The Ukraine Crisis

[Caribbean Hen]

Exactly.

Dont need Hawaiis 4 electoral votes going blue every year.

And give Alaska back to Russia and Florida back to Spain.

and put a stopper in the mouth of the blithering idiot taking about buying Greenland and taking back the Panama Canal.



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Spain owns Orlanda via Proxy as many Puerto Ricans are still loyal to Spain except the days their US sponsored disability checks arrive

[Caribbean Hen]

Continue to help UKR reject Russian advances and secure their sovereignty until Russia finally gives up. Either send additional aid and/or weapons to UKR or start using frozen Russian assets (economically risky but do U.S. war).

Can you post the Well we’re waiting gif for me ..

Seriously, what you’re really saying results in a stalemate and Putin can continue with your approach as long as it takes. He’s just not going to give up. The ugly truth is to break the tie, somebody needs to up their game and it will be ugly. A shame a resolution couldn’t have been agreed too and nobody is even even trying

Caribbean Marco is right

Rubio described the fighting between Ukraine and Russia as a "stalemate" that "has to end" during his confirmation hearing last week, adding that under Trump's proposed peace deal both countries will have to make "concessions." Meanwhile, despite Trump's past criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO),

[Caribbean Hen]

You don’t negotiate with authoritarian aggressors. Much less compliment or encourage them.

The expense is a red herring. It’s cost us comparatively little in aid to seriously diminish Russia’s military capability.

Only Russian loving, democracy hating, sheep see otherwise.

Of course you negotiate, giving a little now can save American lives later. If Putin shows any hint of not honoring a treaty on the Ukraine then you crush Russia.

The red herring is we will inherit the financial burden of the entire Ukraine population for the next century .. Puerto Krania

How many decades will it take to weaken Russia? The Ukraine will run out of men before that happens

Biden’s proxy war is crushing the Ukraine minus the handful who are profiting Big with your tax dollars

Ready to negotiate yet ?

[kalm]

Of course you negotiate, giving a little now can save American lives later. If Putin shows any hint of not honoring a treaty on the Ukraine then you crush Russia.

The red herring is we will inherit the financial burden of the entire Ukraine population for the next century .. Puerto Krania

How many decades will it take to weaken Russia? The Ukraine will run out of men before that happens

Biden’s proxy war is crushing the Ukraine minus the handful who are profiting Big with your tax dollars

Ready to negotiate yet ?

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

[Caribbean Hen]

Ready to negotiate yet ?

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

[BDKJMU]

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

Yep.

[kalm]

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

Reagan also wouldn’t have negotiated stolen land for peace with Putin. Or any terrorist. Would he?

Except maybe Iran of course.

[GannonFan]

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

Reagan also wouldn’t have negotiated stolen land for peace with Putin. Or any terrorist. Would he?

Except maybe Iran of course.

What's the solution here? I think Russia is clearly in the wrong and are the aggressor. But I also think we screwed up royally by not being able to diplomatically prevent them from invading in the first place. How does this end? What does that look like? Keep funding Ukraine at the same levels until Russia is ejected from all of Ukraine, including the Crimean peninsula they stole 10 years ago? How long will that take? A year? 5 years? 50 years? Ever? What's the solution?

[kalm]

Reagan also wouldn’t have negotiated stolen land for peace with Putin. Or any terrorist. Would he?

Except maybe Iran of course.

What's the solution here? I think Russia is clearly in the wrong and are the aggressor. But I also think we screwed up royally by not being able to diplomatically prevent them from invading in the first place. How does this end? What does that look like? Keep funding Ukraine at the same levels until Russia is ejected from all of Ukraine, including the Crimean peninsula they stole 10 years ago? How long will that take? A year? 5 years? 50 years? Ever? What's the solution?

It’s a pickle for sure. And it’s also more up to UKR and now Europe. The Baltics are getting nervous again. The Finns are feisty.

[GannonFan]

What's the solution here? I think Russia is clearly in the wrong and are the aggressor. But I also think we screwed up royally by not being able to diplomatically prevent them from invading in the first place. How does this end? What does that look like? Keep funding Ukraine at the same levels until Russia is ejected from all of Ukraine, including the Crimean peninsula they stole 10 years ago? How long will that take? A year? 5 years? 50 years? Ever? What's the solution?

It’s a pickle for sure. And it’s also more up to UKR and now Europe. The Baltics are getting nervous again. The Finns are feisty.

But it has to be up to us as well, no? Aren't we the biggest financier of Ukraine in this endeavor? We don't have a say?

[kalm]

It’s a pickle for sure. And it’s also more up to UKR and now Europe. The Baltics are getting nervous again. The Finns are feisty.

But it has to be up to us as well, no? Aren't we the biggest financier of Ukraine in this endeavor? We don't have a say?

Yes we do. I’m just guessing that support is about to be cut or end. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.

[Bobcat]

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

So true, the weak don't get it, they want rules and stuff when it comes to war.

[Caribbean Hen]

War never would of startled under a strong leader like Reagan

So true, the weak don't get it, they want rules and stuff when it comes to war.

Yep, that’s how wars are prolonged ensuring more deaths but at least we played nice

They are truly clueless

[Bobcat]

So true, the weak don't get it, they want rules and stuff when it comes to war.

Yep, that’s how wars are prolonged ensuring more deaths but at least we played nice

They are truly clueless

If the democrats cant kill you with an abortion, they will try to finish the job in public schools or the military. They love people dying for their shit policies.

[Caribbean Hen]

Yep, that’s how wars are prolonged ensuring more deaths but at least we played nice

They are truly clueless

If the democrats cant kill you with an abortion, they will try to finish the job in public schools or the military. They love people dying for their shit policies.

Nothing worse than Dem who’s already been born advocating for the death of the unborn

Imagine these cowards if the role was reversed

[Bobcat]

Yep, at best they are hypocrites.

[GannonFan]

But it has to be up to us as well, no? Aren't we the biggest financier of Ukraine in this endeavor? We don't have a say?

Yes we do. I’m just guessing that support is about to be cut or end. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.

So you don't want the support cut or ended. What do you want instead?

[kalm]

Yes we do. I’m just guessing that support is about to be cut or end. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.

So you don't want the support cut or ended. What do you want instead?

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

[Caribbean Hen]

So you don't want the support cut or ended. What do you want instead?

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

You tolerated Hamas just fine

[kalm]

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

You tolerated Hamas just fine

Nope. Denounced them immediately. Are you trolling, too lazy to check my posts, or just intellectually lazy?

[SeattleGriz]

Ready to negotiate yet ?

You do realize that Putin is the aggressor here? Of course you don’t.

But you now support negotiating with terrorists.

Reagan would be proud.

You do realize Ukraine was killing it's own citizens before they asked for protection from Putin? Go read up on the history bro.

[SeattleGriz]

So you don't want the support cut or ended. What do you want instead?

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

Once again, for a guy so adamant on his stance, you didn't give two shits over the peace agreement the US and UK nixed. But you support that stupidity because "Putin bad". I can guarantee if your boy was over there fighting, you'd have been pissed, but you're not. You just act as if you give two shits when you don't.

[houndawg]

Bob, I don’t hate anyone. I strongly dislike crony and unrestricted capitalism. I used to be called a kalmunist years ago on here. I take it as a term of endearment. So thank you.

Now…if you could, please highlight decade by decade for the past 100 years how the government has ripped us off. Please be sure to include the massive transfer of wealth upward since Reagan took office.

Foreign Aid.

Thats it, thats all I need to say. Its always been a slush fund in the guise of helping other nations. Its total bullshit and not one American tax dollar should ever go outside of our border EVER

We have about 800 military stations outside our border, dipshit

[BDKJMU]

So you don't want the support cut or ended. What do you want instead?

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

Well those days are over. And its not profitable to the American people.

[UNI88]

No I do not. Unprovoked aggression and war crimes should never be tolerated. To accept those is to welcome a more brutal world and chaos. I’d prefer we did less of the heavy lifting but that’s our MO and it’s profitable in the end to the MIL.

Well those days are over. And its not profitable to the American people.

That's your opinion and you know what they say about opinions ...

IMO the world peace that the US helped to create and protect following WWII has increased trade, reduced unnecessary deaths, fostered (non-military) innovation, and ultimately led to a higher standard of living. Take it away and international conflict will increase leading to less of our goods getting sold overseas and an increase in the cost of goods we buy. 35-50 years of relative peace has been good for the American people as a whole.