Our Planet's Not-So-Attractive Future....

[mainejeff]

There is an interesting realted issue - we're closing in on 7 Billion humans pretty fast...
Estimates suggest we'll be at 14 Billion in 100 years

Yup...
we're multiplying so fast we will likely double the entire global population in 100 years

We better hope the planet cycles a HUGE temperature shift (and fast) something wacky and inhospitable in short order would be preferable - just to slow down the incessant breeding

COME ON GLOBAL WARMING..!!!

Talk about ugly politics and debate.......wait until the "too many people on the planet" argument takes hold!

Humanity is doomed to destroy itself.......we'll breed ourselves into extinction.

[Grizalltheway]

There is an interesting realted issue - we're closing in on 7 Billion humans pretty fast...
Estimates suggest we'll be at 14 Billion in 100 years

Yup...
we're multiplying so fast we will likely double the entire global population in 100 years

We better hope the planet cycles a HUGE temperature shift (and fast) something wacky and inhospitable in short order would be preferable - just to slow down the incessant breeding

COME ON GLOBAL WARMING..!!!

Talk about ugly politics and debate.......wait until the "too many people on the planet" argument takes hold!

Humanity is doomed to destroy itself.......we'll breed ourselves into extinction.

Don't worry, Jesus will return before that happens to guide us to Pluto to start anew.

[CID1990]

But climate change is a myth, Captain.

Nobody has ever said that climate change is a myth.

[Cap'n Cat]

Yeah, Dancer, but you hit on something that most of us ignore, the "turn our lives upside down" thing. You really beleive we're doing that? Are you, really? Heck, I listen to the news and read the reports and nothing gigantic changes for me. I do try to use less gas as a result of the information, though, That can't be bad, can it? If we all did little things like buying more efficient vehicles and conserving, that data you're talking about may be less onerous in a hundred years, right?

The only people who seem to be turning their lives upside down about this are the deniers, getting all lathered up the way they do. Check out some of Tman's posts. Is all that necessary?

Capn'
You make a point I've been trying to make to T-man for going on 4 years now...
He just HATES the fact that somebody is makin' money off of the Global Warming scare - becuase it can't be that anything has actually "changed" in his life...

It's just that somebody is getting over on somebody else - and it's not a capitalist imperial free market scam like the ones he enjoys... it's a Liberal Scam..!!! So he's pissed about it...

it's that simple

But as far as "Lives being turned upside down" please show me one example..?

I think I love you, Chizzle.

[CID1990]

Research away. No problem with that. It seems the smart thing to do. But I don't think we should all have to turn our lives upside down on what can today only be considered preliminary data.

Yeah, Dancer, but you hit on something that most of us ignore, the "turn our lives upside down" thing. You really beleive we're doing that? Are you, really? Heck, I listen to the news and read the reports and nothing gigantic changes for me. I do try to use less gas as a result of the information, though, That can't be bad, can it? If we all did little things like buying more efficient vehicles and conserving, that data you're talking about may be less onerous in a hundred years, right?

The only people who seem to be turning their lives upside down about this are the deniers, getting all lathered up the way they do. Check out some of Tman's posts. Is all that necessary?

The gas you save by driving less is more than made up for by the greenhouse gases you emit from your a$$ while you sit in front of your computer eating Doritos and whacking off to Sarah Palin.

[Cap'n Cat]

Yeah, Dancer, but you hit on something that most of us ignore, the "turn our lives upside down" thing. You really beleive we're doing that? Are you, really? Heck, I listen to the news and read the reports and nothing gigantic changes for me. I do try to use less gas as a result of the information, though, That can't be bad, can it? If we all did little things like buying more efficient vehicles and conserving, that data you're talking about may be less onerous in a hundred years, right?

The only people who seem to be turning their lives upside down about this are the deniers, getting all lathered up the way they do. Check out some of Tman's posts. Is all that necessary?

The gas you save by driving less is more than made up for by the greenhouse gases you emit from your a$$ while you sit in front of your computer eating Doritos and whacking off to Sarah Palin.

Busted.

[clenz]

There is an interesting realted issue - we're closing in on 7 Billion humans pretty fast...
Estimates suggest we'll be at 14 Billion in 100 years

Yup...
we're multiplying so fast we will likely double the entire global population in 100 years

We better hope the planet cycles a HUGE temperature shift (and fast) something wacky and inhospitable in short order would be preferable - just to slow down the incessant breeding

COME ON GLOBAL WARMING..!!!

Talk about ugly politics and debate.......wait until the "too many people on the planet" argument takes hold!

Humanity is doomed to destroy itself.......we'll breed ourselves into extinction.

There are too many people on Earth...we are due for a black plague type epidemic right soon. Modern medicine is a great thing, not many people can deny that. However, I think the world, industrialized nations for sure, is over medicated and living too damn long for the good of the Earth.

The Earth can't support this many people for long. I have a feeling something will happen where the Earth goes "Fuck this, I'm making Earth sustainable myself".

Pretty soon, at this current pace, Earth will collapse

[D1B]

Ask around at your next tea bag party.

Climate change is only a myth to these folks:

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but Z where did you get that picture? I've got 8 cats that look exactly like that and one of em is missing. I think that fat motherfucker stole one of my cats.

Thanks in advance for your attention to this matter.

[AZGrizFan]

Climate change is only a myth to these folks:

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but Z where did you get that picture? I've got 8 cats that look exactly like that and one of em is missing. I think that fat motherfucker stole one of my cats.

Thanks in advance for your attention to this matter.

Talk to your brother.

[travelinman67]

Climate change is only a myth to these folks:

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but Z where did you get that picture? I've got 8 cats that look exactly like that and one of em is missing. I think that fat motherfucker stole one of my cats.

Ahem...

...I was thinking the person holding the cat was 2007 vintage D1B...

[Wedgebuster]

Global warming is obviously occurring some where else but Wyoming this year.

The weather in southern Wyoming has been so snowy and cold this fall, antelope are leaving their home on the range and moving into populated places.



http://cbs4denver.com/local/Unusually.c ... 63062.html

[andy7171]

There are too many people on Earth...we are due for a black plague type epidemic right soon. Modern medicine is a great thing, not many people can deny that. However, I think the world, industrialized nations for sure, is over medicated and living too damn long for the good of the Earth.

The Earth can't support this many people for long. I have a feeling something will happen where the Earth goes "**** this, I'm making Earth sustainable myself".

Pretty soon, at this current pace, Earth will collapse

Says the kid who take four crazy pills a day.

[AZGrizFan]

Global warming is obviously occurring some where else but Wyoming this year.

The weather in southern Wyoming has been so snowy and cold this fall, antelope are leaving their home on the range and moving into populated places.



http://cbs4denver.com/local/Unusually.c ... 63062.html

Typical Wedgie, 8-10 years behind the times.....it's not GLOBAL WARMING anymore, Wedgie....it's called CLIMATE CHANGE...that way, they can take credit for ANY change in the climate, even when it's colder than normal in Wyoming.

How naive.....

[TheDancinMonarch]

Yeah, Dancer, but you hit on something that most of us ignore, the "turn our lives upside down" thing. You really beleive we're doing that? Are you, really?

Not yet. But the threat is there especially with the EPA threatening Congress as happened earlier this week. And it is all based on questionable data, questionable in the sense of the time frame.

Two years ago today it was 78 degrees in Norfolk, a record high for the day. Right now it is 37. Those numbers are interesting but not significant. I didn't buy a new A/C 2 years ago and I'm not getting any new heaters today. Weather is weather. It is variable. It only become significant when there is a long term trend. So to prove to me their is global warming/climate change I'm going to have to see a trend over a period of time that registers as a whole number in the history of the earth. If you can't demonstrate that to me then I'm sorry, I can't get on board.

And one more thing. I have always believed that you know people by the company they keep. It just so happens that the most ardent gw/cc people are also the most anti-business/anti-capitalist people around. And it just seems to me that there may be the possibility that the concept of gw/cc may just be the tool they are using to accomplish their long-term goals.

[AZGrizFan]

And one more thing. I have always believed that you know people by the company they keep. It just so happens that the most ardent gw/cc people are also the most anti-business/anti-capitalist people around. And it just seems to me that there may be the possibility that the concept of gw/cc may just be the tool they are using to accomplish their long-term goals.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

We have a winner, folks!

[Cap'n Cat]

And one more thing. I have always believed that you know people by the company they keep. It just so happens that the most ardent gw/cc people are also the most anti-business/anti-capitalist people around. And it just seems to me that there may be the possibility that the concept of gw/cc may just be the tool they are using to accomplish their long-term goals.

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

We have a winner, folks!

Well, guys, I prefer to be positive on the issue. Re Chizzang's very thoughtful post (reppies to you, BTW - none for you, Z, you're Rush parroting...again), the terms "anti-business" and "anti-capitalist" are, you have to admit, "hot" terms, in that, by there absolutist phrasology, simply meant to inflame. Know what I mean?

I doubt very seriously that a majority of these people, despite the GW nail-spitting from Brother native and Brother T and Brother Z and some of their no-mind henchmen here, are truly anti-capitalist and anti-business. Rather, what they're looking for, and what we are all looking for, is more responsibility. That's all. Yes, industry has, by and large, worked rather diligently to clean up its act, but that's only been a First World, industrialized, civilized nations phenomenon. What we often ignore when we spout off about Big Brother regulation and taxation, etc., is that terrible environmental degradation is going on virtually (and in some places, completely) unchecked. We need a world view in this; we can't be insular and paranoid.

[D1B]

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

We have a winner, folks!

Well, guys, I prefer to be positive on the issue. Re Chizzang's very thoughtful post (reppies to you, BTW - none for you, Z, you're Rush parroting...again), the terms "anti-business" and "anti-capitalist" are, you have to admit, "hot" terms, in that, by there absolutist phrasology, simply meant to inflame. Know what I mean?

I doubt very seriously that a majority of these people, despite the GW nail-spitting from Brother native and Brother T and Brother Z and some of their no-mind henchmen here, are truly anti-capitalist and anti-business. Rather, what they're looking for, and what we are all looking for, is more responsibility. That's all. Yes, industry has, by and large, worked rather diligently to clean up its act, but that's only been a First World, industrialized, civilized nations phenomenon. What we often ignore when we spout off about Big Brother regulation and taxation, etc., is that terrible environmental degradation is going on virtually (and in some places, completely) unchecked. We need a world view in this; we can't be insular and paranoid.

Game, set and Match - Capn wins again.

Z and Tman are a couple blowhards.

[D1B]

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but Z where did you get that picture? I've got 8 cats that look exactly like that and one of em is missing. I think that fat motherfucker stole one of my cats.

Ahem...

...I was thinking the person holding the cat was 2007 vintage D1B...

Just send me more wine motherfucker.

[Cap'n Cat]

Well, guys, I prefer to be positive on the issue. Re Chizzang's very thoughtful post (reppies to you, BTW - none for you, Z, you're Rush parroting...again), the terms "anti-business" and "anti-capitalist" are, you have to admit, "hot" terms, in that, by there absolutist phrasology, simply meant to inflame. Know what I mean?

I doubt very seriously that a majority of these people, despite the GW nail-spitting from Brother native and Brother T and Brother Z and some of their no-mind henchmen here, are truly anti-capitalist and anti-business. Rather, what they're looking for, and what we are all looking for, is more responsibility. That's all. Yes, industry has, by and large, worked rather diligently to clean up its act, but that's only been a First World, industrialized, civilized nations phenomenon. What we often ignore when we spout off about Big Brother regulation and taxation, etc., is that terrible environmental degradation is going on virtually (and in some places, completely) unchecked. We need a world view in this; we can't be insular and paranoid.

Game, set and Match - Capn wins again.

Z and Tman are a couple blowhards.

Sh*t, I put a chew in and a couple seconds later, it just flowed forth, a river of reason.

[D1B]

Game, set and Match - Capn wins again.

Z and Tman are a couple blowhards.

Sh*t, I put a chew in and a couple seconds later, it just flowed forth, a river of reason.

The funny thing is, those guys are on board too. They, like me, and you to a lesser extent, have to keep up appearances here.

[D1B]

Yeah, Dancer, but you hit on something that most of us ignore, the "turn our lives upside down" thing. You really beleive we're doing that? Are you, really?

Not yet. But the threat is there especially with the EPA threatening Congress as happened earlier this week. And it is all based on questionable data, questionable in the sense of the time frame.

Two years ago today it was 78 degrees in Norfolk, a record high for the day. Right now it is 37. Those numbers are interesting but not significant. I didn't buy a new A/C 2 years ago and I'm not getting any new heaters today. Weather is weather. It is variable. It only become significant when there is a long term trend. So to prove to me their is global warming/climate change I'm going to have to see a trend over a period of time that registers as a whole number in the history of the earth. If you can't demonstrate that to me then I'm sorry, I can't get on board.

And one more thing. I have always believed that you know people by the company they keep. It just so happens that the most ardent gw/cc people are also the most anti-business/anti-capitalist people around. And it just seems to me that there may be the possibility that the concept of gw/cc may just be the tool they are using to accomplish their long-term goals.

I love the "its fucking cold today so GW doesn't exist" fucks.

[Chizzang]

Classic Rhetoric:
1) Lives are being turned upside down (not one example to support such claims)

T-man's assertion:
2) Climate Change ideology is destroying every industrialized nation on earth... (Not one example where this is actually happening or true)

It's not going to work here on this forum chicken little...
Go yell that in the streets of middle America - it has a higher take up rate

[TheDancinMonarch]

Not yet. But the threat is there especially with the EPA threatening Congress as happened earlier this week. And it is all based on questionable data, questionable in the sense of the time frame.

Two years ago today it was 78 degrees in Norfolk, a record high for the day. Right now it is 37. Those numbers are interesting but not significant. I didn't buy a new A/C 2 years ago and I'm not getting any new heaters today. Weather is weather. It is variable. It only become significant when there is a long term trend. So to prove to me their is global warming/climate change I'm going to have to see a trend over a period of time that registers as a whole number in the history of the earth. If you can't demonstrate that to me then I'm sorry, I can't get on board.

And one more thing. I have always believed that you know people by the company they keep. It just so happens that the most ardent gw/cc people are also the most anti-business/anti-capitalist people around. And it just seems to me that there may be the possibility that the concept of gw/cc may just be the tool they are using to accomplish their long-term goals.

I love the "its **** cold today so GW doesn't exist" ****.

Let's be fair now. I did not say that nor did I imply that. Read it more carefully.

[Cap'n Cat]

I love the "its **** cold today so GW doesn't exist" ****.

Let's be fair now. I did not say that nor did I imply that. Read it more carefully.

I know you didn't, Monnie.

[AZGrizFan]

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!

We have a winner, folks!

Well, guys, I prefer to be positive on the issue. Re Chizzang's very thoughtful post (reppies to you, BTW - none for you, Z, you're Rush parroting...again), the terms "anti-business" and "anti-capitalist" are, you have to admit, "hot" terms, in that, by there absolutist phrasology, simply meant to inflame. Know what I mean?

I doubt very seriously that a majority of these people, despite the GW nail-spitting from Brother native and Brother T and Brother Z and some of their no-mind henchmen here, are truly anti-capitalist and anti-business. Rather, what they're looking for, and what we are all looking for, is more responsibility. That's all. Yes, industry has, by and large, worked rather diligently to clean up its act, but that's only been a First World, industrialized, civilized nations phenomenon. What we often ignore when we spout off about Big Brother regulation and taxation, etc., is that terrible environmental degradation is going on virtually (and in some places, completely) unchecked. We need a world view in this; we can't be insular and paranoid.

YOU may prefer to be "positive' on the issue, but those in decision-making positions certainly haven't chosen that route.