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Jane, you ignorant slut.

Do you have any clue, do you? Do you know which country holds a HUGE portion of our debt? JAPAN. As was stated above, all they'd have to do is call in that debt - and we'd be more **** than Snooki during Fleet Week.

Setting aside that very practical consideration, is this:

We've just watched a first world superpower get turned in to a third world country in some places by an act of nature. A calamity on a scale so large, that it will become the standard by which **** up situations are measured for a generation. When your friend is brought to their knees in that way, you don't look at them and say "tough ****, I've got a few problems of my own." You nut the **** up and help - because that's what a man does. You help them because they helped you... and not that long ago. In the wake of 9-11 and Katrina - the Japanese proved nothing but steadfast allies - helping however and wherever they could. As recently as last summer - the Japanese sent experts and technology to help **** the situation the Gulf of Mexico - because that's what allies do.

It's fortunate we don't have "certified geniuses" like you running things. For all of their squabbling, for all of their bickering - you notice what isn't happening right now in Washington? Nobody is advocating what you are. Because what you're advocating is simply retarded. Instead - we're showing the world that when we act as a force in this world, far more often than not, we act as a force for good - and we do so without expectation of repayment, we do so because we still are the leaders of the free world and the most powerful nation on earth - and because we recognize that such a position carries with it responsibilities.

In times of crisis, leaders step up and lead - cowards shirk their responsibility to their fellow man. :coffee:
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OK then if we give them any money make sure its credited to the Debt we owe them, Im cool with that. I would love to be able to pay debts off with money I dont have!! If you can do it, go for it!

I agree with the first poster. Not one penny should be sent to Japan because we dont have the money to be handing this sh*t away like its candy. That is the kind of fiscal responsibility that got us into the hole we are in now. Sure its nice for you guys to be compassionate and give money to other countries in times like this, thats fine as long as it is YOUR money and not ours.

When you have a ton of extra money its very nice to donate and be generous but when you dont have money, you simply dont. If you do, your an asshole that gonna be in debt for life.
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I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
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tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
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i see what you did there...
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
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i see what you did there...
Really? Is Japan's earthquake "our business"? Are all of "our problems" solved?
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tampa_griz wrote:
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i see what you did there...
Really? Is Japan's earthquake "our business"? Are all of "our problems" solved?
let's play a game:

Japan: asking for our help
Iraq: not

Japan: crippled by a natural disaster that isn't even described in the Bible
Iraq: not

Japan: long-standing ally who has helped our country in our times of need for decades
Iraq: not

I could go on, but I do I really have to?
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tampa_griz wrote:
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i see what you did there...
Really? Is Japan's earthquake "our business"? Are all of "our problems" solved?
Do you really not see the difference between providing humanitarian assistance and an all-out, unilateral invasion? :facepalm:
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tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
If we send 4,000+ Americans to die rescuing Japanese from rubble, then, yeah, you'd probably see the same responses.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
If we send 4,000+ Americans to die rescuing Japanese from rubble, then, yeah, you'd probably see the same responses.
meh - only if the earthquake and tsunami had been in Taiwan, but we went to Japan instead...
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote: let's play a game:

Japan: asking for our help
Iraq: Kurds and Shiite Muslims
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Japan: crippled by a natural disaster that isn't even described in the Bible
Iraq: a man-made disaster responsible for more death and misery than the earthquakes in Haiti and Japan combined
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:Japan: long-standing ally who has helped our country in our times of need for decades
Iraq: again, see Kurdish allies mentioned above
TwinTownBisonFan wrote:I could go on, but I do I really have to?
So far you're 0-3.
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Grizalltheway wrote:
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Really? Is Japan's earthquake "our business"? Are all of "our problems" solved?
Do you really not see the difference between providing humanitarian assistance and an all-out, unilateral invasion? :facepalm:
Operation Iraqi Freedom was and is humanitarian assistance unless of course you believe the hundreds of thousands he murdered, tortured, and starved to not be human. Or perhaps in your view his victims deserved it?
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If we have the $$$ to pay Japan to clean up their mess, we best have the $$$ to take care of the stuff in our own damn country that needs taken care of.

Time to be selfish. We must take care of ourself FIRST, our needs FIRST.

The days of the good old USA being able to pay the bill for every fucking thing that goes wrong anywhere on the globe have to be over.

If we can't afford, in these dire and desperate economic times, to extend un-employment benefits and guarantee fair and equal access to the all citizens to the greatest health care system on the globe, we have no ability to spend one single cent on foreign aid.

If they were a third world ceaspool with urine and feces running through the streets even before the disaster, fine, throw them some help because they just don't have the ability to help themselves.

But Japan is the 3rd largest economy on the planet, perfectly able to help themselves. We ain't gonna all of a sudden stop buying Honda's or Toyota's. It will take time, but they're resourceful folks and will be just fine on their own.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
If we send 4,000+ Americans to die rescuing Japanese from rubble, then, yeah, you'd probably see the same responses.
OK. So going to Iraq wasn't wrong because it was none of our business nor should any problems "here" prevent us from deposing of dictators. It was because American forces might be killed? I just need to try and stay on the same page here.
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tampa_griz wrote:
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If we send 4,000+ Americans to die rescuing Japanese from rubble, then, yeah, you'd probably see the same responses.
OK. So going to Iraq wasn't wrong because it was none of our business nor should any problems "here" prevent us from deposing of dictators. It was because American forces might be killed? I just need to try and stay on the same page here.
got it. you are an actual retard - you don't just play one on TV...

if you can't see the difference between invading a sovereign nation by force to overthrow their government, and assisting an allied government recovering from a natural disaster - there is no hope for you, and for the sake of the University of Montana, I hope to hell they didn't give you a diploma.
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tampa_griz wrote: OK. So going to Iraq wasn't wrong because it was none of our business nor should any problems "here" prevent us from deposing of dictators. It was because American forces might be killed? I just need to try and stay on the same page here.
We were in Iraq long before 2003 enforcing a no-fly zone and UN sanctions. There were very few casualties from 1992-2002.

If the Iraq War was fought from 2003-now with very few casualties... you wouldn't have seen near the protests... and support for the war wouldn't have bottomed out at the end of Bush's term.

Yes, casualties are kinda a big deal as far as public support for foreign intervention goes. :coffee:
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OSBF wrote:If we have the $$$ to pay Japan to clean up their mess, we best have the $$$ to take care of the stuff in our own damn country that needs taken care of.

Time to be selfish. We must take care of ourself FIRST, our needs FIRST.

The days of the good old USA being able to pay the bill for every fucking thing that goes wrong anywhere on the globe have to be over.

If we can't afford, in these dire and desperate economic times, to extend un-employment benefits and guarantee fair and equal access to the all citizens to the greatest health care system on the globe, we have no ability to spend one single cent on foreign aid.

If they were a third world ceaspool with urine and feces running through the streets even before the disaster, fine, throw them some help because they just don't have the ability to help themselves.

But Japan is the 3rd largest economy on the planet, perfectly able to help themselves. We ain't gonna all of a sudden stop buying Honda's or Toyota's. It will take time, but they're resourceful folks and will be just fine on their own.
in what fucking world are we "paying the bill for everything" in Japan? we are helping our ally you stupid tit, not rebuilding their entire economy by ourselves.

you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
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tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
Troll post, and not even a good one.

Fuck-tard! :nod:

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Wedgebuster wrote:
tampa_griz wrote:I wonder if those that argued against the Iraq war on the grounds that "it's none of our business" and "we have problems here" are arguing the same thing with regard to Japan.
Troll post, and not even a good one.

Fuck-tard! :nod:

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TwinTownBisonFan wrote: you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
OSBF wrote:If we have the $$$ to pay Japan to clean up their mess, we best have the $$$ to take care of the stuff in our own damn country that needs taken care of.

Time to be selfish. We must take care of ourself FIRST, our needs FIRST.

The days of the good old USA being able to pay the bill for every fucking thing that goes wrong anywhere on the globe have to be over.

If we can't afford, in these dire and desperate economic times, to extend un-employment benefits and guarantee fair and equal access to the all citizens to the greatest health care system on the globe, we have no ability to spend one single cent on foreign aid.

If they were a third world ceaspool with urine and feces running through the streets even before the disaster, fine, throw them some help because they just don't have the ability to help themselves.

But Japan is the 3rd largest economy on the planet, perfectly able to help themselves. We ain't gonna all of a sudden stop buying Honda's or Toyota's. It will take time, but they're resourceful folks and will be just fine on their own.
in what fucking world are we "paying the bill for everything" in Japan? we are helping our ally you stupid tit, not rebuilding their entire economy by ourselves.

you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
The smartest guy in a room, the one that speaks with wisdom and truth, is rarely understood by those of lower intellect. There was a time when I held out hope you weren't as big a dumbass as most here. I'm sorry I was incorrect, first time this year.

If we spend public money in Japan it makes us EXACTLY the kind of guy the conktards love to hate. You know, the guy on un-employment or welfare that smokes 2 packs a day, has a wide screen high def 3D hanging on the family room wall, but then goes and signs his kids up for free lunch at school. If he can pay for that TV, why the fuck does he need free lunch for his kids? Pay for your own damn lunch Japan.
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OSBF wrote:
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in what fucking world are we "paying the bill for everything" in Japan? we are helping our ally you stupid tit, not rebuilding their entire economy by ourselves.

you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
The smartest guy in a room, the one that speaks with wisdom and truth, is rarely understood by those of lower intellect. There was a time when I held out hope you weren't as big a dumbass as most here. I'm sorry I was incorrect, first time this year.

If we spend public money in Japan it makes us EXACTLY the kind of guy the conktards love to hate. You know, the guy on un-employment or welfare that smokes 2 packs a day, has a wide screen high def 3D hanging on the family room wall, but then goes and signs his kids up for free lunch at school. If he can pay for that TV, why the fuck does he need free lunch for his kids? Pay for your own damn lunch Japan.
dear God, the pompous-fake-member-of-MENSA response? really? that's the best you've got?

weak shit... weak...

this has devolved in to bad trolling...
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TwinTownBisonFan wrote:
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The smartest guy in a room, the one that speaks with wisdom and truth, is rarely understood by those of lower intellect. There was a time when I held out hope you weren't as big a dumbass as most here. I'm sorry I was incorrect, first time this year.

If we spend public money in Japan it makes us EXACTLY the kind of guy the conktards love to hate. You know, the guy on un-employment or welfare that smokes 2 packs a day, has a wide screen high def 3D hanging on the family room wall, but then goes and signs his kids up for free lunch at school. If he can pay for that TV, why the **** does he need free lunch for his kids? Pay for your own damn lunch Japan.
dear God, the pompous-fake-member-of-MENSA response? really? that's the best you've got?

weak ****... weak...

this has devolved in to bad trolling...
Dead giveaway. He spells Mensa: "MENSA."

No Mensa member would do that. :nod:
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OSBF wrote:
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in what fucking world are we "paying the bill for everything" in Japan? we are helping our ally you stupid tit, not rebuilding their entire economy by ourselves.

you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
The smartest guy in a room, the one that speaks with wisdom and truth, is rarely understood by those of lower intellect. There was a time when I held out hope you weren't as big a dumbass as most here. I'm sorry I was incorrect, first time this year.

If we spend public money in Japan it makes us EXACTLY the kind of guy the conktards love to hate. You know, the guy on un-employment or welfare that smokes 2 packs a day, has a wide screen high def 3D hanging on the family room wall, but then goes and signs his kids up for free lunch at school. If he can pay for that TV, why the fuck does he need free lunch for his kids? Pay for your own damn lunch Japan.
If this is the case, oh wise one, then why is there bipartisan support for calling you out as incorrect? I mean, I know you're clearly smarter than everybody here, but we Enquirer-reading mouthbreathers would like to know.
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OSBF wrote:
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in what fucking world are we "paying the bill for everything" in Japan? we are helping our ally you stupid tit, not rebuilding their entire economy by ourselves.

you got your ignorant ass beat down. by an unlikely coalition of conks and donks on this board... it takes a special kind of stupid bring that level of consensus.
The smartest guy in a room, the one that speaks with wisdom and truth, is rarely understood by those of lower intellect. There was a time when I held out hope you weren't as big a dumbass as most here. I'm sorry I was incorrect, first time this year.

If we spend public money in Japan it makes us EXACTLY the kind of guy the conktards love to hate. You know, the guy on un-employment or welfare that smokes 2 packs a day, has a wide screen high def 3D hanging on the family room wall, but then goes and signs his kids up for free lunch at school. If he can pay for that TV, why the fuck does he need free lunch for his kids? Pay for your own damn lunch Japan.
Silly way to look at it. I would usually agree with what you're saying. Let people do for themselves but if they suffer from something like this and they are a major business partner...and a major ally...in a very uncertain time in history I can't think of a more appropriate time to make sure that those that are your friends are doing the very best that they can in a very bad situation.

An ally that will or has helped us in this same type of situation didn't turn their back on us. I think in the interest of being a man about it I'm gonna side with extending the hand to help them up. The weaker your partners are, the weaker you are.
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Dear Tampa,

FWIW - Just ignore TTBF, GATW and KYJelly they are so far left they cant even see earth anymore. Most of us like them to keep posting so we can keep laughing. They are BAC x 1000.


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