Appalachian State to CUSA?

[ASUSandman]

Good grief! I thought our people had finally out grown the home side / visitor side high school reference to bed. Is it any coincidence the people who still use this terminology are the ones wanting ASU to stay FCS. Wonder what they will call the north and south end zone stands when they are built?

Good grief! I used it as a point of reference for posters not familiar with our stadium. And I'm sorry, I've never heard of this "home side/visitor side" dilemma within the AppSt fanbase. I imagine it's a "dilemma" manufactured by persons trying to make our stadium out to be something much grander than it is. Is it any coincidence the people who would reference a supposed "home side/visitor side" dilemma with regard to our stadium are the same persons who would move to FBS at any cost in an effort to alleviate feelings of inferiority in an attempt validate App's existence within college football?

There is no “dilemma”, just people who refuse to lose the high school mentality that has plagued our school for decades. There are also no “feelings of inferiority” or “attempt validate App's existence within college football,” just a desire to see ASU’s program follow a natural progression and compete at a higher level. I’m sorry you can’t seem to grasp that simple concept.

[ASUSandman]

Good grief! I used it as a point of reference for posters not familiar with our stadium. And I'm sorry, I've never heard of this "home side/visitor side" dilemma within the AppSt fanbase. I imagine it's a "dilemma" manufactured by persons trying to make our stadium out to be something much grander than it is. Is it any coincidence the people who would reference a supposed "home side/visitor side" dilemma with regard to our stadium are the same persons who would move to FBS at any cost in an effort to alleviate feelings of inferiority in an attempt validate App's existence within college football?

The home side/visitor side thing was too **** dumb to even really acknowledge for me but since you quoted it I am wondering how it has anything to do with the back & forth. Was it meant to denigrate your/my argument here?



Isn't it a long held fact that the visiting team has one sideline (the visitors side), and the home team has their sideline (the home side)?

WTF?

I think every team has a home side/visitor side don't they? I know every game I've ever been to there has been one. What kind of a tool would you have to be to make that insignificant point some bone of contention?

That's some real dumb ass ****.

ASU's AD Charlie Cobb, in an attempt to change the small time mentality at ASU, made an issue out of the home side / visitor's side references several years back. So I guess he is the #1 dumb ass****.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

The home side/visitor side thing was too **** dumb to even really acknowledge for me but since you quoted it I am wondering how it has anything to do with the back & forth. Was it meant to denigrate your/my argument here?



Isn't it a long held fact that the visiting team has one sideline (the visitors side), and the home team has their sideline (the home side)?

WTF?

I think every team has a home side/visitor side don't they? I know every game I've ever been to there has been one. What kind of a tool would you have to be to make that insignificant point some bone of contention?

That's some real dumb ass ****.

ASU's AD Charlie Cobb, in an attempt to change the small time mentality at ASU, made an issue out of the home side / visitor's side references several years back. So I guess he is the #1 dumb ass****.

It would certainly appear so. That's a real dumb thing for a bright fella like Cobb to be concerned with. Does he get all "eye roley" and high and mighty if someone utters it in a simple conversation to expound on a point as well?

Little man syndrome has got be running real hot to take umbrage over something like that. Good luck with it.

[Appaholic]

Good grief! I used it as a point of reference for posters not familiar with our stadium. And I'm sorry, I've never heard of this "home side/visitor side" dilemma within the AppSt fanbase. I imagine it's a "dilemma" manufactured by persons trying to make our stadium out to be something much grander than it is. Is it any coincidence the people who would reference a supposed "home side/visitor side" dilemma with regard to our stadium are the same persons who would move to FBS at any cost in an effort to alleviate feelings of inferiority in an attempt validate App's existence within college football?

There is no “dilemma”, just people who refuse to lose the high school mentality that has plagued our school for decades. There are also no “feelings of inferiority” or “attempt validate App's existence within college football,” just a desire to see ASU’s program follow a natural progression and compete at a higher level. I’m sorry you can’t seem to grasp that simple concept.

Yes, and calling the side of the field behind the home team's sideline the "home side stands" is a dead giveaway of the high school mentality you speak about... ...another dead giveway of the high school mentality is doing what ever it takes in an attempt to hang out with the cool kids and denigrating others who can't understand it's importance.

[Appaholic]

Yep. Now I see where the Stepford Wives' mentality on MMB comes from....

ASU's AD Charlie Cobb, in an attempt to change the small time mentality at ASU, made an issue out of the home side / visitor's side references several years back. So I guess he is the #1 dumb ass****.

It would certainly appear so. That's a real dumb thing for a bright fella like Cobb to be concerned with. Does he get all "eye roley" and high and mighty if someone utters it in a simple conversation to expound on a point as well?

Little man syndrome has got be running real hot to take umbrage over something like that. Good luck with it.

Yes, apparantly App Nation has been overrun by the Stepford Wives' with regard to those who won't conform to the idea that FBS is always better...

[ASUMountaineer]

Nice, we'll definitely have to get up and enjoy a few.

I'll be in Huntervegas this Fri....send me your number for some drunk dialing....

Sounds good, I promise I'll answer...

[jacobadam]

I am not sure how App St has performed in non-football sports in the last few years BUT they have manned up in their own division for football and are a consistent winner. They also fill their stadium. I am not sure how their market and facilities will compare to other CUSA schools but an affiliation with CUSA would do nothing but help them.

And what "western" team would CUSA add as I doubt we would stop at 13.

[AppMan]

There is no “dilemma”, just people who refuse to lose the high school mentality that has plagued our school for decades. There are also no “feelings of inferiority” or “attempt validate App's existence within college football,” just a desire to see ASU’s program follow a natural progression and compete at a higher level. I’m sorry you can’t seem to grasp that simple concept.

Yes, and calling the side of the field behind the home team's sideline the "home side stands" is a dead giveaway of the high school mentality you speak about... ...another dead giveway of the high school mentality is doing what ever it takes in an attempt to hang out with the cool kids and denigrating others who can't understand it's importance.

Not understanding the importance of it IS the problem.

[ASUG8]

I sat on the visitor's side twice last season. Good seats.

[Appaholic]

Yes, and calling the side of the field behind the home team's sideline the "home side stands" is a dead giveaway of the high school mentality you speak about... ...another dead giveway of the high school mentality is doing what ever it takes in an attempt to hang out with the cool kids and denigrating others who can't understand it's importance.

Not understanding the importance of it IS the problem.

What? The importance of referencing a stadium side for person's not familiar with our stadium by home or visitor....a stadium, mind you, that is currently not enclosed and does, in fact, have two distinct sides? Yep, that's a problem. Tell you what, I'll start referring to the sides by east & west the day we hoist an FCS NC banner won by a different recruiting class.

[AppMan]

Not understanding the importance of it IS the problem.

What? The importance of referencing a stadium side for person's not familiar with our stadium by home or visitor....a stadium, mind you, that is currently not enclosed and does, in fact, have two distinct sides? Yep, that's a problem. Tell you what, I'll start referring to the sides by east & west the day we hoist an FCS NC banner won by a different recruiting class.

The very nature of the home / visitor's side verbiage exudes a high school image of the program. Whenever the new deck was built on the east side we decided to move over there. Someone asked why I would move to the "visitor's side". Told them I didn't realize those seats were being built for visiting fans and the people already sitting in the lower level dressed in Black and Gold were cheering for the visiting teams. Having been to nearly 50 1-AA / FCS stadiums over the years I can attest most actually do have a visitor's side, but that not the case at KBS.

Besides, what does winning another NC have to do with this topic?

[Appaholic]

What? The importance of referencing a stadium side for person's not familiar with our stadium by home or visitor....a stadium, mind you, that is currently not enclosed and does, in fact, have two distinct sides? Yep, that's a problem. Tell you what, I'll start referring to the sides by east & west the day we hoist an FCS NC banner won by a different recruiting class.

The very nature of the home / visitor's side verbiage exudes a high school image of the program. Whenever the new deck was built on the east side we decided to move over there. Someone asked why I would move to the "visitor's side". Told them I didn't realize those seats were being built for visiting fans and the people already sitting in the lower level dressed in Black and Gold were cheering for the visiting teams. Having been to nearly 50 1-AA / FCS stadiums over the years I can attest most actually do have a visitor's side, but that not the case at KBS.

Besides, what does winning another NC have to do with this topic?

About as much as the "home/visitor side debate" that apparantly is running rampant with regard to this topic....

Besides, the very nature of someone using the home/visitor side verbiage in an attempt to denigrate an otherwise valid point regarding this debate exudes a pretentious and elitist attitude usually reserved for the fans of our state's flagship university in Chapel Hill...

[collegesportsinfo]

I posted a new thread in the Other Sports section since it seems appropriate there...since they reportedly aren't interested in FCS upgrades.

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Keys are that they seem to be aiming at current FBS schools, not FCS schools in the area like App St, Charlotte, GA State, etc. Also hinting they aren't looking north (MAC, Temple, etc). As CUSA schools are not an option (downgrade), really only leaves LA Tech and NMSU

[SUUTbird]

I posted a new thread in the Other Sports section since it seems appropriate there...since they reportedly aren't interested in FCS upgrades.

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Keys are that they seem to be aiming at current FBS schools, not FCS schools in the area like App St, Charlotte, GA State, etc. Also hinting they aren't looking north (MAC, Temple, etc). As CUSA schools are not an option (downgrade), really only leaves LA Tech and NMSU

With the WAC in the state it is and losing member after member it wouldnt surprise me if La-Tech bolted for the Sunbelt in search of greener pastures . However I dont think this would be a bad move, no Idea why they are in the WAC in the first place.

[dbackjon]

I posted a new thread in the Other Sports section since it seems appropriate there...since they reportedly aren't interested in FCS upgrades.

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Keys are that they seem to be aiming at current FBS schools, not FCS schools in the area like App St, Charlotte, GA State, etc. Also hinting they aren't looking north (MAC, Temple, etc). As CUSA schools are not an option (downgrade), really only leaves LA Tech and NMSU

With the WAC in the state it is and losing member after member it wouldnt surprise me if La-Tech bolted for the Sunbelt in search of greener pastures . However I dont think this would be a bad move, no Idea why they are in the WAC in the first place.

Because before the recent upheveal, the WAC was a far superior conference, and LaTech doesn't want to be in a conference with La-Monroe/La-Lafayette

[collegesportsinfo]

With the WAC in the state it is and losing member after member it wouldnt surprise me if La-Tech bolted for the Sunbelt in search of greener pastures . However I dont think this would be a bad move, no Idea why they are in the WAC in the first place.

Because before the recent upheveal, the WAC was a far superior conference, and LaTech doesn't want to be in a conference with La-Monroe/La-Lafayette

Right on, Jon. Not to mention the WAC was pulling in good money for LA Tech, especially with the Boise St./Hawaii BCS revenue. That is no more. SB is better than WAC. Just too bad the SB couldn't "trade" UALR to WAC for NMSU and LA Tech for an even 12/12.

[AppMan]

The very nature of the home / visitor's side verbiage exudes a high school image of the program. Whenever the new deck was built on the east side we decided to move over there. Someone asked why I would move to the "visitor's side". Told them I didn't realize those seats were being built for visiting fans and the people already sitting in the lower level dressed in Black and Gold were cheering for the visiting teams. Having been to nearly 50 1-AA / FCS stadiums over the years I can attest most actually do have a visitor's side, but that not the case at KBS.

Besides, what does winning another NC have to do with this topic?

About as much as the "home/visitor side debate" that apparantly is running rampant with regard to this topic....

Besides, the very nature of someone using the home/visitor side verbiage in an attempt to denigrate an otherwise valid point regarding this debate exudes a usually reserved for the fans of our state's flagship university in Chapel Hill...

Considering there never was an intention to denigrate anything or anyone, your attempt to make a connection between my position and the "pretentious and elitist attitude" of unc-ch fans is a pretty feeble attempt at an insult. It is also pretty funny coming from someone who uses a character from Deliverance as his icon.

I do hope you realize while making your "valid point" you inadvertently did a masterful job of showing why the the Home / Visitor side terminology is so obviously inappropriate. Your reference picture clearly shows the stands in question filled with Black and Gold clad fans and the ASU band.

BTW, it is spelled apparently not apparantly.

[ASUG8]

I think I like the view from the visitor's side - you get a really good view of the press box on the home side.

[AppMan]

I posted a new thread in the Other Sports section since it seems appropriate there...since they reportedly aren't interested in FCS upgrades.

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Keys are that they seem to be aiming at current FBS schools, not FCS schools in the area like App St, Charlotte, GA State, etc. Also hinting they aren't looking north (MAC, Temple, etc). As CUSA schools are not an option (downgrade), really only leaves LA Tech and NMSU

Very curious position to take considering every one of their members is a 1-AA move up program.

[Mike Johnson]

[With the WAC in the state it is and losing member after member it wouldnt surprise me if La-Tech bolted for the Sunbelt in search of greener pastures . However I dont think this would be a bad move, no Idea why they are in the WAC in the first place.

NMSU, USU, and Idaho were once in the Sun Belt as well. I wonder if they would like to become football only affiliates as USU and Idaho were before.

[JBB]

I really doubt it's final already. The committee has only met twice so far. They did just have their second meeting on Monday and since then there's been a lot of buzz about the likelihood of moving up. I hope it's true, though. Conference USA would be the best possible scenario for us, imo. I'm skeptical, though.

I agree with those reporting the rumors. I think it's happening. It's like I told someone in the media who asked me about it. ASU didn't have to spend all that money on those enhancements to stay where they are right now. They did need to do it to move up. The chancellor is a businessman. If he wasn't moving up I think they needed to make improvements but nowhere near the levels they made. It seems pretty clear cut ASU intends to go FBS. Just a matter of time before the announcement is made.

Good points, but didnt Montana build their facilities up to be the big fish in the small pond? This opportunity is better though, so its more likely these are strong signals.

[Mike Johnson]

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[Mike Johnson]

Right on, Jon. Not to mention the WAC was pulling in good money for LA Tech, especially with the Boise St./Hawaii BCS revenue. That is no more. SB is better than WAC. Just too bad the SB couldn't "trade" UALR to WAC for NMSU and LA Tech for an even 12/12.

Sagarin's final ratings for both conferences this past year:

6 Boise State 93.03
16 Nevada 84.44
47 Hawaii 73.74
78 Fresno State 67.07

80 Troy 66.63
88 Fla. International 64.99
89 Idaho 64.81
91 Louisiana Tech 64.4
114 Utah State 59.45
117 Arkansas State 59.27
138 Middle Tennessee 55.27
140 Louisiana-Monroe 55.12
150 North Texas 53.78
155 Florida Atlantic 53.27
161 San Jose State 52.06
162 Louisiana-Lafayette 52.05
165 Western Kentucky 51.31
172 New Mexico State 50.18

With the top 4 WAC teams, the WAC is clearly superior to the Sun Belt. Without them, it is pretty much a wash. Bottom 5 WAC pretty much comparable top to bottom with the Sub Belt.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

About as much as the "home/visitor side debate" that apparantly is running rampant with regard to this topic....

Besides, the very nature of someone using the home/visitor side verbiage in an attempt to denigrate an otherwise valid point regarding this debate exudes a usually reserved for the fans of our state's flagship university in Chapel Hill...

Considering there never was an intention to denigrate anything or anyone, your attempt to make a connection between my position and the "pretentious and elitist attitude" of unc-ch fans is a pretty feeble attempt at an insult. It is also pretty funny coming from someone who uses a character from Deliverance as his icon.

I do hope you realize while making your "valid point" you inadvertently did a masterful job of showing why the the Home / Visitor side terminology is so obviously inappropriate. Your reference picture clearly shows the stands in question filled with Black and Gold clad fans and the ASU band.

BTW, it is spelled apparently not apparantly.

Oh NO! A deliverance character as an avatar! Holy shit, how dare he Mortimer!

You really are trying to escape your hillbilly nature by putting on this pretentious fuck persona aren't ya. You want the public change to any other commonly used language to describe anything else there Hootie? Maybe you should enforce some sort of rule on the grass hill that refers to it as the second cut or something?

Anybody this worried about their image has some real problems. Work on it slick.

[JBB]

Talk about a schtick slick? You got one Good work.