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CID1990 wrote:Im still trying to figure why everybody is hyperventilating about this now

they were the Redskins 5, 10, 15 years ago too

Harry Reid sounded like he was about to have a conniption fit on the floor of the senate

why now all of a sudden?
I know regular people in my grandparents generation who used words like "colored", "darkies" and "nigger" and it wasn't considered racist. Why did that stop? They didn't mean it a bad way. :coffee:
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CID1990 wrote:Hey Jon

How long before you gays go after the Packers?
:lmao:


Maybe Green Bay and the Citadel could swap mascots?
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LeadBolt wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote:They weren't stripped, they were scalped of the trademarks.

Next up: Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks, etc.....
According to the NCAA "Indians" is a slur.
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houndawg wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Hey Jon

How long before you gays go after the Packers?
:lmao:


Maybe Green Bay and the Citadel could swap mascots?
sometimes it is better to remain silent and be thought unfunny

rather than attempt a joke and remove all doubt
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote:
Well DC is the land of flip flopping...
Changing your position (even if it's the right thing to do) is for unprincipled, wishy washy, liberal pussies! :ohno:
Ha.. :rofl: !!!

I've changed my mind on this issue three times already
1) Originally I was like: Let 'em keep the name
2) Then I was like: Well gosh if it matters that much - okay - change the name
3) And now I'm like: Who F#!&^%* cares


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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
Changing your position (even if it's the right thing to do) is for unprincipled, wishy washy, liberal pussies! :ohno:
Ha.. :rofl: !!!

I've changed my mind on this issue three times already
1) Originally I was like: Let 'em keep the name
2) Then I was like: Well gosh if it matters that much - okay - change the name
3) And now I'm like: Who F#!&^%* cares


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So, just for the record, you are agreeing with him. 8-)
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In other news, these are still acceptable:

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Mabye they should do what Colgate did and just alter the name. After all, Darkie became Darlie in the 1990s. But in Chinese, still means, " Black People Toothpaste."

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Honest question...

Is it the name or the logo that people take the most offense too?
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clenz wrote:Honest question...

Is it the name or the logo that people take the most offense too?
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89Hen wrote:
clenz wrote:Honest question...

Is it the name or the logo that people take the most offense too?
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So why was the trademark of their logos stripped?
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clenz wrote:
89Hen wrote: Name
So why was the trademark of their logos stripped?
It wasn't, the logo trademark remains.
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GannonFan wrote:
clenz wrote: So why was the trademark of their logos stripped?
It wasn't, the logo trademark remains.
Gotcha.

I was confused as to why they'd strip the trademark off of something that a Native America created.

Keep the logo.

Create a roundtable with Native American leaders to see if there is a way to keep the Redskins name - setting up a foundation for scholarships or something.

Seems relatively simple (though I realize it isn't *that simple) to me.
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89Hen wrote:
CID1990 wrote:Im still trying to figure why everybody is hyperventilating about this now

they were the Redskins 5, 10, 15 years ago too

Harry Reid sounded like he was about to have a conniption fit on the floor of the senate

why now all of a sudden?
I know regular people in my grandparents generation who used words like "colored", "darkies" and "n*****" and it wasn't considered racist. Why did that stop? They didn't mean it a bad way. :coffee:
The point is that although there are people who are legitimately offended by the name (and for that reason I have no problem with them changing it), they make up a tiny, tiny percentage of the people who are making noise about it. If you aren't a Native American then it is fine to protest the name as offensive, but all the dramatics are unnecessary and quite frankly, make people look like assholes. I am referring specifically to people like Harry Reid and that knucklhead on MSNBC who suddenly cannot say the word and must warn viewers that they might be triggered by its use. Give me an effing break. one year ago these people didn't give two sh!ts about the name.
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GannonFan wrote:
clenz wrote: So why was the trademark of their logos stripped?
It wasn't, the logo trademark remains.
Crap. I was hoping to get a truck sticker with Calvin pissing on a Redskin logo

guess not
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The song that a lot of ice cream trucks use has some pretty racially insensitive lyrics. Ban it. Context doesn't matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... st-lyrics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I mean, it doesn't matter that mascots are things that are respected and/or revered, either. Context doesn't matter.
And on that note, let's condemn rap lyrics that use the n-word. Context doesn't matter.
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Pwns wrote: I mean, it doesn't matter that mascots are things that are respected and/or revered, either
Do you really think that the Redskins fans and organization "respects" and "reveres" the Native American community? :roll:

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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Pwns wrote: I mean, it doesn't matter that mascots are things that are respected and/or revered, either
Do you really think that the Redskins fans and organization "respects" and "reveres" the Native American community? :roll:

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I know that other people are sensitive about this kind of thing but quite frankly, I think as a whole we have become so hypersensitive to things like this to the point of absurdity. But I'm not a native American so I won't presume to think for them. If they are special flowers who wilt at being insulted then I'm all for getting rid of the name.

Personally, as 100% Scot descended from the scions to two different Scottish diasporas, and of a clan that is known to have been descended from an intermingling of Picts and Norse raiders- I would LOVE to have my ancestors depicted as bloodthristy savages who would rip your throat out through the back of your head.

But that's just me
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CID1990 wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Do you really think that the Redskins fans and organization "respects" and "reveres" the Native American community? :roll:

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I know that other people are sensitive about this kind of thing but quite frankly, I think as a whole we have become so hypersensitive to things like this to the point of absurdity. But I'm not a native American so I won't presume to think for them. If they are special flowers who wilt at being insulted then I'm all for getting rid of the name.

Personally, as 100% Scot descended from the scions to two different Scottish diasporas, and of a clan that is known to have been descended from an intermingling of Picts and Norse raiders- I would LOVE to have my ancestors depicted as bloodthristy savages who would rip your throat out through the back of your head.

But that's just me
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CID1990 wrote:
I know that other people are sensitive about this kind of thing but quite frankly, I think as a whole we have become so hypersensitive to things like this to the point of absurdity. But I'm not a native American so I won't presume to think for them. If they are special flowers who wilt at being insulted then I'm all for getting rid of the name.

Personally, as 100% Scot descended from the scions to two different Scottish diasporas, and of a clan that is known to have been descended from an intermingling of Picts and Norse raiders- I would LOVE to have my ancestors depicted as bloodthristy savages who would rip your throat out through the back of your head.

But that's just me
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Dunno. Are you a Gunn or a member of one of its septs?
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CID1990 wrote:
Ibanez wrote:
:suspicious: Are we related?
Dunno. Are you a Gunn or a member of one of its septs?
Not that i'm aware of (and I've done the genealogy for my family.) I hail from a border reiver clan.
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CID1990 wrote:I am referring specifically to people like Harry Reid and that knucklhead on MSNBC who suddenly cannot say the word and must warn viewers that they might be triggered by its use. Give me an effing break. one year ago these people didn't give two sh!ts about the name.
You know that's done for effect.
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Pwns wrote:The song that a lot of ice cream trucks use has some pretty racially insensitive lyrics. Ban it. Context doesn't matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... st-lyrics/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I mean, it doesn't matter that mascots are things that are respected and/or revered, either. Context doesn't matter.
And on that note, let's condemn rap lyrics that use the n-word. Context doesn't matter.
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89Hen wrote:
CID1990 wrote:I am referring specifically to people like Harry Reid and that knucklhead on MSNBC who suddenly cannot say the word and must warn viewers that they might be triggered by its use. Give me an effing break. one year ago these people didn't give two sh!ts about the name.
You know that's done for effect.
Of course it is- the problem is that way too many people give these people a pass rather than ridiculing them for being asshats.
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CID1990 wrote:
89Hen wrote: You know that's done for effect.
Of course it is- the problem is that way too many people give these people a pass rather than ridiculing them for being asshats.
See MSNBC.
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