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CitadelGrad wrote:You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
and just like in football, if a team can't beat Alabama, etc. they aren't worth cheering for, right? :roll:
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JayJ79 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
and just like in football, if a team can't beat Alabama, etc. they aren't worth cheering for, right? :roll:
What's funny is he is a Citadel fan talking shit about "big boys".

Maybe I should pick a "big boy" school to cheer for as well and then talk shit...
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CitadelGrad wrote:
clenz wrote: shitgrad was quick to dismiss UNI in the UNI wrestling thread but UNI wrestling is going in the right direction, and quickly. We have 2 freshman and I think 2 soph at NCAAs right now. If the middle weights get caught up UNI is in real good shape.
You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
This is a pretty lame statement. My son wrestles for one of the smaller D1 programs. We still support the team.
FWIW he could have gone to Penn St and wrestled.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
This is a pretty lame statement. My son wrestles for one of the smaller D1 programs. We still support the team.
FWIW he could have gone to Penn St and wrestled.
No he couldn't...The #1 wrestler in 133, from UNI, couldn't wresle there...

there are olympic gold medalists that wouldn't wrestling for Penn State. The fucking Gable brothers? They couldn't wrestle for them. Well, maybe practice wrestlers.
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clenz wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
This is a pretty lame statement. My son wrestles for one of the smaller D1 programs. We still support the team.
FWIW he could have gone to Penn St and wrestled.
No he couldn't...The #1 wrestler in 133, from UNI, couldn't wresle there...

there are olympic gold medalists that wouldn't wrestling for Penn State. The fucking Gable brothers? They couldn't wrestle for them. Well, maybe practice wrestlers.
I didn't say he would start, but yes, he would wrestle. Lots of open tourneys that he could enter. Two of his friends have championships rings from the last few years.

The back-ups get to wear Penn St singlets at the tourneys and they get to travel to meets.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
clenz wrote: shitgrad was quick to dismiss UNI in the UNI wrestling thread but UNI wrestling is going in the right direction, and quickly. We have 2 freshman and I think 2 soph at NCAAs right now. If the middle weights get caught up UNI is in real good shape.
You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
Good thing that UNI is on it's way to rejoining the "big boys" of wrestling.
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clenz wrote:
JayJ79 wrote: and just like in football, if a team can't beat Alabama, etc. they aren't worth cheering for, right? :roll:
What's funny is he is a Citadel fan talking shit about "big boys".

Maybe I should pick a "big boy" school to cheer for as well and then talk shit...
I went to grad school at Penn State. I'm not a bandwagon rider.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
You're still not going to beat Penn State or the other big boys.
This is a pretty lame statement. My son wrestles for one of the smaller D1 programs. We still support the team.
FWIW he could have gone to Penn St and wrestled.
I'm sure he could have. Penn State needs practice fodder too.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
This is a pretty lame statement. My son wrestles for one of the smaller D1 programs. We still support the team.
FWIW he could have gone to Penn St and wrestled.
I'm sure he could have. Penn State needs practice fodder too.
You're right. That's exactly what he would have been. But he is good enough to be in their room.

Pretty uncool of you to take a shot at my son like that though.
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BlueHen86 wrote:Gotta give a shout out to my sons F&M teammate Rick Durso.

Durso is the only Franklin & Marshall wrestler to make the tourney this year. Rick is a junior and this is his third trip to the championship tourney. Last year he came up just short of AA, this year he is the 12 seed at 141. Good luck Rick!
Durso wins both matches today to advance to quarter finals for second straight year. Needs one more win to medal. Won second match 3-2 over #5 seed Chris Mecate of ODU, riding time turned out to be the decisive point.
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At 141 lbs #11 seed Joey Lazor of UNI beats #6 seed Chris Dardanes of Minn 10-8. Lazor advances to quarter finals against #3 Zain Retherford of Penn St.
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But...uni cant every hang with any big boy schools...never mind in duals this year uni 5 or 6 top10 teams.

No one has claimed UNI would beat Iowa or Penitentiary Statebut there is a reason uni financed #4 in dual rankings.

UNI was a top 10 finisher at the ncaas not too long ago then a coach was brought in that nearly decimated the program. Just 3 years into Schwabs tenure and UNI is looking a second straight top 15 finish, and a good shot at top 10 finish square in the face.

Shitgrad just has some sort of complex related to anything that might involve PSU.

It's also pretty easy to dominate when you spend more on wrestling than most schools do on athletics.

Why don't you ever talk about shitadel wrestling? Is that not worth your time since they aren't a big boy? Matter of fact Abby do you care about any citadel sports? They aren't big time in anything. They aren't even big time in relation to their own conference
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CitadelGrad wrote:The Citadel won three of its five first round matches. Ugi, who finished 4th last year but is unranked now, drew the #3 seed. The NCAA screwed him by causing him to miss half of the season with a bogus eligibility ruling. If he had been allowed to wrestle all of this season, he would have gone into the tournament with a high seed and would have likely won his first round match.
I felt bad for Ugi until he STB in consy's, losing 13-2 to unseeded Nick Lester of Oklahoma. Maybe the seeding committee got this one right after all.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
I'm sure he could have. Penn State needs practice fodder too.
You're right. That's exactly what he would have been. But he is good enough to be in their room.

Pretty uncool of you to take a shot at my son like that though.
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clenz wrote:But...uni cant every hang with any big boy schools...never mind in duals this year uni 5 or 6 top10 teams.

No one has claimed UNI would beat Iowa or Penitentiary Statebut there is a reason uni financed #4 in dual rankings.

UNI was a top 10 finisher at the ncaas not too long ago then a coach was brought in that nearly decimated the program. Just 3 years into Schwabs tenure and UNI is looking a second straight top 15 finish, and a good shot at top 10 finish square in the face.

Shitgrad just has some sort of complex related to anything that might involve PSU.

It's also pretty easy to dominate when you spend more on wrestling than most schools do on athletics.

Why don't you ever talk about shitadel wrestling? Is that not worth your time since they aren't a big boy? Matter of fact Abby do you care about any citadel sports? They aren't big time in anything. They aren't even big time in relation to their own conference
We have a pretty good baseball program and produced two AA's at the NCAA wrestling tournament last year.
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BlueHen86 wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:The Citadel won three of its five first round matches. Ugi, who finished 4th last year but is unranked now, drew the #3 seed. The NCAA screwed him by causing him to miss half of the season with a bogus eligibility ruling. If he had been allowed to wrestle all of this season, he would have gone into the tournament with a high seed and would have likely won his first round match.
I felt bad for Ugi until he STB in consy's, losing 13-2 to unseeded Nick Lester of Oklahoma. Maybe the seeding committee got this one right after all.
Then how do you explain his #4 finish last year? Ugi wasn't even able to wrestle competitively this season until the season was more than half finished, thanks to the NCAA.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
You're right. That's exactly what he would have been. But he is good enough to be in their room.

Pretty uncool of you to take a shot at my son like that though.
You opened the door. Can't blame me for walking through it.
Opened the door how? We're discussing wrestling, do you always have to be an asshole? Maybe you should go find a Sandusky victim support group to help you with your issues.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
I felt bad for Ugi until he STB in consy's, losing 13-2 to unseeded Nick Lester of Oklahoma. Maybe the seeding committee got this one right after all.
Then how do you explain his #4 finish last year? Ugi wasn't even able to wrestle competitively this season until the season was more than half finished, thanks to the NCAA.
More than half finished? He was 22-5 coming in, that's 27 matches. The #1 seed and the #2 wrestled 28 each. You're making excuses. He wasn't as good this year, probably didn't work hard enough.
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UNI advances 2 to the semi's

125 Dylan Peters
133 Joe Colon

141 Lazor fell 5-2 to a mighty Penn State wrestler (I think the #2 or 4 guy)...so not bad who legitimately missed over half the season from a tiny ass school that doesn't deserve any recognition. He'll wrestle back for third.
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clenz wrote:UNI advances 2 to the semi's

125 Dylan Peters
133 Joe Colon

141 Lazor fell 5-2 to a mighty Penn State wrestler (I think the #2 or 4 guy)...so not bad who legitimately missed over half the season from a tiny ass school that doesn't deserve any recognition. He'll wrestle back for third.
He lost to Zain Retherford, Retherford is #3 seed and was undefeated until B1G final where he lost to #2 Seed Logan Stieber. Retherford handed Stieber his only loss earlier this year. Stieber-Retherford should be the final, but they are on same side of bracket. #1 seed is Mitchell Port of Edinboro who went undefeated - until a few minutes ago where he lost to #9 seed.

I like Lazor's chances in consy's, needs one more win to get All-American.
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CitadelGrad wrote:
BlueHen86 wrote:
You're right. That's exactly what he would have been. But he is good enough to be in their room.

Pretty uncool of you to take a shot at my son like that though.
You opened the door. Can't blame me for walking through it.
He didn't open the door for you to insult his kid. That's just a dick move that should be above a person that went to the Citadel.
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Ibanez wrote:
CitadelGrad wrote:
You opened the door. Can't blame me for walking through it.
He didn't open the door for you to insult his kid. That's just a dick move that should be above a person that went to the Citadel.
He claims Penn State...not Citadel.

The Citadel isn't big time so they aren't worth claiming.


BTW, how many All American's does it take to be considered a *big boy* in wrestling? That why I'll know when I can start caring about UNI...
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clenz wrote:
Ibanez wrote: He didn't open the door for you to insult his kid. That's just a dick move that should be above a person that went to the Citadel.
He claims Penn State...not Citadel.

The Citadel isn't big time so they aren't worth claiming.


BTW, how many All American's does it take to be considered a *big boy* in wrestling? That why I'll know when I can start caring about UNI...
I wonder if either school would want to claim him?

Anyway, back to wrestling...

At the moment UNI is up to 8th place in team scoring. Pretty impressive. They trail 4 B1G schools, OK St, Cornell and Edinboro.
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Last update I had from Twitter had us in 4th.

Did we fall back?
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Dylan Peters becomes UNIs first freshman All American since Mark Schwab did it in 1986.

Mark is now an assistant at UNI to his brother, Doug.
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