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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:20 pm
Stopped reading at "according to people familiar with the matter". BDK has taught me that any statement is worthless unless the person is willing to put their name with it. :D
That didn’t come from Team Right. That came from CNN.
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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:24 pm One thing is certain- Kimmel proved himself to be a next level moron & one of the dumber people on TV when by insisting almost a week after the assassination, that the shooter was MAGA as opposed to Team Left. After everything that has come out clearly indicating the shooter was Team Left, anyone who believes that the shooter was a conk is a next level Jewish Space laser moron.
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Baldy wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 11:15 am
GannonFan wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:24 am

And Roseanne was fired by a private company that was only under duress of public protest. Kimmel was pulled off the air because the government threatened to, in essence, gut the ability of the company to conduct business by revoking their broadcast licenses. That's a mighty big difference. Government, in Kimmel's case, not only didn't protect free speech, but was the main perpetrator of denying that free speech.
Unfortunately, that's probably accurate. A big blunder IMO.

The same cast of characters whining, crying, and complaining about this did not have one word to say (unless they were cheerleading it) when the Biden administration was covertly doing the same thing.
Exactly. The Biden admin spent four years in a massive censorship campaign against the right by using Biden admin officials and their proxies to pressure Big Social Media to censor anyone who questioned the lefts prevailing narrative on Hunter’s laptop, J6, Covid, BLM, Trans, etc, etc.

So for those complaining about the moron Kimmel, cry me a river.
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Edit- never mind. CH already posted.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 3:20 pm Stopped reading at "according to people familiar with the matter". BDK has taught me that any statement is worthless unless the person is willing to put their name with it. :D
That didn’t come from Team Right. That came from CNN.
Doesn’t matter. Using your approach, tor post can be dismissed in its entirety.


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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 6:05 pm Edit- never mind. CH already posted.
A little review on Kimmel…. Shedding viewers like a sheep dog

“According to monthly Nielsen figures, “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” dropped to just 1.1 million total viewers in August 2025, down 43% from January’s 1.95 million. His August household rating of 0.35 marked the weakest showing of the year.”
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A quote full of wisdom from 1979 from Johnny Carson, the king of late night television!

"Now, tell me the last time that Jack Benny, Red Skelton, any comedian, used his show to do serious issues. That's not what I'm there for. Can't they see that?" Carson replied. "Why do they think that just because you have a ‘Tonight Show,’ that you must deal in serious issues?

"That's a danger. It's a real danger. Once you start that, you start to get that self-important feeling that what you say has great import. And you know, strangely enough, you could use that show as a forum. You could sway people. And I don't think you should as an entertainer."
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After Trump directly threatened Jonathan Karl.

You can just put aside any ‘but Biden’ excuses. If you agree with Trump here, you do not understand America. This is fascism. Full stop.

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kalm wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:30 am After Trump directly threatened Jonathan Karl.

You can just put aside any ‘but Biden’ excuses. If you agree with Trump here, you do not understand America. This is fascism. Full stop.

:rofl: There's no fascism now if there wasn't any in the previous administration. What was good then is good now.

Karl needs to learn how to be more professional. He knows better. Karl wasn't attacked.

Here is the exchange.

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kalm wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:30 am After Trump directly threatened Jonathan Karl.

You can just put aside any ‘but Biden’ excuses. If you agree with Trump here, you do not understand America. This is fascism. Full stop.

Nothing there.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:45 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:30 am After Trump directly threatened Jonathan Karl.

You can just put aside any ‘but Biden’ excuses. If you agree with Trump here, you do not understand America. This is fascism. Full stop.

:rofl: There's no fascism now if there wasn't any in the previous administration. What was good then is good now.

Karl needs to learn how to be more professional. He knows better. Karl wasn't attacked.

Here is the exchange.

That’s not the exchange. The link I posted that doesn’t work was outdoors with both men standing up. Karl was fine with his questions.

Trump is a hyper-reactive insecure fascist. :nod:
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GannonFan wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:24 am
Gil Dobie wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:10 am

Rosanne was fired for a bigger blunder.
And Roseanne was fired by a private company that was only under duress of public protest. Kimmel was pulled off the air because the government threatened to, in essence, gut the ability of the company to conduct business by revoking their broadcast licenses. That's a mighty big difference. Government, in Kimmel's case, not only didn't protect free speech, but was the main perpetrator of denying that free speech.
Lawl Roseanne was fired by a private company (using public airwaves) after the Michelle Obama allegedly called the head of the private company (Bob Iger) pressuring him to fire Barr. Sounds like Government, in Barr’s case, was at least a player denying that free speech.

Kimmel who again was going to reportedly double down on what he had said before he was suspended, and refused to apologize). And even BEFORE the FCC chair said anything, Nexstar Media Group, the nation’s largest owner of local TV stations, and Sinclair Broadcast Group, which operates dozens of ABC affiliates, both said they were going to pull the show. So spare us with the BS that with Kimmel's the govt is denying that free speech.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:29 pm
GannonFan wrote: Fri Sep 19, 2025 7:24 am

And Roseanne was fired by a private company that was only under duress of public protest. Kimmel was pulled off the air because the government threatened to, in essence, gut the ability of the company to conduct business by revoking their broadcast licenses. That's a mighty big difference. Government, in Kimmel's case, not only didn't protect free speech, but was the main perpetrator of denying that free speech.
Lawl Roseanne was fired by a private company (using public airwaves) after the Michelle Obama allegedly called the head of the private company (Bob Iger) pressuring him to fire Barr. Sounds like Government, in Barr’s case, was at least a player denying that free speech.

Kimmel who again was going to reportedly double down on what he had said before he was suspended, and refused to apologize). And even BEFORE the FCC chair said anything, Nexstar Media Group, the nation’s largest owner of local TV stations, and Sinclair Broadcast Group, which operates dozens of ABC affiliates, both said they were going to pull the show. So spare us with the BS that with Kimmel's the govt is denying that free speech.
Oh man are you getting a partial story here. :rofl:
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kalm wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 9:45 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 7:29 pm
Lawl Roseanne was fired by a private company (using public airwaves) after the Michelle Obama allegedly called the head of the private company (Bob Iger) pressuring him to fire Barr. Sounds like Government, in Barr’s case, was at least a player denying that free speech.

Kimmel who again was going to reportedly double down on what he had said before he was suspended, and refused to apologize). And even BEFORE the FCC chair said anything, Nexstar Media Group, the nation’s largest owner of local TV stations, and Sinclair Broadcast Group, which operates dozens of ABC affiliates, both said they were going to pull the show. So spare us with the BS that with Kimmel's the govt is denying that free speech.
Oh man are you getting a partial story here. :rofl:
Do elaborate.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 11:33 am
kalm wrote: Sat Sep 20, 2025 9:45 pm

Oh man are you getting a partial story here. :rofl:
Do elaborate.
The pending merger between Nexstar and Tegna.

The Kimmel previously denounced the violence and paid condolences to the family.

The innocuous nature of a political joke that was not demeaning to Kirk. (IE a nothing burger)

The threats from Carr and Trump to go after opposing critics in the near future.

This had to do with big government control than offensive remarks amidst further monopolization of the media via kissing Trump’s ass.
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 2:51 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 11:33 am
Do elaborate.
The pending merger between Nexstar and Tegna.

The Kimmel previously denounced the violence and paid condolences to the family.

The innocuous nature of a political joke that was not demeaning to Kirk. (IE a nothing burger)

The threats from Carr and Trump to go after opposing critics in the near future.

This had to do with big government control than offensive remarks amidst further monopolization of the media via kissing Trump’s ass.
Cry me a fooking river. Where was your concern:
-In 2020 when the FBI, the donk establishment and their allies in MSM, Big Tech, the deep state (51 liars) censored Hunter‘s laptop with the BS Russia disinfo hoax? The NY Post literally had their FB and Twitter accounts locked so they couldn’t spread the story.

In 2021 when the Biden admin was pressuring Big Social Media, who used the public internet spectrum, to censor, demonetize, and shut down conservatives?

Where was the concern when EVERY major social media site in the country banned the sitting president?

After the left did what they did to the right, they are now crying when a FRACTION of what they did during the late Trump I and Biden admin did, is done to them.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:45 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 2:51 pm

The pending merger between Nexstar and Tegna.

The Kimmel previously denounced the violence and paid condolences to the family.

The innocuous nature of a political joke that was not demeaning to Kirk. (IE a nothing burger)

The threats from Carr and Trump to go after opposing critics in the near future.

This had to do with big government control than offensive remarks amidst further monopolization of the media via kissing Trump’s ass.
Cry me a fooking river. Where was your concern:
-In 2020 when the FBI, the donk establishment and their allies in MSM, Big Tech, the deep state (51 liars) censored Hunter‘s laptop with the BS Russia disinfo hoax? The NY Post literally had their FB and Twitter accounts locked so they couldn’t spread the story.

In 2021 when the Biden admin was pressuring Big Social Media, who used the public internet spectrum, to censor, demonetize, and shut down conservatives?

Where was the concern when EVERY major social media site in the country banned the sitting president?

After the left did what they did to the right, they are now crying when a FRACTION of what they did during the late Trump I and Biden admin did, is done to them.
Ummm…who’s crying? Exactly the reply I suspected.

Even if your various conspiracy theories are correct it doesn’t lessen what’s happening now.
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:59 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:45 pm

Cry me a fooking river. Where was your concern:
-In 2020 when the FBI, the donk establishment and their allies in MSM, Big Tech, the deep state (51 liars) censored Hunter‘s laptop with the BS Russia disinfo hoax? The NY Post literally had their FB and Twitter accounts locked so they couldn’t spread the story.

In 2021 when the Biden admin was pressuring Big Social Media, who used the public internet spectrum, to censor, demonetize, and shut down conservatives?

Where was the concern when EVERY major social media site in the country banned the sitting president?

After the left did what they did to the right, they are now crying when a FRACTION of what they did during the late Trump I and Biden admin did, is done to them.
Ummm…who’s crying? Exactly the reply I suspected.

Even if your various conspiracy theories are correct it doesn’t lessen what’s happening now.
LoL none of that’s conspiracy.
What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. Elections have consequences.
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BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 7:59 pm
kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 5:59 pm

Ummm…who’s crying? Exactly the reply I suspected.

Even if your various conspiracy theories are correct it doesn’t lessen what’s happening now.
LoL none of that’s conspiracy.
What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. Elections have consequences.
Ooooh…I bet you have some old libsofTikTok and Rudy Giuliani posts to present as facts too! Perhaps Trump should prosecute all the Bidens.

In other words you have zero principles nor do you care about hypocrisy or truth. Just own the libs and protect Dear Leader.

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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:06 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 7:59 pm
LoL none of that’s conspiracy.
What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. Elections have consequences.
Ooooh…I bet you have some old libsofTikTok and Rudy Giuliani posts to present as facts too! Perhaps Trump should prosecute all the Bidens.

In other words you have zero principles nor do you care about hypocrisy or truth. Just own the libs and protect Dear Leader.

Got it. :thumb:
Kalmela

Have you ever read one of your 80,000 posts? :lol:

My God son, the irony of your words is somewhere between sad and hilarious
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Caribbean Hen wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:11 am
kalm wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 8:06 pm

Ooooh…I bet you have some old libsofTikTok and Rudy Giuliani posts to present as facts too! Perhaps Trump should prosecute all the Bidens.

In other words you have zero principles nor do you care about hypocrisy or truth. Just own the libs and protect Dear Leader.

Got it. :thumb:
Kalmela

Have you ever read one of your 80,000 posts? :lol:

My God son, the irony of your words is somewhere between sad and hilarious
No. I haven’t.

Explain to me in your own words the definition of irony and how it supports your argument.

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First Tucker Carlson, now Ted Cruz: Conservatives are talking about an ‘unbelievably dangerous’ precedent being set by the FCC chair
“I hate what Jimmy Kimmel said. I am thrilled that he was fired,” he said on Friday on his podcast Verdict with Ted Cruz. “But let me tell you, if the government gets in the business of saying, ‘We don’t like what you, the media, have said, we’re going to ban you from the airwaves if you don’t say what we like’—that will end up bad for conservatives.

Cruz, who is the chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, which has jurisdiction over the FCC, called Carr’s remarks “dangerous as hell,” warning against a future where the government can influence what broadcast networks put out.

“I think it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put itself in the position of saying, ‘We’re going to decide what speech we like and what we don’t, and we’re going to threaten to take you off air if we don’t like what you’re saying,’” Cruz added. “And it might feel good right now to threaten Jimmy Kimmel, but when it is used to silence every conservative in America, we will regret it.”
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kalm wrote: Mon Sep 22, 2025 2:33 pm ABC is letting Kimmel back on.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/ ... jUAfI_nc1Q
Sinclair ABC stations aren‘t.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/22/us-news/s ... o-network/
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