never win a donk POTUS primary. How do you think Beshear got elected and re-elected in a Trump 20+ state?
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Micheal Douglass ? :lol:

Who really cares what this guy says?
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:44 am
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:15 am

Both he and Beshears are impressive.
Beshear will never be acceptable enough to the left- he’ll never win a donk POTUS primary. Same reason Manchin would never win a donk POTUS primary. How do you think Beshear got elected and re-elected in a Trump 20+ state?
You’re confused by left politics. Biden was a center right politician his entire career. Closer to Manchin than any progressive. Sure he rhetorically shifted left in 2020 and has addressed a few policies to appease the left and deserves some credit for the FTC, loan forgiveness, and infrastructure spending but he’s still centrist on foreign policy if not right wing when it comes to Israel, macro economics, healthcare, etc.

He ain’t no 2nd coming of FDR.

Manchin is simply a corporate whore. Like so many of them are.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:39 am
BDKJMU wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:44 am
Beshear will never be acceptable enough to the left- he’ll never win a donk POTUS primary. Same reason Manchin would never win a donk POTUS primary. How do you think Beshear got elected and re-elected in a Trump 20+ state?
You’re confused by left politics. Biden was a center right politician his entire career. Closer to Manchin than any progressive. Sure he rhetorically shifted left in 2020 and has addressed a few policies to appease the left and deserves some credit for the FTC, loan forgiveness, and infrastructure spending but he’s still centrist on foreign policy if not right wing when it comes to Israel, macro economics, healthcare, etc.

He ain’t no 2nd coming of FDR.

Manchin is simply a corporate whore. Like so many of them are.
Whoa there, did you just not realize what you were typing or did you purposely try to squeeze that in to an otherwise good post? Absolutely, for most of his career, especially the 70's and the 80's, Biden was surely center right (my Dad always tells it that the Senators who really took him in and made him feel accepted into the Senate as a young Senator who just lost most of his family were the Southern senators, hence why Biden sided with them for most civil rights debates in that time). And Biden, through his Obama years and since, has drifted much more to the center left, if not the left altogether. But there's no way you could ever describe his macro economic principles (i.e. Modern Monetary Theory) and his healthcare views (pro Obamacare, pro price controls, and even towards a full-on NHS-style healthcare system) as "right wing". Those are almost the antithesis of right wing thinking for those topics.
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GF nails it.

The fact that Biden changes and flows with whatever they tell him to be is why I wont be duped into voting for him again. He's a lying politician that is in it for himself and his family. They got me the first time wont happen again. Not to mention a bowl of soup has more intelligence and cognitive ability than he does now.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:52 am
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:39 am

You’re confused by left politics. Biden was a center right politician his entire career. Closer to Manchin than any progressive. Sure he rhetorically shifted left in 2020 and has addressed a few policies to appease the left and deserves some credit for the FTC, loan forgiveness, and infrastructure spending but he’s still centrist on foreign policy if not right wing when it comes to Israel, macro economics, healthcare, etc.

He ain’t no 2nd coming of FDR.

Manchin is simply a corporate whore. Like so many of them are.
Whoa there, did you just not realize what you were typing or did you purposely try to squeeze that in to an otherwise good post? Absolutely, for most of his career, especially the 70's and the 80's, Biden was surely center right (my Dad always tells it that the Senators who really took him in and made him feel accepted into the Senate as a young Senator who just lost most of his family were the Southern senators, hence why Biden sided with them for most civil rights debates in that time). And Biden, through his Obama years and since, has drifted much more to the center left, if not the left altogether. But there's no way you could ever describe his macro economic principles (i.e. Modern Monetary Theory) and his healthcare views (pro Obamacare, pro price controls, and even towards a full-on NHS-style healthcare system) as "right wing". Those are almost the antithesis of right wing thinking for those topics.
1) Do we have a NHS type system? Is that similar or closer to the system the entire rest of 1st uses than it is our own barbaric system? What exactly defines the center here in your mind?

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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:54 am GF nails it.

The fact that Biden changes and flows with whatever they tell him to be is why I wont be duped into voting for him again. He's a lying politician that is in it for himself and his family. They got me the first time wont happen again. Not to mention a bowl of soup has more intelligence and cognitive ability than he does now.
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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:30 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:52 am

Whoa there, did you just not realize what you were typing or did you purposely try to squeeze that in to an otherwise good post? Absolutely, for most of his career, especially the 70's and the 80's, Biden was surely center right (my Dad always tells it that the Senators who really took him in and made him feel accepted into the Senate as a young Senator who just lost most of his family were the Southern senators, hence why Biden sided with them for most civil rights debates in that time). And Biden, through his Obama years and since, has drifted much more to the center left, if not the left altogether. But there's no way you could ever describe his macro economic principles (i.e. Modern Monetary Theory) and his healthcare views (pro Obamacare, pro price controls, and even towards a full-on NHS-style healthcare system) as "right wing". Those are almost the antithesis of right wing thinking for those topics.
1) Do we have a NHS type system? Is that similar or closer to the system the entire rest of 1st uses than it is our own barbaric system? What exactly defines the center here in your mind?

2). MMT is your version of CH’s 4th estate. There’s some truth behind your issues with it but our economic policies as a whole remain top down. Low taxes on the wealthy and corporations, regulatory capture by industries, and massive corruption. To equate it to being left is silly.
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:30 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:52 am
Whoa there, did you just not realize what you were typing or did you purposely try to squeeze that in to an otherwise good post? Absolutely, for most of his career, especially the 70's and the 80's, Biden was surely center right (my Dad always tells it that the Senators who really took him in and made him feel accepted into the Senate as a young Senator who just lost most of his family were the Southern senators, hence why Biden sided with them for most civil rights debates in that time). And Biden, through his Obama years and since, has drifted much more to the center left, if not the left altogether. But there's no way you could ever describe his macro economic principles (i.e. Modern Monetary Theory) and his healthcare views (pro Obamacare, pro price controls, and even towards a full-on NHS-style healthcare system) as "right wing". Those are almost the antithesis of right wing thinking for those topics.
1) Do we have a NHS type system? Is that similar or closer to the system the entire rest of 1st uses than it is our own barbaric system? What exactly defines the center here in your mind?

2). MMT is your version of CH’s 4th estate. There’s some truth behind your issues with it but our economic policies as a whole remain top down. Low taxes on the wealthy and corporations, regulatory capture by industries, and massive corruption. To equate it to being left is silly.
There's more than some truth behind Ganny's issues with MMT and we've known them since the Weimar Republic and before. MMT is dangerously ignorant and arrogant.

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I think Whitmer and Beshear's numbers would increase over time with campaigning and increased name recognition.

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She might do worse with the under 30 crowd than expected. They blame her for ruining school lunches.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:23 pm Image

I think Whitmer and Beshear's numbers would increase over time with campaigning and increased name recognition.

MAQA yahoos if Michelle Obama is selected to replace biden ...
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She might do worse with the under 30 crowd than expected. They blame her for ruining school lunches.
Based only on her body language, I wouldn’t bet on seeing her name emerges as the “guy” …. She seemed like she couldn’t wait to get out of there
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:48 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:23 pm Image

I think Whitmer and Beshear's numbers would increase over time with campaigning and increased name recognition.

MAQA yahoos if Michelle Obama is selected to replace biden ...
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She might do worse with the under 30 crowd than expected. They blame her for ruining school lunches.
Based only on her body language, I wouldn’t bet on seeing her name emerges as the “guy” …. She seemed like she couldn’t wait to get out of there
True.

She has a lot going for her is she does - she's younger, fitter, smarter, better looking and more manly than trump. :coffee:
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:01 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:30 am

1) Do we have a NHS type system? Is that similar or closer to the system the entire rest of 1st uses than it is our own barbaric system? What exactly defines the center here in your mind?

2). MMT is your version of CH’s 4th estate. There’s some truth behind your issues with it but our economic policies as a whole remain top down. Low taxes on the wealthy and corporations, regulatory capture by industries, and massive corruption. To equate it to being left is silly.
There's more than some truth behind Ganny's issues with MMT and we've known them since the Weimar Republic and before. MMT is dangerously ignorant and arrogant.

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What is kalm's version of the 4th estate?
- We have to save our democracy from trump / trump is a fascist?
- Citizens United?
- or the myriad others?
Has Biden even commented on MMT without his teleprompter?
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:01 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:30 am

1) Do we have a NHS type system? Is that similar or closer to the system the entire rest of 1st uses than it is our own barbaric system? What exactly defines the center here in your mind?

2). MMT is your version of CH’s 4th estate. There’s some truth behind your issues with it but our economic policies as a whole remain top down. Low taxes on the wealthy and corporations, regulatory capture by industries, and massive corruption. To equate it to being left is silly.
There's more than some truth behind Ganny's issues with MMT and we've known them since the Weimar Republic and before. MMT is dangerously ignorant and arrogant.

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What is kalm's version of the 4th estate?
- We have to save our democracy from trump / trump is a fascist?
- Citizens United?
- or the myriad others?
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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I think Whitmer and Beshear's numbers would increase over time with campaigning and increased name recognition.

MAQA yahoos if Michelle Obama is selected to replace biden ...
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She might do worse with the under 30 crowd than expected. They blame her for ruining school lunches.
Harris/Whitmer flips the script on age and increases female turnout.
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:55 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:01 pm

There's more than some truth behind Ganny's issues with MMT and we've known them since the Weimar Republic and before. MMT is dangerously ignorant and arrogant.

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What is kalm's version of the 4th estate?
- We have to save our democracy from trump / trump is a fascist?
- Citizens United?
- or the myriad others?
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:lol:
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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UNI88 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 1:38 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:55 pm

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What’s yours?
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Re: When does Biden drop out of the race?

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Any man that votes for a woman should cut his own junk off because hes not being represented anymore. A waste of a vote
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