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DJH wrote:huh? Nobody was outraged. This was a story that was reported by the entire world media. This wasn't america being sore losers. This was reported just like any other story not involving the USA. I didn't see any outrage. Jesus, like we give a crap about hockey. Women's hockey, for that matter...

If you all think Canada is so great, just move up there.
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
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GannonFan wrote:
DJH wrote:huh? Nobody was outraged. This was a story that was reported by the entire world media. This wasn't america being sore losers. This was reported just like any other story not involving the USA. I didn't see any outrage. Jesus, like we give a crap about hockey. Women's hockey, for that matter...

If you all think Canada is so great, just move up there.
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
Don't confuse DB1 and Co. with facts, GF. It ruins his threads.

Without America being the bad guy, DB1 has little to say. :coffee:
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D1B wrote:Beatin up Toyota was embarrassing, now we're taking out our inadequecies and frustration on Canada. I couldn't believe the hypocrisy when the **** american media got all over the Canadian womens hockey team for going nuts and drinking alcohol after they won the gold on home turf.

Fucking hilarious, America, the worlds leading supplier of smut, crap, drug addicts, drunks, serial killers, war mongers, sit coms, steroid abusers, poor sportsmen, cheaters and sore losers - is coming down on a few ladies smoking cigars and having a beer!???

WTF did Canada ever do to us? They've been wonderful neighbors since day one.

I know what they did, they became better than us. :nod: Their people are happy and prosperous. Their people actually control their government, not the opposite here. They don't have crime. They don't start wars. They have a wonderful health care system. They're smart enough to decriminalize weed.

We do the same **** to France. :ohno:

I understand it now. :ohno: America :ohno:
American exceptionalism can go too far and I think you've given some good examples D1
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What are we talking about? There was a hockey game somewhere :?
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GannonFan wrote:
DJH wrote:huh? Nobody was outraged. This was a story that was reported by the entire world media. This wasn't america being sore losers. This was reported just like any other story not involving the USA. I didn't see any outrage. Jesus, like we give a crap about hockey. Women's hockey, for that matter...

If you all think Canada is so great, just move up there.
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
Par for the course...
D1B, barebackjon, mainegeoff, Kalamity, Jizzalltheway, etc....all hate America. :nod:














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Baldy wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
Par for the course...
D1B, barebackjon, mainegeoff, Kalamity, Jizzalltheway, etc....all hate America. :nod:














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Hey, America has done its share of things at time to warrant the bashing, but in this particular case America was almost silent compared to the bellyaching we heard from non-Americans. Odd with so many things you could bash America with that we pull out something like this.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:"Ugly"???

Yeah, we're so bad that Canada's PM Danny Williams has a condo in Sarasota, and opted to have his heart surgery done in the U.S....

'My heart, my choice,' Williams says, defending decision for U.S. heart surgery

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Only D1B would listen to the MSM state-run, social-engineering-motivated talking heads, then attempt to pass off their judgemental whooey as representative of American ethos.

Shame on you, Douche1Bag. :ohno:
Unless there was a coup recently, I think Stephen Harper is still Prime Minister.

And for every rich Canuck that comes down here to have heart surgery, I bet you could find 100 poor Americans who go up there to get cheaper drugs because they can't afford them here.
First of all, who gives a shit about poor people? If they were worth a damn, they wouldn't be poor. :roll:





























;) Jk. Couldn't resist. OK, back to reading this thread.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
DJH wrote:huh? Nobody was outraged. This was a story that was reported by the entire world media. This wasn't america being sore losers. This was reported just like any other story not involving the USA. I didn't see any outrage. Jesus, like we give a crap about hockey. Women's hockey, for that matter...

If you all think Canada is so great, just move up there.
If I can land a job in Vancouver, I'll move there in a heartbeat. :nod:
No kidding. I hear there's some primo tail all over Vancouver. It's Seattle, but cool.
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D1B wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
If I can land a job in Vancouver, I'll move there in a heartbeat. :nod:

Same here. America sucks.
Now,D1B, America does not suck. Come on now. There's definitely room for improvement in lots of areas, but that's true of every country. Quit being some damn dramatic. ;)
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Baldy wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
Par for the course...
D1B, barebackjon, mainegeoff, Kalamity, Jizzalltheway, etc....all hate America. :nod:














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death dealer wrote:
Grizalltheway wrote:
If I can land a job in Vancouver, I'll move there in a heartbeat. :nod:
No kidding. I hear there's some primo tail all over Vancouver. It's Seattle, but cool.
And with a LOT better weed. Or so I've heard. :ugeek:
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blueballs wrote:I'll say the same thing to the Canadiens that I would to the Americans if they had shown up an opponent after a hard fought victory: Act like you've been there before and expected to win.
LIghten up man. I'd have done the same thing. Work hard, play hard. It's a way of life. :nod:
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And to be honest with you, I didn't even hear about this story until I read this thread. Seems like a joke to me. Sort of like the snowboarder with the medal. So what? I'd have behaved the same way at that age, probably would now. And the outrage over the snowboarder was coming from the IOC, not the U.S.

Anyway, I don't think it was much of a story, considering I didn't even see it anywhere before here. So no big deal.
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kalm wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:
!!!! :roll:

You've been reading Douche1Bag so long you've become reading impaired.

Read again, Fucknut.

The issue is Douche1Bag's transferance of the talking head's errant scrupulous nannyism to a condemnation of American ethos.


Please, please, make an effort to avoid sounding like a Douchebag protege.

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Ok, kalmy, take your hat off, look at me and try to stay focused...

...nannyism is wrong.

Whether asserted by government OR media.

Neither possesses the moral authority to determine (judge) whether any person chooses to drink a beer in celebration, smoke a cigarette, eat a Nathan's, drive an SUV, eat red meat, spray Roundup, have a fire in their fireplace, or drink from a garden hose.

And let me emphasize that fabrication of faux societal harm does not enable that authority.

However...

...D1B's attempt to assign media's moral fault as indicative of a general American cultural failing, is (typical and pathetic) Douche1Bag self-hatred.

Kalmy?

KALMY?

Are you listening...

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Nevermind.
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travelinman67 wrote:Ok, kalmy, take your hat off, look at me and try to stay focused...

...nannyism is wrong.

Whether asserted by government OR media.

Neither possesses the moral authority to determine (judge) whether any person chooses to drink a beer in celebration, smoke a cigarette, eat a Nathan's, drive an SUV, eat red meat, spray Roundup, have a fire in their fireplace, or drink from a garden hose.

And let me emphasize that fabrication of faux societal harm does not enable that authority.

Nevermind.
What about smoking weed, driving after 2 glasses of wine or wearing a setbelt?

Seriously, how do you feel about government nannyism pertaining to those issues?
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Appaholic wrote:
travelinman67 wrote:Ok, kalmy, take your hat off, look at me and try to stay focused...

...nannyism is wrong.

Whether asserted by government OR media.

Neither possesses the moral authority to determine (judge) whether any person chooses to drink a beer in celebration, smoke a cigarette, eat a Nathan's, drive an SUV, eat red meat, spray Roundup, have a fire in their fireplace, or drink from a garden hose.

And let me emphasize that fabrication of faux societal harm does not enable that authority.

Nevermind.
What about smoking weed, driving after 2 glasses of wine or wearing a setbelt?

Seriously, how do you feel about government nannyism pertaining to those issues?
Same as I feel about your performing cunnilingus on your wife when she has history of yeast infections. If you get sick as a result, and the government in any way is responsible for the cost of your treatment, does that justify the government's imposition of an Appaholic snack ban?
How about that "leg around the bedpost" maneuver you like? If it inflames your sciatic nerve, does government then have the "moral authority" to enforce a "missionary only" rule? Install cameras in your bedroom?

And when did it become media's duty to engineer social habits?

If govt. is left unchecked, they'll determine the air we exhale is a dangerous substance and attempt to regulate it.

Ooopss...they are. :oops:
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travelinman67 wrote:
Appaholic wrote:
What about smoking weed, driving after 2 glasses of wine or wearing a setbelt?

Seriously, how do you feel about government nannyism pertaining to those issues?
Same as I feel about your performing cunnilingus on your wife when she has history of yeast infections. If you get sick as a result, and the government in any way is responsible for the cost of your treatment, does that justify the government's imposition of an Appaholic snack ban?
How about that "leg around the bedpost" maneuver you like? If it inflames your sciatic nerve, does government then have the "moral authority" to enforce a "missionary only" rule? Install cameras in your bedroom?

And when did it become media's duty to engineer social habits?

If govt. is left unchecked, they'll determine the air we exhale is a dangerous substance and attempt to regulate it.

Ooopss...they are. :oops:
See....here I am asking a serious question & all I get is grief....

So, you're cool with decrminializing any activity as long as the government doesn't have to fund it's repurcussions?
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Appaholic wrote: See....here I am asking a serious question & all I get is grief....
Just dancing your ass around the Maypole, Picker.

Nannies are manic absolutists: There's never an end.

Their targets are not supported by systemic or pandemic harm, they develop fixated loathing for an issue, then fabricate the justification: Machiavellianism as a "cure" for their neurosis.

Follow the path, and we become a totalitarian state eating pink lumps in stew-broth in state-owned cafeterias. You think Orwell hadn't thought through 1984?

The problem is not American culture, it's the type A nannies.



BTW, how's your sciatic problem?
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travelinman67 wrote:
Appaholic wrote: See....here I am asking a serious question & all I get is grief....
Just dancing your ass around the Maypole, Picker.

Nannies are manic absolutists: There's never an end.

Their targets are not supported by systemic or pandemic harm, they develop fixated loathing for an issue, then fabricate the justification: Machiavellianism as a "cure" for their neurosis.

Follow the path, and we become a totalitarian state eating pink lumps in stew-broth in state-owned cafeterias. You think Orwell hadn't thought through 1984?

The problem is not American culture, it's the type A nannies.



BTW, how's your sciatic problem?

:rofl: That's the kind of stream-of-conciousness jabber you get from somebody who just ate a bunch of shrooms.
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What's even funnier about the attempt at this thread - I imagine to smear America - is that there's lots of speculation that the reason the IOC (not America) got so inflamed over this and the reason why the IOC (not America) demanded an apology was based in part on the IOC's possible push to eliminate women's hockey from the Olympics. Apparently, sports that are played by women and dominated by Canada and America are not really looked upon kindly by the male-heavy, Euro-centric IOC (i.e. see softball getting axed from the Games and see women's ski jumping not getting in, with the comment that "ski jumping is not suited to ladies' bodies").

So the US, which relative to the rest of the world really pushes and champions women's sports, gets the knock in this thread for carrying reports in the media of the IOC's harsh rebuke of the women hockey player's from Canada, nary a word is mentioned in this diatribe about how the IOC (not America) is the real reactionary agent in all of this. Those darn Euro-fat cats.
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GannonFan wrote:What's even funnier about the attempt at this thread - I imagine to smear America - is that there's lots of speculation that the reason the IOC (not America) got so inflamed over this and the reason why the IOC (not America) demanded an apology was based in part on the IOC's possible push to eliminate women's hockey from the Olympics. Apparently, sports that are played by women and dominated by Canada and America are not really looked upon kindly by the male-heavy, Euro-centric IOC (i.e. see softball getting axed from the Games and see women's ski jumping not getting in, with the comment that "ski jumping is not suited to ladies' bodies").

So the US, which relative to the rest of the world really pushes and champions women's sports, gets the knock in this thread for carrying reports in the media of the IOC's harsh rebuke of the women hockey player's from Canada, nary a word is mentioned in this diatribe about how the IOC (not America) is the real reactionary agent in all of this. Those darn Euro-fat cats.
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GannonFan wrote:
DJH wrote:huh? Nobody was outraged. This was a story that was reported by the entire world media. This wasn't america being sore losers. This was reported just like any other story not involving the USA. I didn't see any outrage. Jesus, like we give a crap about hockey. Women's hockey, for that matter...

If you all think Canada is so great, just move up there.
Kinda agree with this - heck, this story elicited little more than a chuckle here in the States - who was really outraged? If anything, it was the IOC and the Europe elite who have been smacking Canada since the Games began (the UK press has been at the forefront of the "Blame Canada" movement). Odd to have a thread about this and blaming Americans for this since the bulk of the criticism for this came from outside of the US.
Bullshit Gannon. :ohno: While you were embroiled in your Dungeons & Dragons Marathon, I noticed the story AND the hypocrisy on ESPN, and the front page of most major AMERICAN newspapers, including USA Today.
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GannonFan wrote:What's even funnier about the attempt at this thread - I imagine to smear America - is that there's lots of speculation that the reason the IOC (not America) got so inflamed over this and the reason why the IOC (not America) demanded an apology was based in part on the IOC's possible push to eliminate women's hockey from the Olympics. Apparently, sports that are played by women and dominated by Canada and America are not really looked upon kindly by the male-heavy, Euro-centric IOC (i.e. see softball getting axed from the Games and see women's ski jumping not getting in, with the comment that "ski jumping is not suited to ladies' bodies").

So the US, which relative to the rest of the world really pushes and champions women's sports, gets the knock in this thread for carrying reports in the media of the IOC's harsh rebuke of the women hockey player's from Canada, nary a word is mentioned in this diatribe about how the IOC (not America) is the real reactionary agent in all of this. Those darn Euro-fat cats.
I can accept this as possible, but it still don't mean the AMERICAN media didn't exaggerated the story to appease sore loser, poor sportman AMERICANS.
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travelinman67 wrote:
Appaholic wrote: See....here I am asking a serious question & all I get is grief....
Just dancing your ass around the Maypole, Picker.

Nannies are manic absolutists: There's never an end.

Their targets are not supported by systemic or pandemic harm, they develop fixated loathing for an issue, then fabricate the justification: Machiavellianism as a "cure" for their neurosis.

Follow the path, and we become a totalitarian state eating pink lumps in stew-broth in state-owned cafeterias. You think Orwell hadn't thought through 1984?

The problem is not American culture, it's the type A nannies.
That's fine as long as you recognize that they exist on both the left and the right and in both the corporate and governmental form.
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blueballs wrote:I'll say the same thing to the Canadiens that I would to the Americans if they had shown up an opponent after a hard fought victory: Act like you've been there before and expected to win.
LIghten up man. I'd have done the same thing. Work hard, play hard. It's a way of life. :nod:
They won a gold medal in their national sport and they were f'ing happy about and let it all hang out. I thought their display of pride and joy was pretty darn cool!
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