Why is the federal government in the package delivery business, or in the rail business, or in the home mortgage business, or the student loan business, or in the car business, or in the radio and TV business, or, or, or...?mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????
5M is greater than 500M
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
each thing you have mentioned benefits society by helping people send packages to each other, travel, have homes, get educations, have transportation to work, and be advised of news and other info.... what benefit does a NASCAR team that sucks have on society?Baldy wrote:Why is the federal government in the package delivery business, or in the rail business, or in the home mortgage business, or the student loan business, or in the car business, or in the radio and TV business, or, or, or...?mainejeff wrote:Why is the Federal government funding anything to do with NASCAR?????
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UNHWildCats wrote:each thing you have mentioned benefits society by helping people send packages to each other, travel, have homes, get educations, have transportation to work, and be advised of news and other info.... what benefit does a NASCAR team that sucks have on society?Baldy wrote:
Why is the federal government in the package delivery business, or in the rail business, or in the home mortgage business, or the student loan business, or in the car business, or in the radio and TV business, or, or, or...?
As usual, you miss the point. Who gives a fuck about NASCAR? The feds have about as much business sponsoring NASCAR as they do in any of those other businesses.
And ALL of those things have a net negative on society, Amtrak and the post office are running billions in the red while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price. Fannie and Freddie? Yeah we saw very well what happens when the government gives homes to people who aren't able to afford them, bankruptcy and untold hundreds of billions in bailouts. Next time, try renting. Etc. Etc. Etc...
You gotta do better than that, Travis....
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
You mean to tell me I can go to FedEx or UPS and send a 1 ounce package from Bangher Maine to San Diego for under 50 fucking cents???????????????Baldy wrote: while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
The USPS receives no federal funding, its costs are 100% funded by postage fees.Baldy wrote:UNHWildCats wrote: each thing you have mentioned benefits society by helping people send packages to each other, travel, have homes, get educations, have transportation to work, and be advised of news and other info.... what benefit does a NASCAR team that sucks have on society?![]()
As usual, you miss the point. Who gives a fuck about NASCAR? The feds have about as much business sponsoring NASCAR as they do in any of those other businesses.
And ALL of those things have a net negative on society, Amtrak and the post office are running billions in the red while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price. Fannie and Freddie? Yeah we saw very well what happens when the government gives homes to people who aren't able to afford them, bankruptcy and untold hundreds of billions in bailouts. Next time, try renting. Etc. Etc. Etc...
You gotta do better than that, Travis....
Re: 5M is greater than 500M
Because of a government controlled monopoly you can't, but you can send a one ounce package from Bangor, ME to San Diego overnight cheaper and more reliably than the USPS.OSBF wrote:You mean to tell me I can go to FedEx or UPS and send a 1 ounce package from Bangher Maine to San Diego for under 50 fucking cents???????????????Baldy wrote: while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price.
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Tell me that when the government bails it out of it's $8 Billion hole.UNHWildCats wrote:The USPS receives no federal funding, its costs are 100% funded by postage fees.Baldy wrote:![]()
As usual, you miss the point. Who gives a fuck about NASCAR? The feds have about as much business sponsoring NASCAR as they do in any of those other businesses.
And ALL of those things have a net negative on society, Amtrak and the post office are running billions in the red while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price. Fannie and Freddie? Yeah we saw very well what happens when the government gives homes to people who aren't able to afford them, bankruptcy and untold hundreds of billions in bailouts. Next time, try renting. Etc. Etc. Etc...
You gotta do better than that, Travis....
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
Tax Payers are spending roughly 20M in total for the US Army sponserships in NASCAR and NHRA.
http://www.turret.com/content/house-rej ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.turret.com/content/house-rej ... ponsorship" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
they cant afford to piss off southern rednecks, since that is where most of their electorate is.OSBF wrote:More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.
Re: 5M is greater than 500M
UNHWildCats wrote:they cant afford to piss off southern rednecks, since that is where most of their electorate is.OSBF wrote:More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.

Yeah, all the NASCAR fans are in the South. Try again.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
Are you on vacation today or are you screwing the taxpayers by surfing the internet at work?OSBF wrote:More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
I never said all fans are in the south, but the south are where a majorty of the fans are, especially the diehards... and I would say a super majority of NASCAR fans vote republican.
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You do understand that this comes from the advertising budget...mainejeff wrote:It's complete bullshit. We already fund the military with an advertising budget. Let them take the money out of that.AZGrizFan wrote:
Lots of southern rednecks in the military.
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The fact that our Armed forces have an advertising budget is ridiculous (Period)Col Hogan wrote:You do understand that this comes from the advertising budget...mainejeff wrote:
It's complete bullshit. We already fund the military with an advertising budget. Let them take the money out of that.
I get taxed to pay for an advertisement
Fuck me...
According to the Department of Defense's budget materials on their website, the combined military recruitment and advertising budget is $1,407,100,000 ($1.4 billion). Here is a break down by branch of the military:
ARMY $854,146,000
NAVY $297,141,000
MARINE CORPS $123,465,000
AIR FORCE $132,349,000
Now that is a FUCKING crime right there... that is shoveling money into a fire pit if ever there was
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Military should be viewed no differently than any other government unit in these times of limited funds and short bugets. If they can't proove a positive return to the taxpayer for the investment we trust them with, cut their nuts off.
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OSBF wrote:Military should be viewed no differently than any other government unit in these times of limited funds and short bugets. If they can't proove a positive return to the taxpayer for the investment we trust them with, cut their nuts off.
Ads for the friggin USPS royally piss me off.
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That approach would distinguish you as the only unemployed Mensa member in your small, central Illinois shit hole of a town.OSBF wrote:Military should be viewed no differently than any other government unit in these times of limited funds and short bugets. If they can't proove a positive return to the taxpayer for the investment we trust them with, cut their nuts off.
National defense is a constitutionally mandated responsibility of the federal government. I'm pretty sure we could get along quite well with your little piece of the bureaucracy.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
agreeWedgebuster wrote:OSBF wrote:Military should be viewed no differently than any other government unit in these times of limited funds and short bugets. If they can't proove a positive return to the taxpayer for the investment we trust them with, cut their nuts off.
Ads for the friggin USPS royally piss me off.
no need at all
Re: 5M is greater than 500M
Where was this feigned outrage when Chrysler (who is in receivership to the federal government) spent almost $9 Million of taxpayer money on a single (1) Super Bowl ad?OSBF wrote:More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.
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this is absurd.Baldy wrote:UNHWildCats wrote: each thing you have mentioned benefits society by helping people send packages to each other, travel, have homes, get educations, have transportation to work, and be advised of news and other info.... what benefit does a NASCAR team that sucks have on society?![]()
As usual, you miss the point. Who gives a fuck about NASCAR? The feds have about as much business sponsoring NASCAR as they do in any of those other businesses.
And ALL of those things have a net negative on society, Amtrak and the post office are running billions in the red while private entities like FedEx and UPS are making billions doing the same thing at a cheaper price. Fannie and Freddie? Yeah we saw very well what happens when the government gives homes to people who aren't able to afford them, bankruptcy and untold hundreds of billions in bailouts. Next time, try renting. Etc. Etc. Etc...
You gotta do better than that, Travis....
the point of USPS isn't to be profitable. the whole point of USPS... the reason it exists - is to provide mail service to ALL Americans. do you really think UPS or FedEx would provide 6 days a week mail service to every address in America? of course not. USPS exists because such a thing is in the national interest - and private industry will not do it (largely BECAUSE it's not profitable)
as for cheaper? my ass. 44 cents for a first class letter--- the cheapest you can send anything ups ground for is like $3.50...
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
the USPS is not government funded... it is funded solely by postage costs to consumers.Wedgebuster wrote:OSBF wrote:Military should be viewed no differently than any other government unit in these times of limited funds and short bugets. If they can't proove a positive return to the taxpayer for the investment we trust them with, cut their nuts off.
Ads for the friggin USPS royally piss me off.
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Re: 5M is greater than 500M
Fiat can spend their $$ however they want to. If they want to advertise crappy cars that no body wants to buy, so be it. I just want to finally see some tits in one of those godaddy ads. THAT would make a great super bowl ad.Baldy wrote:Where was this feigned outrage when Chrysler (who is in receivership to the federal government) spent almost $9 Million of taxpayer money on a single (1) Super Bowl ad?OSBF wrote:More taxpayer financed motorsports. 20M from the National Guard and 1.6M from the US Air Force.
http://www.nesn.com/2011/02/amendment-t ... -down.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
We're up to a grand total of roughly 41.6M
These dickheads in the house get their panties all wadded up over 5M to NPR but turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to over 40M taxpayer dollars in motorsports spending.
cool.

