IS FCS FOOTBALL DYING?

[BlackFalkin]

All those powerhouse D2 schools need to start stepping up to the FCS

And all those powerhouse FCS schools need to start stepping up to the FBS.

[dal4018]

All those powerhouse D2 schools need to start stepping up to the FCS

And all those powerhouse FCS schools need to start stepping up to the FBS.

Add some D3 powers as well like Mt Union

[Caribbean Hen]

That said, kalm, I thank you for recognizing some of my history. Wherever you are, that seems on a par with a guy who recognized my Lodi letterman's jacket in the Navy Nuclear Field "A" School parking lot in Orlando in early '91. Most people that far away won't recognize the school by ANY name....

No way!!

Spent 12 weeks at NTC Orlando in 1982 as a guest of the squids … Completed Two different Navy “A” schools but not as a member of the Navy

As for FCS dying or not? I’m 50/50 on it

Certainly a lot of the marquee programs have moved along. G5 kind of reminds me of an old 1AA super Conference. I hope they will have their own playoff system soon.

FCS is kind of in a weird place when you have dominant teams like South Dakota State and North Dakota State, who are really pretty close to top 25 FBS teams, just steamrolling the sub division year after decade after year…

[Bobcat]

Yep its NDSU, a couple of teams that blip up for a season or 2. Then everyone else is a very distant 4th and 5th place.

[dal4018]

South Carolina St is going to play against instate neighbor South Carolina next year 9-6 and SC STATE WR Nick Sowell should come out smoking when the season starts this year he has NFL POTENTIAL written all over him he is 6-6 200-210 he should be one of the best WRs in the FCS.

[Caribbean Hen]

South Carolina St is going to play against instate neighbor South Carolina next year 9-6 and SC STATE WR Nick Sowell should come out smoking when the season starts this year he has NFL POTENTIAL written all over him he is 6-6 200-210 he should be one of the best WRs in the FCS.

Sounds like he’ll be playing for South Carolina next year

[dal4018]

South Carolina St is going to play against instate neighbor South Carolina next year 9-6 and SC STATE WR Nick Sowell should come out smoking when the season starts this year he has NFL POTENTIAL written all over him he is 6-6 200-210 he should be one of the best WRs in the FCS.

Sounds like he’ll be playing for South Carolina next year

The fan base of South Carolina were hoping that ex-SC STATE WR Shaq Davis was going to leave via the transfer portal but he stayed Sowell said that he likes FCS FOOTBALL.

[BDKJMU]

Now unlimited P5 schollies you’ve got to be kidding me. Will further gut FCS and G5..

..Power 5 Football athletic departments will no longer have scholarship limits for any sport, merely roster limit….

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nc ... ngNewsVerp

[dal4018]

Now unlimited P5 schollies you’ve got to be kidding me. Will further gut FCS and G5..

..Power 5 Football athletic departments will no longer have scholarship limits for any sport, merely roster limit….

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nc ... ngNewsVerp

D2 D3 NAIA need to start acting like The Jeffersons "Move On Up"

[BDKJMU]

Now unlimited P5 schollies you’ve got to be kidding me. Will further gut FCS and G5..

..Power 5 Football athletic departments will no longer have scholarship limits for any sport, merely roster limit….

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nc ... ngNewsVerp

Does this mean no more walkons at P5?

[SuperHornet]

Now unlimited P5 schollies you’ve got to be kidding me. Will further gut FCS and G5..


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nc ... ngNewsVerp

Does this mean no more walkons at P5?

P5 doesn't guarantee having the cache or the willingness to fund every allowable scholarship. We'll certainly see that at places like U$C, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, etc. But Vandy, Northwestern, and OR State? I highly doubt it. At THOSE places, we'll still see walk-ons, particularly preferred walk-ons.

[UNI88]

Does this mean no more walkons at P5?

P5 doesn't guarantee having the cache or the willingness to fund every allowable scholarship. We'll certainly see that at places like U$C, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, etc. But Vandy, Northwestern, and OR State? I highly doubt it. At THOSE places, we'll still see walk-ons, particularly preferred walk-ons.

Vandy and NW are in the SEC & B1G0. They're getting buku dollars from those TV contracts and there will be expectations that they spend it.

You're probably right about OR State. It will depend on what happens with them, WA State and the PAC12.

[dal4018]

South Carolina St will also be meeting up with North Carolina and Clemson in the future.

[BDKJMU]

WOW for all of DIV I..The gulf widens between P4 & everyone else. Alot of G5 and FCS aren’t going to be able to afford this. Huge increase in schollies + FCOA + NIL. Going to take a while for the dust to settle, but think going to see a lot of dropped programs (football and mens’ Olympic) by the end of the decade. Some womens’, but not as many due to Title IX…

[dal4018]

P5 doesn't guarantee having the cache or the willingness to fund every allowable scholarship. We'll certainly see that at places like U$C, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, etc. But Vandy, Northwestern, and OR State? I highly doubt it. At THOSE places, we'll still see walk-ons, particularly preferred walk-ons.

Vandy and NW are in the SEC & B1G0. They're getting buku dollars from those TV contracts and there will be expectations that they spend it.

You're probably right about OR State. It will depend on what happens with them, WA State and the PAC12.

Wazzou and Beaver Country have headed to the West Coast Conference.I was shocked that they didn't go to the Big 12

[Caribbean Hen]

So a lot of the talented players are gonna be sitting the bench and collecting big paychecks to sit.

Somebody remind them about paying taxes

[Caribbean Hen]

That said, kalm, I thank you for recognizing some of my history. Wherever you are, that seems on a par with a guy who recognized my Lodi letterman's jacket in the Navy Nuclear Field "A" School parking lot in Orlando in early '91. Most people that far away won't recognize the school by ANY name....

Was the Mariners Club still open and flush full of female recruits?

[SuperHornet]

That said, kalm, I thank you for recognizing some of my history. Wherever you are, that seems on a par with a guy who recognized my Lodi letterman's jacket in the Navy Nuclear Field "A" School parking lot in Orlando in early '91. Most people that far away won't recognize the school by ANY name....

Was the Mariners Club still open and flush full of female recruits?

I don't remember. That was '90-'91. My brain is shot....

[Caribbean Hen]

Was the Mariners Club still open and flush full of female recruits?

I don't remember. That was '90-'91. My brain is shot....

I was there in 82, but not as part of the Navy.

Remember it like yesterday

NTC Orlando also served as the female Navy Boot Camp and if they were good they got Libo on Saturday night. The Mariners Club was on base and would be packed with female recruits ….

[SuperHornet]

I don't remember. That was '90-'91. My brain is shot....

I was there in 82, but not as part of the Navy.

Remember it like yesterday

NTC Orlando also served as the female Navy Boot Camp and if they were good they got Libo on Saturday night. The Mariners Club was on base and would be packed with female recruits ….

Yes. When I was there, you automatically got sent to RTC Orlando if you were a girl or a nuke. I was a nuke (at the time), so to Orlando I went....

[Caribbean Hen]

I was there in 82, but not as part of the Navy.

Remember it like yesterday

NTC Orlando also served as the female Navy Boot Camp and if they were good they got Libo on Saturday night. The Mariners Club was on base and would be packed with female recruits ….

Yes. When I was there, you automatically got sent to RTC Orlando if you were a girl or a nuke. I was a nuke (at the time), so to Orlando I went....

The same thing in 1982

The economy was horrible in 1981 and I had been to the Coast Guard recruiter in March 1981 and was ready to go and waiting for his call all summer, but they warned me it was gonna take at least six months

In August out of nowhere, the Navy recruiter called and said I can send you to Boot Camp in two weeks and then to Orlando to the nuke school… you don’t need to wait for the Coast Guard son, you come down to see me

I hung up on him

Two weeks later, I was in Cape May, New Jersey for basic training

[Caribbean Hen]

as far as realignment speculation goes

You take the majority of the SEC/Big 10 P1 and P2 teams sprinkled in with some ACC / Big 12 teams and form NFL light. Of course Notre Dame is included and start it out with a 48 team league with plans to expand upwards to say 64 teams over the years.

A certain criteria would be established to determine who gets to move into the NFL light level of what was previously known as college football. I can imagine that competition to get into the new NFL lite would be a vicious cage like fight.

What is left behind would be known as division one football.
It would include pretty much be all of what is known as G5 today with some P4 stragglers sprinkled in. Some G5 would be able to make it up to NFL light if they meet certain conditions and de facto NFL teams could fall back to division one football if they don’t cut it. This would make it a fluid process and give Hope.

In order to increase the amount of teams in the newly designated division one football league, FCS teams would be given an opportunity to join if they met a certain criteria. They would be slotted up To D1 in rhythm with teams sloting up to the new and improved mini NFL.

Eventually, you bring the new DIv 1 up to about 100 or so teams with additions from FCS. Of course the new D1 would need a playoff system of their own and the earlier rounds of these playoffs could be Bowl games just like they are now

[dal4018]

P5 doesn't guarantee having the cache or the willingness to fund every allowable scholarship. We'll certainly see that at places like U$C, Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, etc. But Vandy, Northwestern, and OR State? I highly doubt it. At THOSE places, we'll still see walk-ons, particularly preferred walk-ons.

Vandy and NW are in the SEC & B1G0. They're getting buku dollars from those TV contracts and there will be expectations that they spend it.

You're probably right about OR State. It will depend on what happens with them, WA State and the PAC12.

Oregon State is headed to the West Coast Conference along with Washington State.