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UNHWildCats wrote:
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Should be, ain't no other pitcher that compares to Ubaldo right now.
well in the NL Strasburg compares to him right now and in the AL a few guys outcompare them both right now.
The only thats comparable between Stras and Baldy is that they can both blow a 100, other than that 15-1 shits on anybody in the league. No doubt Stras will be good, I just hate unbelievable hype job ESPN did on him.
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MrTitleist wrote:What the hell are you smoking? Strasburg can't touch Ubaldo right now, he's a rookie that got his first two starts cherry picked and has been battered ever since. And who in the AL can compare? Price? Garza?
Buchholz & Lester to name two
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And Strasburg has had 1 bad game against Atlanta and 3 er over 6+ innings with 7 Ks is hardly a bad game.
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UNHWildCats wrote:And Strasburg has had 1 bad game against Atlanta and 3 er over 6+ innings with 7 Ks is hardly a bad game.
Hmm...seems to me you were shitting on Ubaldo earlier this year when he had numbers like that.
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clenz wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote:And Strasburg has had 1 bad game against Atlanta and 3 er over 6+ innings with 7 Ks is hardly a bad game.
Hmm...seems to me you were shitting on Ubaldo earlier this year when he had numbers like that.
only cause people were saying he was better then some all time greats. Is Ubaldo a very very good pitcher? Yes? Is he better then 1999-2000 Pedro? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE
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clenz wrote: Hmm...seems to me you were shitting on Ubaldo earlier this year when he had numbers like that.
only cause people were saying he was better then some all time greats. Is Ubaldo a very very good pitcher? Yes? Is he better then 1999-2000 Pedro? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE
The season isn't over yet...
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blueballs wrote:
UNHWildCats wrote: only cause people were saying he was better then some all time greats. Is Ubaldo a very very good pitcher? Yes? Is he better then 1999-2000 Pedro? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE
The season isn't over yet...
And when it is he will have about 23 wins and an ERA between 3.00 and 3.50
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who... you bozos goinbg gaga over Ubaldo? Or my coment about Lester and Buchholz? cause boy I got stats to back up my claim.. :thumb:
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MrTitleist wrote:What the hell are you smoking? Strasburg can't touch Ubaldo right now, he's a rookie that got his first two starts cherry picked and has been battered ever since. And who in the AL can compare? Price? Garza?
Buchholz & Lester to name two
Wait, are you actually trying to compare Clay Buchholz to Ubaldo Jimenez???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The only comparison between those two is that they're right-handed pitchers. Buchholz couldn't carry Ubaldo's jock strap.
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UNHWildCats wrote: Buchholz & Lester to name two
Wait, are you actually trying to compare Clay Buchholz to Ubaldo Jimenez???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The only comparison between those two is that they're right-handed pitchers. Buchholz couldn't carry Ubaldo's jock strap.
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You don't have stats to back anything up. Ubaldo leads both in wins, ERA, WHIP, CG, 2nd to Lester in walks and Ks. What stats?
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UNHWildCats wrote:
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Wait, are you actually trying to compare Clay Buchholz to Ubaldo Jimenez???

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The only comparison between those two is that they're right-handed pitchers. Buchholz couldn't carry Ubaldo's jock strap.
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MrTitleist wrote:You don't have stats to back anything up. Ubaldo leads both in wins, ERA, WHIP, CG, 2nd to Lester in walks and Ks. What stats?
You can't compare complete games or innings pitched between AL & NL pitchers unless there is a HUGE margin because pitchers have to bat in the NL, which means they get pinch hit for in late and close situations.
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Unless your name is Mike Hampton. Then you become a pinch hitter and runner. :) But you make a point.. one more reason why NL pitchers are tougher. :)
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Gee,

Another BAD day for Jimenez...............If I remember right, I think someone with a moniker much the same as mine said that he'd have a much tougher 2nd and 3rd trip through the teams. Didn't even get any outs in the 3rd today before being pulled. Has a 10.0 ERA last 3 games.
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Man Rockies have sucked on the road, they definitely need to step their road game up.
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VictorG wrote:Gee,

Another BAD day for Jimenez...............If I remember right, I think someone with a moniker much the same as mine said that he'd have a much tougher 2nd and 3rd trip through the teams. Didn't even get any outs in the 3rd today before being pulled. Has a 10.0 ERA last 3 games.
Jimenez has definitely been struggling of late. I also don't think he has had a lot of success against the Phillies so far in his career.

After watching todays game, I wonder if there isn't something wrong with him.
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I don't think there's anything majorly wrong with him, because his velocity was still good, hit 98-99 a few times. He's just lost command off all his pitches, so that would point to something up with his mechanics that might need to be tweaked. Plus the Roxs have been horrible on the road this year doesn't help either.
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Jibjab wrote:I don't think there's anything majorly wrong with him, because his velocity was still good, hit 98-99 a few times. He's just lost command off all his pitches, so that would point to something up with his mechanics that might need to be tweaked. Plus the Roxs have been horrible on the road this year doesn't help either.
Lost command of his pitches or are the batters being more patient. Taking a few more pitches than the 1st or 2nd time they saw him earlier in the year. Hitters adjust to pitchers throughout the year and the pitchers also need to adjust. Jimenez may have to change things up a bit to get back on track.
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Didn't show a breaking ball at all today & couldn't get his fastball over. When he did it got hit around. Maybe the Phils are starting to hit again.
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Just checked today's box score. 6 earned runs in 2 innings. He escaped a basses loaded situation in the 2nd and all runs came in the 3rd when he couldn't get an out. 6 walks as well.
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Rockies are REALLY struggling right now.. no one on the pitching staff is throwing real well.. this is a common Rockies problem in July. Not only are they not pitching, but they're not hitting. The team is hitting under .200 since the All-Star break. The bats need to wake up and help these pitchers out.. hopefully with Tulo coming back on Wednesday the team will get a little jumpstart.
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VictorG wrote:
Jibjab wrote:I don't think there's anything majorly wrong with him, because his velocity was still good, hit 98-99 a few times. He's just lost command off all his pitches, so that would point to something up with his mechanics that might need to be tweaked. Plus the Roxs have been horrible on the road this year doesn't help either.
Lost command of his pitches or are the batters being more patient. Taking a few more pitches than the 1st or 2nd time they saw him earlier in the year. Hitters adjust to pitchers throughout the year and the pitchers also need to adjust. Jimenez may have to change things up a bit to get back on track.

Both, Philly has always been a patient hitting ball club. That's one thing that I was impressed with them last year in the playoff against Colorado, how patient they were at the plate and how good of an eye they had.

Title, I agree, getting Tulo back should provide a spark. Just hope this road trip doesn't fatigue them too much, 3 day games in a row in that Philly heat and humidity.
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Bwhahahahhahaah better then 1999-00 PEDRO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAhA

Im enjoying every ass kicking he is getting....

Maybe now people will shut up about comparing him to all time greats :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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