You are a lot more fun when you are getting laid!Chizzang wrote:Trust me I'm not upset - I live a charmed life - Joyous Happy and Freenative wrote:
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Your point wasn't missed at all, but you did miss the hyperbole....Chizzang wrote: Well you kinda missed my point (completely)
1) Record spending when Bush was in office was so upsetting and so disturbing it got him "re-elected" as president for a second term
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2) The government take-over of "The entire US Health care system" as you call it... has not happened.. and my guess is it won't happen anything like Rush and Glen Beck are suggesting (at least I sure as hell hope not) I'm not a fan of the present US system or the proposed future system - both are ridiculous
A) The present System has always been designed to make Drug companies and insurance companies record profits - and - shouldn't involve Human lives (and is better for lawyers than doctors)
B) The proposed future system is a completely unmanageable pipe dream and places unrealistic expectations on the Federal Governments ability to "manage" which it has never proven it can do
Back on topic:
I never suggested that Obama being black had anything to do with anything... so I'm not sure where you come up with that in my post... My point was simple and was not about a few pundits paying mild lip service: Bush record spending didn't upset the Hard working conservative Americans as much as it should have - not even close - they re-elected him and he was about as socialist as any president we've ever had (up until the present socialist in office today) that's all
Look at Bush's re-election from a common sense standpoint:
George W. Bush vs. John F'n Kerry...are you serious? That's like choosing Swine Flu over a head cold.
You don't need to worry about what Rush or Beck has said about this health care debate. Obama has gone on record more than once claiming his ultimate goal is a single payer universal government run health care system. This horrible bill being voted on today is just the first step.
The comment about Obama being black was more for houndawg's benefit, you just got caught in the middle, sorry about that.
It was much more than just a few pundits paying mild lip service. If you don't believe me, just look at the huge number of so-called "Republicans" many that were supposedly 'hard core' who endorsed (only God knows why) Obama in the last election.
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You two need to get a room.native wrote:You are a lot more fun when you are getting laid!Chizzang wrote:
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Word.Chizzang wrote:...Zeus has been good to me, placing a string of Athena's daughters in my life (present goddess included) and looking out for my better interests
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travelinman67 wrote:Word.Chizzang wrote:...Zeus has been good to me, placing a string of Athena's daughters in my life (present goddess included) and looking out for my better interests
The Gods are great - Life is good - Athens and Sparta will always be at war - it is the way of men
It's all about pussy. Getting it and keeping it safe.
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+1Baldy wrote: ...Look at Bush's re-election from a common sense standpoint:
George W. Bush vs. John F'n Kerry...are you serious? That's like choosing Swine Flu over a head cold.
You don't need to worry about what Rush or Beck has said about this health care debate. Obama has gone on record more than once claiming his ultimate goal is a single payer universal government run health care system. This horrible bill being voted on today is just the first step.
The comment about Obama being black was more for houndawg's benefit, you just got caught in the middle, sorry about that.
It was much more than just a few pundits paying mild lip service. If you don't believe me, just look at the huge number of so-called "Republicans" many that were supposedly 'hard core' who endorsed (only God knows why) Obama in the last election.
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Since "conservatives" were so upset with George W. Bush in 2004... why didn't they mount a primary challenge? Surely with so many upset conservatives some opportunistic teabagger would have taken the opportunity. No?Baldy wrote:
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Some conservativesSkjellyfetti wrote:Since "conservatives" were so upset with George W. Bush in 2004... why didn't they mount a primary challenge? Surely with so many upset conservatives some opportunistic teabagger would have taken the opportunity. No?Baldy wrote:
Look at Bush's re-election from a common sense standpoint:
George W. Bush vs. John F'n Kerry...are you serious? That's like choosing Swine Flu over a head cold.
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Yah, we all know you've been lapping at McCain's shriveled nutsack for decades. No need to reemphasize your infatuation.AZGrizFan wrote:
Some conservativesdidn't want GW in 2000 either.
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As opposed to dimwits like you who've wholly taken Obama's dick deep down your throat for 2 1/2 years now.Skjellyfetti wrote:Yah, we all know you've been lapping at McCain's shriveled nutsack for decades. No need to reemphasize your infatuation.AZGrizFan wrote:
Some conservativesdidn't want GW in 2000 either.
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I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
Some conservatives never WANTED GW in the first place. Much like you'd be hard pressed to find 50% of the country that admits to voting for Obama now.
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I didn't say that.AZGrizFan wrote:I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
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I don't believe I said you did.Skjellyfetti wrote:I didn't say that.AZGrizFan wrote:I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".![]()
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The only time I can recall that Republicans attempted such a thing was when Teddy Roosevelt challenged Taft in 1912 and threw the election to Wilson. What a fvcking disaster THAT was!Skjellyfetti wrote:Since "conservatives" were so upset with George W. Bush in 2004... why didn't they mount a primary challenge? Surely with so many upset conservatives some opportunistic teabagger would have taken the opportunity. No?Baldy wrote:
Look at Bush's re-election from a common sense standpoint:
George W. Bush vs. John F'n Kerry...are you serious? That's like choosing Swine Flu over a head cold.
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Not even 50% of democratic voters wanted Obama in the primaries either... I voted for Obama once, I wont do it again.AZGrizFan wrote:As opposed to dimwits like you who've wholly taken Obama's dick deep down your throat for 2 1/2 years now.Skjellyfetti wrote:
Yah, we all know you've been lapping at McCain's shriveled nutsack for decades. No need to reemphasize your infatuation.
I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
Some conservatives never WANTED GW in the first place. Much like you'd be hard pressed to find 50% of the country that admits to voting for Obama now.![]()
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Who will you vote for, cat?UNHWildCats wrote:Not even 50% of democratic voters wanted Obama in the primaries either... I voted for Obama once, I wont do it again.AZGrizFan wrote:
As opposed to dimwits like you who've wholly taken Obama's dick deep down your throat for 2 1/2 years now.
I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
Some conservatives never WANTED GW in the first place. Much like you'd be hard pressed to find 50% of the country that admits to voting for Obama now.![]()
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Fool UNH once, shame on youUNHWildCats wrote:Not even 50% of democratic voters wanted Obama in the primaries either... I voted for Obama once, I wont do it again.AZGrizFan wrote:
As opposed to dimwits like you who've wholly taken Obama's dick deep down your throat for 2 1/2 years now.
I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
Some conservatives never WANTED GW in the first place. Much like you'd be hard pressed to find 50% of the country that admits to voting for Obama now.![]()
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i hope a serious challenger steps up in the primaries or I will be looking to a third party candidate... I doubt the GOP would nominate a moderate.native wrote:Who will you vote for, cat?UNHWildCats wrote: Not even 50% of democratic voters wanted Obama in the primaries either... I voted for Obama once, I wont do it again.
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But he got some crazy %age of the vote....he won't get that again.UNHWildCats wrote:Not even 50% of democratic voters wanted Obama in the primaries either... I voted for Obama once, I wont do it again.AZGrizFan wrote:
As opposed to dimwits like you who've wholly taken Obama's dick deep down your throat for 2 1/2 years now.
I only point it out to shoot down the assinine comment that "no conservatives were unhappy with GW".
Some conservatives never WANTED GW in the first place. Much like you'd be hard pressed to find 50% of the country that admits to voting for Obama now.![]()
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1) you are naive if you think Obama or the govmint is going to control the healthcare system under the current or proposed plan.
2) Why is for-profit health insurance more important than providing affordable healthcare?
2) Why is for-profit health insurance more important than providing affordable healthcare?
Re: Tea Party Protests: 'Ni**er,''Faggot' Shouted At Congressmen
Yeah, that worked so well for the Donks in 1980...Skjellyfetti wrote:Since "conservatives" were so upset with George W. Bush in 2004... why didn't they mount a primary challenge? Surely with so many upset conservatives some opportunistic teabagger would have taken the opportunity. No?Baldy wrote:
Look at Bush's re-election from a common sense standpoint:
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JohnStOnge wrote:My opinion is that the economic downturn shortly before the 2008 Presidential election was a primary catalyst for the Tea Party movement. It's what led to the massive stimulus expenditures at the end of the Bush Administration and the beginning of the Obama Administration and my understanding is that it was those stimulus expenditures that sparked a popular response.catamount man wrote:the tea party jerkoffs weren't around when Bush was spending money and expanding government so their little rallying cries are in vain to me.
I think that the reason the Tea Party was not "around" during the Bush Administration is that the events that ignited it occurred too late. By the time the response to the events gathered steam, Bush was out of office.
Why not?
Because W signed every spending bill that was placed in front of him.
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Nope, I'm not buying it... eitherBaldy wrote:
It was much more than just a few pundits paying mild lip service. If you don't believe me, just look at the huge number of so-called "Republicans" many that were supposedly 'hard core' who endorsed (only God knows why) Obama in the last election.
In Bush first term he broke spending records and did NOT veto one (1) spending bill...
This should have sent shock-waves through the Republican party it's Constituency and the conservative Media
But the truth be told Republicans have never minded spending (never) as long as it's on the stuff they like
Yes: It is a repeated lie and part of the Bullsh!t credo spilled forth routinely by the PUNDITS that Republicans are fiscally responsible - but - it's a historical fact that never has a Republican President left office with a smaller budget and smaller deficit than he entered with (Never)
so we simply need to examine the evidence - which leads us to: Republicans have no issues with spending trainloads of money (and they never have - see Reagan spending and deficit records) they simply say they do when the other guy is in office...
Results:
Liberals simply spend money on stuff Republicans disagree with... that's the only difference between the two parties if you care to use actual evidence and not just rhetoric and ideology
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Yep. When Republicans talk about spending cuts they mean social spending cuts. Military cuts are off the table.
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Bush senior took some serious military cuts in his Presidency. So did Calvin Coolidge.houndawg wrote:Yep. When Republicans talk about spending cuts they mean social spending cuts. Military cuts are off the table.
Earned entitlements are not the same as unearned entitlements.
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They are to the people being squeezed to fund them.native wrote:Bush senior took some serious military cuts in his Presidency. So did Calvin Coolidge.houndawg wrote:Yep. When Republicans talk about spending cuts they mean social spending cuts. Military cuts are off the table.
Earned entitlements are not the same as unearned entitlements.
And I realize the bloated spending isn't all the fault of the military.
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