20 Ways ObamaCare Will Take Away Our Freedoms

[Col Hogan]

Note: Jelly won't address the issue of Obama loving the infringements to the Constitutionin the Patriot Act...signing a continuation of said infringements...instead of taking a stand a vetoing it...

Dude, he would be **** crucified if he vetoed the Patriot Act. As bad as it is... we are fighting terrorism. Obama believes in that fight. I believe in that fight. If he flat out vetoed it 75% of the country would abandon him (including me).

I know it's nuance... and that's one thing Obama's always criticized for. But, just because you are against parts of the Patriot Act doesn't mean you're against the whole thing.

For my education, please tell me what parts of the Patriot Act you think are good...and should be retained...

[ASUMountaineer]

Note: Jelly won't address the issue of Obama loving the infringements to the Constitutionin the Patriot Act...signing a continuation of said infringements...instead of taking a stand a vetoing it...

Dude, he would be **** crucified if he vetoed the Patriot Act. As bad as it is... we are fighting terrorism. Obama believes in that fight. I believe in that fight. If he flat out vetoed it 75% of the country would abandon him (including me).

I know it's nuance... and that's one thing Obama's always criticized for. But, just because you are against parts of the Patriot Act doesn't mean you're against the whole thing.

He'd gain my support.

[Col Hogan]

Dude, he would be **** crucified if he vetoed the Patriot Act. As bad as it is... we are fighting terrorism. Obama believes in that fight. I believe in that fight. If he flat out vetoed it 75% of the country would abandon him (including me).

I know it's nuance... and that's one thing Obama's always criticized for. But, just because you are against parts of the Patriot Act doesn't mean you're against the whole thing.

He'd gain my support.

Me too...but we're not his 'base" which like the power they now have...

[native]

Your freedoms are just a nuance, Colonel. That just about sums up the whole socialist/ progressive/ demokrat philosophy.

Have you read a Supreme Court decision? I'm sure you have. Guess what? They're nuanced as ****. So, decisions about your rights always have been and always will be nuanced, native.

Nothing socialist about it, though... I know thta's just a reflexive word you like to use... you don't really mean it.

Brother Al says differently, skelly. At least he is unashamed of his dysfunction.

[ASUMountaineer]

He'd gain my support.

Me too...but we're not his 'base" which like the power they now have...

Speaking of, did you see the Pelosi interview with Diane Sawyer? Sawyer said, "Some have called you the most powerful speaker in 100 years, what do you think about that?" And, Pelosi said, "Sounds good, doesn't it?" That's all you need to know.

Back to the PATRIOT Act, I will not vote for any candidate that supported it. I will always vote against them...it's my own litmus test.

[AZGrizFan]

Me too...but we're not his 'base" which like the power they now have...

Speaking of, did you see the Pelosi interview with Diane Sawyer? Sawyer said, "Some have called you the most powerful speaker in 100 years, what do you think about that?" And, Pelosi said, "Sounds good, doesn't it?" That's all you need to know.

Back to the PATRIOT Act, I will not vote for any candidate that supported it. I will always vote against them...it's my own litmus test.

See? Everybody's got one....For some, it's abortion. For others, it's the constitution.

[native]

Speaking of, did you see the Pelosi interview with Diane Sawyer? Sawyer said, "Some have called you the most powerful speaker in 100 years, what do you think about that?" And, Pelosi said, "Sounds good, doesn't it?" That's all you need to know.

Back to the PATRIOT Act, I will not vote for any candidate that supported it. I will always vote against them...it's my own litmus test.

See? Everybody's got one....For some, it's abortion. For others, it's the constitution.

POLI POST OF THE MONTH!

[ASUMountaineer]

Speaking of, did you see the Pelosi interview with Diane Sawyer? Sawyer said, "Some have called you the most powerful speaker in 100 years, what do you think about that?" And, Pelosi said, "Sounds good, doesn't it?" That's all you need to know.

Back to the PATRIOT Act, I will not vote for any candidate that supported it. I will always vote against them...it's my own litmus test.

See? Everybody's got one....For some, it's abortion. For others, it's the constitution.

I felt left out, decided it was time to choose...

[Chizzang]

Speaking of, did you see the Pelosi interview with Diane Sawyer? Sawyer said, "Some have called you the most powerful speaker in 100 years, what do you think about that?" And, Pelosi said, "Sounds good, doesn't it?" That's all you need to know.

Back to the PATRIOT Act, I will not vote for any candidate that supported it. I will always vote against them...it's my own litmus test.

See? Everybody's got one....For some, it's abortion. For others, it's the constitution.

Agreed... The draft dodgers that drew that one up really did an amazing disservice to America and Obama really got my attention when he screwed that up... if there ever was an easy VETO - especially from the guy who didn't vote for the War on logic (I mean war on terror)

He lost me right there..!!!

[houndawg]

So the President has to make trips to the "heartland" in order for an issue to matter to him.

Gotcha.



Who would want to go to the "heartland" anyway? Sounds boring.

Only on the surface, 'jelly. Take it from a born and raised Californian, the mid-west is a great place.

[UCABEAR]

Note: Jelly won't address the issue of Obama loving the infringements to the Constitutionin the Patriot Act...signing a continuation of said infringements...instead of taking a stand a vetoing it...

Dude, he would be **** crucified if he vetoed the Patriot Act. As bad as it is... we are fighting terrorism. Obama believes in that fight. I believe in that fight. If he flat out vetoed it 75% of the country would abandon him (including me).

I know it's nuance... and that's one thing Obama's always criticized for. But, just because you are against parts of the Patriot Act doesn't mean you're against the whole thing.

Wow, for the first time..ok..one of the few times, I agree with that Skjelly!

But to completely agree I'll have to:

A) Pass it through my thoughts
B) Send it to my brain for approval
then, with both versions being identical, it will be mentally constitutional.

I can, however, approve it in both cognizant realms without it being identical if I also include a reconcilable "automatic thought" that would justify its existence.

[Skjellyfetti]

Only on the surface, 'jelly. Take it from a born and raised Californian, the mid-west is a great place.

Haha, it probably is. It will always remind me of my leg of a CO>NC roadtrip on I-70 through Kansas. As long as the rest of the midwest is better than that, I'll give it a chance.