NASCAR 2012

[89Hen]

Yep. Delaware loses a good brewery. They're standing up a new brewery/pub in downtown Salisbury. Can't blame 'em though. They've seriously outgrown the Delmar facility. Heck, in the dead of winter, they had 50 people easily in that tiny little tasting room.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/2012 ... +frontpage

[93henfan]

Yep. Delaware loses a good brewery. They're standing up a new brewery/pub in downtown Salisbury. Can't blame 'em though. They've seriously outgrown the Delmar facility. Heck, in the dead of winter, they had 50 people easily in that tiny little tasting room.

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/2012 ... +frontpage

Good for them. I'll be paying a visit once it's open.

[89Hen]

http://www.delmarvanow.com/article/2012 ... +frontpage

Good for them. I'll be paying a visit once it's open.

No doubt I will too, but I'm just afraid it will be more like DFH on Rehoboth Ave. Don't get me wrong, that's a fun place and I go several times a summer, but there was a lot of charm sitting in that little tasting room or out on the picnic benches in Delmar.

[BDKJMU]

Was a dumb call by Letarte- should have gone for 2 tires. Jr led something like 70 of the 1st 71 laps. Goes into pit 1st. Come out 16 after the 15 drivers in front of him all went for 2 tires. Clean air was more important than tires. Not saying he would have won- Smoke was awful good the 2nd half of the race, but certainly would have finished a lot better than 10th.

[93henfan]

I don't fault Letarte too badly, because a lot of strategies and gambles paid off handsomely for Jr. last year.

I listen to Jr's team during the two Dover races each year and Letarte is head and shoulders better as a crew chief than either of the Eury's were with Jr. Letarte's always trying to tweak something here and there and usually gets things set up pretty well for the end of the race. And it's difficult with Jr., because he doesn't have the same ability to diagnose a car like his dad could. Man, listening to Sr. for years, that man would tell the crew chief what to tell the crew to do to the car and it worked. That was the big difference between father and son. Jr. is passive, Sr. was the crew chief.

[BDKJMU]

I don't fault Letarte too badly, because a lot of strategies and gambles paid off handsomely for Jr. last year.

I listen to Jr's team during the two Dover races each year and Letarte is head and shoulders better as a crew chief than either of the Eury's were with Jr. Letarte's always trying to tweak something here and there and usually gets things set up pretty well for the end of the race. And it's difficult with Jr., because he doesn't have the same ability to diagnose a car like his dad could. Man, listening to Sr. for years, that man would tell the crew chief what to tell the crew to do to the car and it worked. That was the big difference between father and son. Jr. is passive, Sr. was the crew chief.

Oh, he's probably better than Eury Jr was, but Eury Sr was the best crew chief Jr ever had to fit Jr:

Tony Eury Sr as crew chief, DEI
2000: 2 wins, 16th in points. 1st rookie ever to win the All Star race, 2nd to Matt Kenseth in Rookie of Year.
2001: 3 wins 8th in points
2002: 2 wins 11th in points
2003: 2 wins 3rd in points
2004: 6 wins, 5th in points. Won Daytona 500. Was 3rd heading into the final 2 races. 2004 was also the year he was in the Corvette wreck and couldn’t finish 2 races because of burns. He also lost 25 pts because he cursed on camera.
The above was done with inferior equipment than Jr has now at Hendrick.

Tony Eury Jr as crew chief, DEI:
2005 1 win, 19th in points
2006 1 win, 5th in points
2007 1 win, 16th in points

Tony Eury Jr as crew chief, Hendrick:
2008 0 wins, 12th in points (Chase)
2009 0 wins (11 races)

Lance McGrew as crew chief, Hendrick:
2009 0 wins (24 races), 25th in points
2010 0 wins, 21st in points

Letarte as crew chief, Hendrick:
2011 0 wins, 7th in points (Chase)
2012 ???

[93henfan]

Better equipment is debatable. Keep in mind, Jr. was essentially car #1 in the DEI stable. Now he's car #3 in the Hendrick stable. It also wouldn't surprise me if it ever came out that the DEI cars had a little extra, illegal something-something going on at the superspeedways back in the early 200Xs. Those cars were such much better than everyone else it was unreal.

[BDKJMU]

Another bad call on tires for Jr. Caution with 22 laps, Jr was running 6th I think. Majority of lead lap stayed out, Jr pitted for 4 tires, restarted 14th, finished 15th. If Jr doesn't pit, he certainly finishes top 10. Letarte is a good crew chief, but he has blown it these past 2 weeks.

[93henfan]

he has blown it these past 2 weeks.

Still in great shape point-wise (5th) through four races.

[BDKJMU]

he has blown it these past 2 weeks.

Still in great shape point-wise (5th) through four races.

Those 2 calls the last 2 races have probably cost JR a combined 10-15 spots. He should be sitting in 2nd-3rd.
1 - Greg Biffle 157
2 - Kevin Harvick 148
3 Matt Kenseth 145
4 Martin Truex Jr. 139
5 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 137
5 Denny Hamlin 137
7 Tony Stewart 130
8 Clint Bowyer 126
8 Joey Logano 126
10 Paul Menard 123
11 Jeff Burton 120
12 Ryan Newman 118
13 Brad Keselowski 113
14 Carl Edwards 107
15 Kyle Busch 99
16 Mark Martin 97
17 Juan Pablo Montoya 96
17 Jimmie Johnson 96 (after 25 pt penalty)
19 Regan Smith 94
19 Jamie McMurray 94
21 Bobby Labonte 92
22 Aric Almirola 88
23 Jeff Gordon 85
24 Marcos Ambrose 82
25 Dave Blaney 76
26 A J Allmendinger 72
27 Kurt Busch 70
28 David Gilliland 66
28 David Ragan 66
30 David Reutimann 62
31 Casey Mears 60
32 Kasey Kahne 57
33 Landon Cassill 54
34 Brendan Gaughan 49
35 Travis Kvapil 47
36 David Stremme 44
37 Brian Vickers 40
38 Michael McDowell 34
39 J.J. Yeley 33
40 Terry Labonte 27
41 Ken Schrader 25
41 Tony Raines 25
43 Josh Wise 11 146
44 Robby Gordon 6
45 Scott Riggs 5
46 Timmy Hill 2
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[93henfan]

Greg Biffle. Was there ever a more boring NASCAR driver in history, beside maybe Terry Labonte?

[BDKJMU]

Labonte vs Earnhardt 99' Bristol: One of the great NASCAR finishes:
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[93henfan]

Labonte vs Earnhardt 99' Bristol: One of the great NASCAR finishes:
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Good, clean racing right there!

[89Hen]

Labonte vs Earnhardt 99' Bristol: One of the great NASCAR finishes:
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Good, clean racing right there!

Indeed. 3 should have had that win vacated and been suspended.

[BDKJMU]

Well, Smoke wins the rain shortened Auto Club 400 at Fontana, CA.

Results top 10:
1. Stewart
2. Kyle Bush
3. Junior (he really lucked into this one). Think he was running 6th when the caution for rain came out & 3 drivers ahead of him pitted. Bout time he had a pit call go his way.
4. Kevin Harvik
5. Carl Edwards
6. Greg Biffle
7. Ryan Newman
8. Martin Truex Jr.
9. Kurt Busch
10. Jimmie Johnson

[grizzaholic]

JJ sure lucked out last weekend.

[BDKJMU]

Results so far:
1.Daytona 1.Kenseth 2.Earnhardt 3.Biffle 4.Hamlin 5.Burton 6.Menard 7.Harvick 8.Edwards 9.Logano 10.Martin

2.Phoenix 1.Hamlin 2.Harvick 3.Biffle 4.Johnson 5.Keselowski 6.Kyle Busch 7.Truex 8.Gordan 9.Martin 10.Logano

3.Vegas 1.Stewart 2.Johnson 3.Biffle 4.Newman 5.Edwards 6.Bowyer 7.Menard 8.McMurray 9.Bayne 10.Earnhardt

4.Bristol 1.Keselowski 2.Kenseth 3.Truex 4.Boywer 5.Vickers 6.Burton 7.McMurray 8.Montoya 9.Johnson 10.Menard

5.Fontana 1.Stewart 2.Kyle Busch 3.Earnhardt 4.Harvick 5.Edwards 6.Biffle 7.Newman 8.Truex 9.Kurt Busch 10.Johnson

6.Martinsville 1.Newuman 2.Allmendinger 3.Earnhardt 4.Kennesth 5.Truex 6.Hamlin 7.Stewart 8.Almirola 9.Keselowski 10.Bowyer

7. Texas 1.Biffle 2.Johnson 3.Martin 4.Gordon 5.Kenseth 6.Truex 7.Kahne 8.Edwards 9.Harvick 10.Earnhardt

8.Kansas 1.Hamlin 2.Truex 3.Johnson 4.Kenseth 5.Biffle 6.Harvick 7.Earnhardt 8.Kahne 9.Edwards 10.Kyle Bush

9.Richmond 1.Kyle Busch 2.Earnhardt 3.Stewart 4.Hamlin 5.Kahne 6.Johnson 7.Bowyer 8.Martin 9.Keselowski 10.Edwards

10.Talladega 1.Keselowski 2.Kyle Busch 3.Kenseth 4.Kahne 5.Biffle 6.Bowyer 7.Ragan 8.Bayne 9.Earnhardt 10.Burton

[BDKJMU]

JJ sure lucked out last weekend.

Yep. Speculation was picked up debris and cut an oil line right before that final caution.

[BDKJMU]

Top 25 (of 66) point standings after 10 races:
1. Greg Biffle 378
2. Matt Kennseth 371
3. Dale Earnhardt 369
4. Denny Hamlin 351
5. Kevin Harvick 333
6. Martin Truex 332
7. Tony Stewart 328
8. Jimmie Johnson 324
9. Kyle Busch 308
10. Clint Bowyer 302
11. Carl Edwards 300
12. Brad Keselowski 299
13. Ryan Newman 286
14. Paul Menard 277
15. Joey Logano 259
16. Jamie McMurray 253
17. Juan Pablo Montoya 252
18. Jeff Burton 249
19. Kasey Kahne 246
20. AJ Almengdinger 242
21. Maros Ambrose 239
22. Aric Almirola 237
23. Jeff Gordon 232
24. Mark Martin 218
25. Kurt Busch 215
http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2012/da ... dings.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BDKJMU]

Not looking good for the bottom half of Hendrick there. Still early, but Gordon and Kahne better get it together if they want to make the chase

[93henfan]

Not looking good for the bottom half of Hendrick there. Still early, but Gordon and Kahne better get it together if they want to make the chase

Jr. didn't help Gordon too much last week. Whoopsy daisy!

[89Hen]

Not looking good for the bottom half of Hendrick there. Still early, but Gordon and Kahne better get it together if they want to make the chase

Jr. didn't help Gordon too much last week. Whoopsy daisy!

Gordon is just having a run of bad luck. Top 5 car several races already. Engine failure, cut tire, pit road penalty right before a rain shortened end... He has easily been one of the 10 best cars so far.

[bluehenbillk]

Gordon in 25th? Yikes, I thought it may have been that bad. He needs to pick it up quickly.

[BDKJMU]

F***ing Reutimann. Don't putz your broke down, 30th something place car around the track until you get black flagged, then stop right in the middle of the damn racetrack. A guy who is completely out of the race for no good reason is allowed to change the entire outcome of the race.

Johnson and Gordon both got screwed there, and Hendrick got denied his 200th Sprint cup owner win. Would have been a Hendrick 1-2-3. At least Jr still got 3rd.

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[BDKJMU]

Results so far:
1.Daytona 1.Kenseth 2.Earnhardt 3.Biffle 4.Hamlin 5.Burton 6.Menard 7.Harvick 8.Edwards 9.Logano 10.Martin

2.Phoenix 1.Hamlin 2.Harvick 3.Biffle 4.Johnson 5.Keselowski 6.Kyle Busch 7.Truex 8.Gordan 9.Martin 10.Logano

3.Vegas 1.Stewart 2.Johnson 3.Biffle 4.Newman 5.Edwards 6.Bowyer 7.Menard 8.McMurray 9.Bayne 10.Earnhardt

4.Bristol 1.Keselowski 2.Kenseth 3.Truex 4.Boywer 5.Vickers 6.Burton 7.McMurray 8.Montoya 9.Johnson 10.Menard

5.Fontana 1.Stewart 2.Kyle Busch 3.Earnhardt 4.Harvick 5.Edwards 6.Biffle 7.Newman 8.Truex 9.Kurt Busch 10.Johnson

6.Martinsville 1.Newuman 2.Allmendinger 3.Earnhardt 4.Kennesth 5.Truex 6.Hamlin 7.Stewart 8.Almirola 9.Keselowski 10.Bowyer

7. Texas 1.Biffle 2.Johnson 3.Martin 4.Gordon 5.Kenseth 6.Truex 7.Kahne 8.Edwards 9.Harvick 10.Earnhardt

8.Kansas 1.Hamlin 2.Truex 3.Johnson 4.Kenseth 5.Biffle 6.Harvick 7.Earnhardt 8.Kahne 9.Edwards 10.Kyle Bush

9.Richmond 1.Kyle Busch 2.Earnhardt 3.Stewart 4.Hamlin 5.Kahne 6.Johnson 7.Bowyer 8.Martin 9.Keselowski 10.Edwards

10.Talladega 1.Keselowski 2.Kyle Busch 3.Kenseth 4.Kahne 5.Biffle 6.Bowyer 7.Ragan 8.Bayne 9.Earnhardt 10.Burton

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