Truer Words Were Never Spoken----by Whom?

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Re: Truer Words Were Never Spoken----by Whom?

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CID1990 wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:You cannot help the poor
by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak
by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity
by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up
by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man
by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage
by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them
what they could and should do for themselves.

Rev. William J. H. Boetcker.

1942.

Here's his Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._H._Boetcker
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Chizzang Jesus Christ man.

You make it sound like Rome was one day a thriving republic and then the next it was overthrown.

Rome weakened itself from the inside, and then Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon.

Rome continued on for hundreds of years, but continued to weaken itself by distancing itself from the original principles on which it was founded, namely its homogenous religion and its homogenous societal-governmental structures. The Roman military was eventually so populated with non Romans that they were ineffective and could not hang on to the hinterlands of their empire and so they began to pull back, until they were so weak that they were paying tribute to the Huns and the Goths and the Visigoths and so on.

It was a very slow death.

If we really want to be technical, then Rome's government was overthrown every time a new Caesar rose to power, but the kernel of their society reigned for hundreds of years until they were overwhelmed from without.

I know damn well you learned better at Harvard.
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CID1990 wrote:Chizzang Jesus Christ man.

You make it sound like Rome was one day a thriving republic and then the next it was overthrown.

Rome weakened itself from the inside, and then Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon.

Rome continued on for hundreds of years, but continued to weaken itself by distancing itself from the original principles on which it was founded, namely its homogenous religion and its homogenous societal-governmental structures. The Roman military was eventually so populated with non Romans that they were ineffective and could not hang on to the hinterlands of their empire and so they began to pull back, until they were so weak that they were paying tribute to the Huns and the Goths and the Visigoths and so on.

It was a very slow death.

If we really want to be technical, then Rome's government was overthrown every time a new Caesar rose to power, but the kernel of their society reigned for hundreds of years until they were overwhelmed from without.

I know damn well you learned better at Harvard.
At no point do I suggest anything other that it's hard work to change a system in place...
in one of my posts I point out that it is argued that 4 generations of organization and sacrifice are required for any substantial political reorganization to happen

read all of my posts Dude... I'm on this like Donkey Kong

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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Chizzang Jesus Christ man.

You make it sound like Rome was one day a thriving republic and then the next it was overthrown.

Rome weakened itself from the inside, and then Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon.

Rome continued on for hundreds of years, but continued to weaken itself by distancing itself from the original principles on which it was founded, namely its homogenous religion and its homogenous societal-governmental structures. The Roman military was eventually so populated with non Romans that they were ineffective and could not hang on to the hinterlands of their empire and so they began to pull back, until they were so weak that they were paying tribute to the Huns and the Goths and the Visigoths and so on.

It was a very slow death.

If we really want to be technical, then Rome's government was overthrown every time a new Caesar rose to power, but the kernel of their society reigned for hundreds of years until they were overwhelmed from without.

I know damn well you learned better at Harvard.
At no point do I suggest anything other that it's hard work to change a system in place...
in one of my posts I point out that it is argued that 4 generations of organization and sacrifice are required for any substantial political reorganization to happen

read all of my posts Dude... I'm on this like Donkey Kong

:lol:
No, I won't read your other stuff in detail. I prefer to key off of small, insignificant inaccuracies in your posts and harp on them. I learned from the masters.... Jon, D1B, SK, etc etc etc.
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CID1990 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
At no point do I suggest anything other that it's hard work to change a system in place...
in one of my posts I point out that it is argued that 4 generations of organization and sacrifice are required for any substantial political reorganization to happen

read all of my posts Dude... I'm on this like Donkey Kong

:lol:
No, I won't read your other stuff in detail. I prefer to key off of small, insignificant inaccuracies in your posts and harp on them. I learned from the masters.... Jon, D1B, SK, etc etc etc.
Actually T-man is the master at that... :rofl:
but I'm pretty sure he just does it to get me stirred up
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Chizzang wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
No, I won't read your other stuff in detail. I prefer to key off of small, insignificant inaccuracies in your posts and harp on them. I learned from the masters.... Jon, D1B, SK, etc etc etc.
Actually T-man is the master at that... :rofl:
but I'm pretty sure he just does it to get me stirred up
That's definitely the game for some. Ask Grizlaw on egriz.
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kalm wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Actually T-man is the master at that... :rofl:
but I'm pretty sure he just does it to get me stirred up
That's definitely the game for some. Ask Grizlaw on egriz.
T-man may be guilty of many things, but keying "off of small, insignificant inaccuracies" is not one of them. :ugeek:
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native wrote:
kalm wrote:
That's definitely the game for some. Ask Grizlaw on egriz.
T-man may be guilty of many things, but keying "off of small, insignificant inaccuracies" is not one of them. :ugeek:
Perception is a weird thing...
Because I thought that was all he was good at

(I think he makes wine though too... somebody said he does a fine bottle of red)
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Chizzang wrote:
native wrote:
T-man may be guilty of many things, but keying "off of small, insignificant inaccuracies" is not one of them. :ugeek:
Perception is a weird thing...
Because I thought that was all he was good at

(I think he makes wine though too... somebody said he does a fine bottle of red)
Jeebus H. fvcking kriminy his posts are too damn long to be filled only with "small, insignificant inaccuracies!" :coffee:
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native wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Perception is a weird thing...
Because I thought that was all he was good at

(I think he makes wine though too... somebody said he does a fine bottle of red)
Jeebus H. fvcking kriminy his posts are too damn long to be filled only with "small, insignificant inaccuracies!" :coffee:
His actual posts are very short...
his cut and paste quotations are enormous :shock:
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Chizzang wrote:
native wrote:
Jeebus H. fvcking kriminy his posts are too damn long to be filled only with "small, insignificant inaccuracies!" :coffee:
His actual posts are very short...
his cut and paste quotations are enormous :shock:
Some of T-man's posts fit your profile, but he is a prolific poster and his posts are not one-size-fits-all.
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