Michigan has their guy....

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:36 pm

Some here are going to be mighty disappointed.

SignonSanDiego is reporting that San Diego State head man Brady Hoke has been hired at Michigan.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011 ... -michigan/

I'm questioning this move. In time spent at Ball State and San Diego State, he really only has this bowl win over Navy to hang his hat on. He has a losing record otherwise....

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:37 pm

this is a good pick, a sleeper pick, but a good one. He's turned around some programs and he's not a bad coach at all. He'll do well I think

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:44 pm

youngterrier wrote:this is a good pick, a sleeper pick, but a good one. He's turned around some programs and he's not a bad coach at all. He'll do well I think

You could be right. Turns out he IS known there because he had an assistant's turn there. But knowing the folks in charge up there, his turn-around had better look like SDSU and NOT Ball State. He was foundering at Ball State for several before they suddenly came on. I know that rebuilding programs take time, but with programs like Michigan's, often people don't have that kind of patience.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:46 pm

Nope, sorry. Might be a great coach, but he's not a great pick. You really think Michigan fans will be happy with a guy from San Diego State? I give him three years before the Maize nuts run him out of town.

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:48 pm

SuperHornet wrote:
youngterrier wrote:this is a good pick, a sleeper pick, but a good one. He's turned around some programs and he's not a bad coach at all. He'll do well I think
You could be right. Turns out he IS known there because he had an assistant's turn there. But knowing the folks in charge up there, his turn-around had better look like SDSU and NOT Ball State. He was foundering at Ball State for several before they suddenly came on. I know that rebuilding programs take time, but with programs like Michigan's, often people don't have that kind of patience.

It's easier to recruit at San Diego than it is to recruit at Ball State. It's even easier to recruit at Michigan, the program sells itself. He's a good coach and has done well with what little he has, he should do better with a prestigious school like Michigan

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 2:59 pm

youngterrier wrote:
SuperHornet wrote:
You could be right. Turns out he IS known there because he had an assistant's turn there. But knowing the folks in charge up there, his turn-around had better look like SDSU and NOT Ball State. He was foundering at Ball State for several before they suddenly came on. I know that rebuilding programs take time, but with programs like Michigan's, often people don't have that kind of patience.
It's easier to recruit at San Diego than it is to recruit at Ball State. It's even easier to recruit at Michigan, the program sells itself. He's a good coach and has done well with what little he has, he should do better with a prestigious school like Michigan

You could be right about that, too, but answer me this: if that's the case, then how was it that a much more established guy with the street-cred that Rich-Rod had at WVU blew it so spectacularly? I mean, he had all the advantages of a B(C)$ conference school with tradition in a place with a boatload of talent just waiting to be picked....

youngterrier · Post by **youngterrier** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:12 pm

SuperHornet wrote:
youngterrier wrote: It's easier to recruit at San Diego than it is to recruit at Ball State. It's even easier to recruit at Michigan, the program sells itself. He's a good coach and has done well with what little he has, he should do better with a prestigious school like Michigan
You could be right about that, too, but answer me this: if that's the case, then how was it that a much more established guy with the street-cred that Rich-Rod had at WVU blew it so spectacularly? I mean, he had all the advantages of a B(C)$ conference school with tradition in a place with a boatload of talent just waiting to be picked....

the cupboard was bare when he got there, His defensive coordinator sucked royally the last 2 years, not to mention he never got the full support of Alumni

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:30 pm

Great Hire for Michigan

Skjellyfetti · Post by **Skjellyfetti** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:35 pm

He could do great things.... but, no way this is a great hire. He's at best their 3rd choice. That's not good for a once great program like Michigan.

Post by **dbackjon** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:37 pm

Skjellyfetti wrote:He could do great things.... but, no way this is a great hire. He's at best their 3rd choice. That's not good for a once great program like Michigan.

First two would have been out of this world hires:

Harbaugh
Miles

Hoke will win, and win big at Michigan.

DJH · Post by **DJH** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:56 pm

Just look at all the successful coaches in the B10. None of them were "big splash" hires.

The biggest "splash hire" that a B10 team has made in many years was Rich Rod, and that was a disaster.

proasu89 · Post by **proasu89** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:11 pm

ESPN just reported that when Brady Hoke took the Aztec job he replaced......Jim Harbaugh

griz37 · Post by **griz37** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:46 pm

Die hard Michigan fan here. Not real enthusiastic about this pick. Hoke is 47-50 as a head coach, never been a coordinator & has compared the spread offense to "communism". If he had not been on Carr's staff he would have never even had a sniff for this job. If this is the guy Domino's Dave Brandon wanted he should have hired him after the Ohio St. game, instead he swings & misses on Harbaugh & Miles & finally on 1/11 he gets his third choice, ridiculous.

I would have preferred to have kept Rich Rod w/a new defensive coordinator, seems like we have another 2-3 years of rebuilding ahead of us.

That said, I sure hope I am eating my words one year from now as Michigan celebrates a Rose Bowl victory.

FargoBison · Post by **FargoBison** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:47 pm

This would be a decent hire if the school was Minnesota, the only reason Michigan hired him is because he is a "Michigan man."

SuperHornet · Post by **SuperHornet** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:00 pm

Clearly, the #1 pick was Harbaugh. Strike One.

But was Miles really Strike Two? I didn't hear much about Miles other than speculation both here and with one of my Michigan fan friends until AFTER Hoke was hired, when I saw an article saying that Miles was staying put.

Did Miles announce that before Hoke was hired, or did he announce it to save face after getting the shaft? Such things have happened before.

FargoBison · Post by **FargoBison** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:04 pm

Miles was strike two with an exclamation point.

DJH · Post by **DJH** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:35 pm

Deadspin says it best:

Michigan Man Brady Hoke Will Coach Michigan Men At Michigan, According To Michigan

Michigan Man Brady "Michigan Man" Hoke is a Michiganly Michigan Man who Michigan Manned at Michigan for Michigan years. "Michigan Men are Michiganed to announce the Michiganing of Michigan Man," said Michigan's director of Michletics. Michigan Michigan Schembechler Michigan? Man.

Post by **SDHornet** » Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:24 pm

proasu89 wrote:ESPN just reported that when Brady Hoke took the Aztec job he replaced......Jim Harbaugh

At least they got the right city.

SDSU ≠ USD

Hoke will do fine at Michigan. He made SDSU well aware that his dream job is Michigan when he was hired on Montezuma Mesa. To make matters interesting, I think SDSU plays at Michigan in the coming years. I just hope SDSU can stay competitive, had Hoke not been hired by Michigan, I think the Aztecs would have challenged for the MWC title. Hoke make college football relevant in SD again, hopefully it stays that way.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:42 am

dbackjon wrote:Hoke will win, and win big at Michigan.

I'm sure all the Michigan fans are breathing a lot easier now that you've said that.

Post by **bandl** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:52 am

Hoke would be a great hire for Eastern Michigan or Central Michigan...but THE University of Michigan??? Come on, he's a nobody with less credibility than Rod had. He's a filler until the right candidate is available next year or the year after. This is flat out embarrassing for such a once-proud program, and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

Post by **DSUrocks07** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:06 am

Quick...name the last big-time splash coach who was very successful in the Big Ten...

Exactly...Hoke will do fine. He's not gonna win a national championship next year but neither was Miles or Harbaugh.

Post by **andy7171** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:17 am

I'll give him 5 years before they run him out of town, assuming Jim Harbaugh doesn't get fired from the 49ers.

89Hen · Post by **89Hen** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:50 am

DSUrocks07 wrote:Quick...name the last big-time splash coach who was very successful in the Big Ten...

Exactly...Hoke will do fine. He's not gonna win a national championship next year but neither was Miles or Harbaugh.

Name the last big-time splash coach hired by a Big Ten...

Ron Zook? He was one of the worst coaches at Florida.
Bret Bielema?
Danny Hope?

Your logic is flawed.

Hoke could be good, look at Tressel, but chances are he will not have enough time to succeed at Michigan.

Post by **UNI88** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:12 pm

dbackjon wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:He could do great things.... but, no way this is a great hire. He's at best their 3rd choice. That's not good for a once great program like Michigan.
First two would have been out of this world hires:

Harbaugh
Miles

Hoke will win, and win big at Michigan.

I like the hire. Hoke's losing record doesn't concern me because he took over two losing programs and turned them around, you incur a some losses doing that and it takes a few years to get your overall record close to .500. The bigger concern is that he hasn't stayed anywhere long enough to demonstrate that he can sustain success.

IMO, Miles has just as many questions marks as Hoke. Relevant or not, there is the perception the Miles won the NC with Saban's recruits. His defense the past few years has been excellent but his offense has been horrific (the exact opposite of RichRod). His decision-making and clock management would drive the Michigan faithful completely nuts. Is he successful at LSU because he's a good coach & recruiter or is he successful as a coach & recruiter because he's at LSU?

Post by **DSUrocks07** » Wed Jan 12, 2011 12:47 pm

89Hen wrote:
DSUrocks07 wrote:Quick...name the last big-time splash coach who was very successful in the Big Ten...

Exactly...Hoke will do fine. He's not gonna win a national championship next year but neither was Miles or Harbaugh.
Name the last big-time splash coach hired by a Big Ten...

Ron Zook? He was one of the worst coaches at Florida.
Bret Bielema?
Danny Hope?

Your logic is flawed.

Hoke could be good, look at Tressel, but chances are he will not have enough time to succeed at Michigan.

And Harbaugh or Miles would of gotten that time?

I'm only referring to the talk that because it's wasn't those two and Michigan didn't get their first choice that Hoke is gonna be a flop.

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