Majority of Americans Support Legalization of Pot

[Ibanez]

Look at all those states that still have it illegal. Not even decriminalized, those states are far off from out right legalization.

[Ibanez]

Maryland just legalized medical weed. It seems that decriminalization/legalizing for medicinal purposes are the step stones to total legalization. Maryland might have it buy 2016, maybe 2017.

[89Hen]

Washington has almost 7 million people and Colorado has 5 million. Now who's wasting bandwidth?

You.

[89Hen]

From what I've read over the last few months, Alaska will most likely be the next to legalize it followed by either Vermont or Oregon. You might not think it's a good sample, and that's your opinion, but only one of the states you've listed has a real shot in the coming year or two.

You didn't ask who I thought would be next. You asked who I thought would be a good sample and I provided a list. Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Vermont... you really don't see those as demographically and socially similar?

[Grizalltheway]

Washington has almost 7 million people and Colorado has 5 million. Now who's wasting bandwidth?

You.

Clever. Too bad that's all you've got at this point.

[Chizzang]

here is no good reason Marijana should NOT be legal for adults
There is no good reason guns should NOT be legal for adults
It's about RIGHTS

We aren't going to agree on this one Cleets. Guns can be used for protection, both from other pepole and from the government. Pot is recreational unless you have a legit medical need. They are similiar, yet entirely different. I really can't believe you are digging your feet in on this one.

Yet you've done a complete 180..?

[89Hen]

We aren't going to agree on this one Cleets. Guns can be used for protection, both from other pepole and from the government. Pot is recreational unless you have a legit medical need. They are similiar, yet entirely different. I really can't believe you are digging your feet in on this one.

Yet you've done a complete 180..?

On what?

[Ibanez]

From what I've read over the last few months, Alaska will most likely be the next to legalize it followed by either Vermont or Oregon. You might not think it's a good sample, and that's your opinion, but only one of the states you've listed has a real shot in the coming year or two.

You didn't ask who I thought would be next. You asked who I thought would be a good sample and I provided a list. Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Vermont... you really don't see those as demographically and socially similar?

Right, because you were bitching about samples. Your list of samples, would theoretically, be states that have a shot of being the next to legalize weed and therefore we can study the effects. Where is the value in saying Connecticut is a good sample even when they are probably 5-10 years away from legalizing weed. So when you say, South Carolina is a good sample, that's actually a bad sample due to the fact that they aren't anywhere close to decriminalizing or legalizing medical marijuana.

Maryland is probably a good sample, as is Ohio. Oregon is a great sample, IMO.

[kalm]

You didn't ask who I thought would be next. You asked who I thought would be a good sample and I provided a list. Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Vermont... you really don't see those as demographically and socially similar?

Right, because you were bitching about samples. Your list of samples, would theoretically, be states that have a shot of being the next to legalize weed and therefore we can study the effects. Where is the value in saying Connecticut is a good sample even when they are probably 5-10 years away from legalizing weed. So when you say, South Carolina is a good sample, that's actually a bad sample due to the fact that they aren't anywhere close to decriminalizing or legalizing medical marijuana.

Maryland is probably a good sample, as is Ohio. Oregon is a great sample, IMO.

So are Washington and Colorado.

[Ibanez]

Right, because you were bitching about samples. Your list of samples, would theoretically, be states that have a shot of being the next to legalize weed and therefore we can study the effects. Where is the value in saying Connecticut is a good sample even when they are probably 5-10 years away from legalizing weed. So when you say, South Carolina is a good sample, that's actually a bad sample due to the fact that they aren't anywhere close to decriminalizing or legalizing medical marijuana.

Maryland is probably a good sample, as is Ohio. Oregon is a great sample, IMO.

So are Washington and Colorado.

89 needs to toke up.

Someone post the stats for these 2 states.

Hen, you may have posted this already, but why don't you like Washington and Colorado as examples?

[Ibanez]

Washington
White: 77.3% (Non-Hispanic Whites 72.5%, White Hispanics 4.8%)
Black or African American: 3.6%
Native Americans: 1.5%
Asian: 7.2% (1.4% Chinese, 1.4% Filipino, 1.0% Vietnamese, 0.9% Korean, 0.9% Indian, 0.5% Japanese, 0.3% Cambodian, 0.1% Laotian, 0.1% Thai)
Pacific Islander: 0.6% (0.2% Samoan, 0.1% Guamanian, 0.1% Hawaiian)
Two or more races: 4.7%
Some other race 5.1%

13th most populous state, median income is $58k

18th largest in total area: 71,299.64 sq. mi.

[Ibanez]

Colorado

8th Largest State with 104,093.57 sq. mi. (.36% of it is water)

22 in population ( 5.268 Million)
Median income $57k

81.3% White American (70.0% Non-Hispanic White, 11.3% White Hispanic)
4.0% Black or African American
1.1% American Indian and Alaska Native
2.8% Asian American
0.1% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
7.2% Some Other Race
3.4% Multiracial American


Just for fun

Maryland:

42 largest state, 19th largest population (5.9M)

Median income $69k

60.8% White American (53.9% non-Hispanic White, 6.9% White Hispanic)
30.0% Black or African American
0.5% American Indian and Alaska Native
6.0% Asian American
0.1% Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
2.5% Multiracial American


South Carolina
40 largest state , 24th largest population (4.7 M. 2.1% increase since 2010)

Median income $39K

66.2% White (64.1% non-Hispanic white)
27.9% Black or African American
0.4% American Indian and Alaska Native
1.3% Asian
0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander
1.7% from two or more races.
5.1% of the total population was of Hispanic or Latino origin (they may be of any race)

[89Hen]

You didn't ask who I thought would be next. You asked who I thought would be a good sample and I provided a list. Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Vermont... you really don't see those as demographically and socially similar?

Right, because you were bitching about samples. Your list of samples, would theoretically, be states that have a shot of being the next to legalize weed and therefore we can study the effects. Where is the value in saying Connecticut is a good sample even when they are probably 5-10 years away from legalizing weed. So when you say, South Carolina is a good sample, that's actually a bad sample due to the fact that they aren't anywhere close to decriminalizing or legalizing medical marijuana.

Maryland is probably a good sample, as is Ohio. Oregon is a great sample, IMO.

CT would be a good sample. SC would be a good sample. All the states I listed would be good samples. VT would not be a good sample IMO. Again, you asked what would be good samples, NOT who would be first or even soon.

[Ibanez]

Right, because you were bitching about samples. Your list of samples, would theoretically, be states that have a shot of being the next to legalize weed and therefore we can study the effects. Where is the value in saying Connecticut is a good sample even when they are probably 5-10 years away from legalizing weed. So when you say, South Carolina is a good sample, that's actually a bad sample due to the fact that they aren't anywhere close to decriminalizing or legalizing medical marijuana.

Maryland is probably a good sample, as is Ohio. Oregon is a great sample, IMO.

CT would be a good sample. SC would be a good sample. All the states I listed would be good samples. VT would not be a good sample IMO. Again, you asked what would be good samples, NOT who would be first or even soon.

I know what I asked. I'll ask again though, Why would one of those states me a good example?

I like the silly smiley face.

[89Hen]

Hen, you may have posted this already, but why don't you like Washington and Colorado as examples?

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

[89Hen]

Hen, you may have posted this already, but why don't you like Washington and Colorado as examples?

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

BTW, they would be good samples for Oregon, Montana, ND, SD, WY, UT, etc...

[Ibanez]

Hen, you may have posted this already, but why don't you like Washington and Colorado as examples?

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

Thanks. That's a good answer. They are largely white. 80% vanilla face in some cases.

How many posts did it take for us to get an answer out you? Way too much bandwidth was wasted.

[Grizalltheway]

Hen, you may have posted this already, but why don't you like Washington and Colorado as examples?

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

So are you trying to say legalizing weed over there would keep too many knee grows out of jail?

[Ibanez]

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

So are you trying to say legalizing weed over there would keep too many knee grows out of jail?

It would be good for race relations.

Seriously, it's a different world in the South.

[89Hen]

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

Thanks. That's a good answer. They are largely white. 80% vanilla face in some cases.

How many posts did it take for us to get an answer out you? Way too much bandwidth was wasted.

For the record, I answered the first time you asked.

[89Hen]

They are not similar to states around here. Very white, not densely populated, different speed, different culture.

So are you trying to say legalizing weed over there would keep too many knee grows out of jail?

There are ethnic differences. I believe the original article in this thread noted that blacks and hispanics were more in favor of legalizing by a pretty notable margin. That tells me that different groups would have different impacts and different challenges.

It would be like thinking a banking plan in Iceland would work here.

[Grizalltheway]

So are you trying to say legalizing weed over there would keep too many knee grows out of jail?

There are ethnic differences. I believe the original article in this thread noted that blacks and hispanics were more in favor of legalizing by a pretty notable margin. That tells me that different groups would have different impacts and different challenges.

It would be like thinking a banking plan in Iceland would work here.

More like a Canadian one.

[kalm]

So are you trying to say legalizing weed over there would keep too many knee grows out of jail?

There are ethnic differences. I believe the original article in this thread noted that blacks and hispanics were more in favor of legalizing by a pretty notable margin. That tells me that different groups would have different impacts and different challenges.

It would be like thinking a banking plan in Iceland would work here.

Or austerity in Greece.

[Chizzang]

Yet you've done a complete 180..?

On what?

everything related to your original argument from last year about legalization...

[CID1990]

And Klam accused me of being a stubborn old curmudgeon