Christie 2016 momentum surging

[CAA Flagship]

Christie ain't the guy IMO. He's viewed as a bully, a RINO, and a guy who either gets his way or takes his ball and goes home. I like that he's decisive, but I question his methods.

His "methods" is calling people out to explain their absurdity. He is often right but people don't want to give up their piece of the pie. He will call them out on it and eventually they give in because they know he is right.

He uses public opinion to get things done more so than backroom handshake deals with other politicians. He took on the powerful NJ Teacher's Union to get them to take cuts at a time when we were in the middle of a deep recession. He pulled out of a new tunnel project to NY that was a bad financial deal for NJ. He called for a mandatory 21-day quarantine for healthcare workers returning from west Africa. He listened to the people of NJ who wanted same-sex marriage and eventually stopped blocking the legalization. You can't get elected as a Republican in NJ unless you have the support of people who typically vote Democrat. There is something to be said about that.

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Christie ain't the guy IMO. He's viewed as a bully, a RINO, and a guy who either gets his way or takes his ball and goes home. I like that he's decisive, but I question his methods.

His "methods" is calling people out to explain their absurdity. He is often right but people don't want to give up their piece of the pie. He will call them out on it and eventually they give in because they know he is right.

He uses public opinion to get things done more so than backroom handshake deals with other politicians. He took on the powerful NJ Teacher's Union to get them to take cuts at a time when we were in the middle of a deep recession. He pulled out of a new tunnel project to NY that was a bad financial deal for NJ. He called for a mandatory 21-day quarantine for healthcare workers returning from west Africa. He listened to the people of NJ who wanted same-sex marriage and eventually stopped blocking the legalization. You can't get elected as a Republican in NJ unless you have the support of people who typically vote Democrat. There is something to be said about that.

His politics are probably much closer to being a centrist and appealing to both sides which work in his favor. He'll alienate the Tea partiers (which isn't a bad thing) and the far left (ditto) but most of us don't reside in the tails of the distribution anyway. Christie is eloquent and emphatic about his positions which I like, but he's rough around the edges when it comes to his delivery in many cases. I'd take him in a second over the current prez simply based on him having experience and actually getting things done while taking sometimes unpopular positions. I'd be curious to see what he will espouse on foreign policy.

[AZGrizFan]

His "methods" is calling people out to explain their absurdity. He is often right but people don't want to give up their piece of the pie. He will call them out on it and eventually they give in because they know he is right.

He uses public opinion to get things done more so than backroom handshake deals with other politicians. He took on the powerful NJ Teacher's Union to get them to take cuts at a time when we were in the middle of a deep recession. He pulled out of a new tunnel project to NY that was a bad financial deal for NJ. He called for a mandatory 21-day quarantine for healthcare workers returning from west Africa. He listened to the people of NJ who wanted same-sex marriage and eventually stopped blocking the legalization. You can't get elected as a Republican in NJ unless you have the support of people who typically vote Democrat. There is something to be said about that.

His politics are probably much closer to being a centrist and appealing to both sides which work in his favor. He'll alienate the Tea partiers (which isn't a bad thing) and the far left (ditto) but most of us don't reside in the tails of the distribution anyway. Christie is eloquent and emphatic about his positions which I like, but he's rough around the edges when it comes to his delivery in many cases. I'd take him in a second over the current prez simply based on him having experience and actually getting things done while taking sometimes unpopular positions. I'd be curious to see what he will espouse on foreign policy.

Christie is too centrist to ever make it through the primaries.

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His politics are probably much closer to being a centrist and appealing to both sides which work in his favor. He'll alienate the Tea partiers (which isn't a bad thing) and the far left (ditto) but most of us don't reside in the tails of the distribution anyway. Christie is eloquent and emphatic about his positions which I like, but he's rough around the edges when it comes to his delivery in many cases. I'd take him in a second over the current prez simply based on him having experience and actually getting things done while taking sometimes unpopular positions. I'd be curious to see what he will espouse on foreign policy.

Christie is too centrist to ever make it through the primaries.

That's kind of my point on him not being the guy.

[GannonFan]

Makes you wonder what a ticket of Jeb Bush/Susana Martinez would look like. That would be an interesting race btween them and Hillary. Pretty sure we've never had a ticket of two people who were both fluent in Spanish as the GOP ticket would be. Tough for Jeb, because he would certainly have a lot of anti-Bush stuff to get past - he was always the better candidate than W was but it just didn't happen for him.

[AZGrizFan]

Makes you wonder what a ticket of Jeb Bush/Susana Martinez would look like. That would be an interesting race btween them and Hillary. Pretty sure we've never had a ticket of two people who were both fluent in Spanish as the GOP ticket would be. Tough for Jeb, because he would certainly have a lot of anti-Bush stuff to get past - he was always the better candidate than W was but it just didn't happen for him.

Substitute Marco Rubio for Jeb.

[GannonFan]

Makes you wonder what a ticket of Jeb Bush/Susana Martinez would look like. That would be an interesting race btween them and Hillary. Pretty sure we've never had a ticket of two people who were both fluent in Spanish as the GOP ticket would be. Tough for Jeb, because he would certainly have a lot of anti-Bush stuff to get past - he was always the better candidate than W was but it just didn't happen for him.

Substitute Marco Rubio for Jeb.

The thing is, Jeb is likeable, Marco isn't. I think Rubio's a sharp guy, but he's stiff and comes across as fake. But he certainly would give the Dems pause in an election - how would they go up against a completely Hispanic ticket, and how would they do it with Hillary? And if not Hillary who else would there even be? And this comes from a guy who actually likes Hillary as a politician.

[AZGrizFan]

Substitute Marco Rubio for Jeb.

The thing is, Jeb is likeable, Marco isn't. I think Rubio's a sharp guy, but he's stiff and comes across as fake. But he certainly would give the Dems pause in an election - how would they go up against a completely Hispanic ticket, and how would they do it with Hillary? And if not Hillary who else would there even be? And this comes from a guy who actually likes Hillary as a politician.

If you think Marco is fake, I'd LOVE to hear your thoughts on John Boehner. Having heard both of them speak in person, I can tell you Marco does NOT come across as fake....he comes across as extremely intelligent, thoughtful and outspoken--with some terrific ideas on how to fix the broken parts of our government. Boehner comes across as a big government shill, stiff, and full of nothing but talking point soundbites.

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Substitute Marco Rubio for Jeb.

The thing is, Jeb is likeable, Marco isn't. I think Rubio's a sharp guy, but he's stiff and comes across as fake. But he certainly would give the Dems pause in an election - how would they go up against a completely Hispanic ticket, and how would they do it with Hillary? And if not Hillary who else would there even be? And this comes from a guy who actually likes Hillary as a politician.

A lot of Dem's heads would explode - "how can I possibly make the choice between voting for a woman or a minority ticket?"

[GannonFan]

The thing is, Jeb is likeable, Marco isn't. I think Rubio's a sharp guy, but he's stiff and comes across as fake. But he certainly would give the Dems pause in an election - how would they go up against a completely Hispanic ticket, and how would they do it with Hillary? And if not Hillary who else would there even be? And this comes from a guy who actually likes Hillary as a politician.

If you think Marco is fake, I'd LOVE to hear your thoughts on John Boehner. Having heard both of them speak in person, I can tell you Marco does NOT come across as fake....he comes across as extremely intelligent, thoughtful and outspoken--with some terrific ideas on how to fix the broken parts of our government. Boehner comes across as a big government shill, stiff, and full of nothing but talking point soundbites.

Yeah, not really a Boehner fan at all - he's like the GOP's answer to Harry Reid (who thankfully, btw, is out of the Majority leader role. But, because he must have naked pictures of every Democrat in the Senate, is somehow going to still be the Minority Leader in the new Senate).

I truthfully could hear more from Rubio, have only seen him in spots. The GOP primary is pretty good about exposing these candidates to death, so I'm sure I'll get a chance.

But frankly, de-railing the Hillary express is only going to happen with a significant move by the GOP, and going with an all-minority ticket (all Hispanic with a woman as well) might be the only way to do it. Just as there was a groundswell to elect Obama in '08 due to his race (and clearly it was a large factor) there will be a similar groundswell to elect a woman. Hillary is clearly electable and barring a slip-up in the primaries looks to be in a good position, so the GOP would need to change the game with their ticket. Rand Paul may or may not be a good candidate, but he'd lose straight up against Hillary. The electorate will not defeat the best woman candidate they've ever had (and the only one to head a ticket) by going with a white male who some still believe is from the kooky end of the far right (accurate or not).

[AZGrizFan]

The thing is, Jeb is likeable, Marco isn't. I think Rubio's a sharp guy, but he's stiff and comes across as fake. But he certainly would give the Dems pause in an election - how would they go up against a completely Hispanic ticket, and how would they do it with Hillary? And if not Hillary who else would there even be? And this comes from a guy who actually likes Hillary as a politician.

A lot of Dem's heads would explode - "how can I possibly make the choice between voting for a woman or a minority ticket?"

Conversely, my fear is that a lot of Conk heads would explode from that choice, causing them to stay home altogether.

[93henfan]

I swing both ways IN POLITICS ONLY, so I like to think that my vote can be moved by appealing candidates.

I despise Hillary Clinton, but I will NEVER vote for another Bush. Dubya ruined that name for life. The Republicans would be absolute fools to ever put another Bush on the President ballot.

Christie is the guy. He's the best hope against Hillary. If you could pair him with a Hispanic lesbian VP candidate then the Republicans would be cooking with gas.

[Wedgebuster]

I swing both ways IN POLITICS ONLY, so I like to think that my vote can be moved by appealing candidates.

I despise Hillary Clinton, but I will NEVER vote for another Bush. Dubya ruined that name for life. The Republicans would be absolute fools to ever put another Bush on the President ballot.

Christie is the guy. He's the best hope against Hillary. If you could pair him with a Hispanic lesbian VP candidate then the Republicans would be cooking with gas.

Unfortunately we did not get Jeb, we got his infinitely dumber brother Dubya. Even Barbara told us that way back when...

I think Jeb would have a better shot against Hillary than Christie, his Jerseyness does not sell well country wide.

Biggest hurdle for Jeb is immigration, but if the party would trust him on that issue, they could have a good and long term fix for their latino problem.

[bluehenbillk]

Rubio, if he's smart, will skip 2016. He took a major black eye on immigration & has never recovered - his own base doesn't even like him right now.

Bush - his biggest plus is the name recognition but I don't think a 3rd Bush is electable - especially considering W's lack of popularity when he left the country in bad shape.

Christie has the most to offer in my opinion & is the ONLY one looking to run that truly has what America may want - a track record of working with the opposite party to break through gridlock. Christie isn't perfect by any means & yes he makes headlines for his honest yet outspoken/sometimes bullying remarks - but what he does do is gets deals done with the other side to help the people in his state. I can't wait for the debates if Sandy comes up. Christie took negative criticism for appearances with Obama while all the people he;ll be running against were stalling in DC to send any $$ to the victims of the biggest natural disaster this part of the country has seen in generations.

[Ibanez]

Makes you wonder what a ticket of Jeb Bush/Susana Martinez would look like. That would be an interesting race btween them and Hillary. Pretty sure we've never had a ticket of two people who were both fluent in Spanish as the GOP ticket would be. Tough for Jeb, because he would certainly have a lot of anti-Bush stuff to get past - he was always the better candidate than W was but it just didn't happen for him.

Substitute Marco Rubio for Jeb.

Why? So the GOP could lose?

[Ivytalk]

I swing both ways IN POLITICS ONLY, so I like to think that my vote can be moved by appealing candidates.

I despise Hillary Clinton, but I will NEVER vote for another Bush. Dubya ruined that name for life. The Republicans would be absolute fools to ever put another Bush on the President ballot.

Christie is the guy. He's the best hope against Hillary. If you could pair him with a Hispanic lesbian VP candidate then the Republicans would be cooking with gas.

Unfortunately we did not get Jeb, we got his infinitely dumber brother Dubya. Even Barbara told us that way back when...

I think Jeb would have a better shot against Hillary than Christie, his Jerseyness does not sell well country wide.

Biggest hurdle for Jeb is immigration, but if the party would trust him on that issue, they could have a good and long term fix for their latino problem.

Very wise post, Wedgie!

[CAA Flagship]

I swing both ways

Nobody asked. Why did you tell, sailor?

[AZGrizFan]

Rubio, if he's smart, will skip 2016. He took a major black eye on immigration & has never recovered - his own base doesn't even like him right now.

Bush - his biggest plus is the name recognition but I don't think a 3rd Bush is electable - especially considering W's lack of popularity when he left the country in bad shape.

Christie has the most to offer in my opinion & is the ONLY one looking to run that truly has what America may want - a track record of working with the opposite party to break through gridlock. Christie isn't perfect by any means & yes he makes headlines for his honest yet outspoken/sometimes bullying remarks - but what he does do is gets deals done with the other side to help the people in his state. I can't wait for the debates if Sandy comes up. Christie took negative criticism for appearances with Obama while all the people he;ll be running against were stalling in DC to send any $$ to the victims of the biggest natural disaster this part of the country has seen in generations.

Interesting. I like him MORE now because of his immigration position.

[bluehenbillk]

Rubio, if he's smart, will skip 2016. He took a major black eye on immigration & has never recovered - his own base doesn't even like him right now.

Bush - his biggest plus is the name recognition but I don't think a 3rd Bush is electable - especially considering W's lack of popularity when he left the country in bad shape.

Christie has the most to offer in my opinion & is the ONLY one looking to run that truly has what America may want - a track record of working with the opposite party to break through gridlock. Christie isn't perfect by any means & yes he makes headlines for his honest yet outspoken/sometimes bullying remarks - but what he does do is gets deals done with the other side to help the people in his state. I can't wait for the debates if Sandy comes up. Christie took negative criticism for appearances with Obama while all the people he;ll be running against were stalling in DC to send any $$ to the victims of the biggest natural disaster this part of the country has seen in generations.

Interesting. I like him MORE now because of his immigration position.

Yea, but you're not Hispanic are you??

[Ibanez]

I swing both ways IN POLITICS ONLY, so I like to think that my vote can be moved by appealing candidates.

I despise Hillary Clinton, but I will NEVER vote for another Bush. Dubya ruined that name for life. The Republicans would be absolute fools to ever put another Bush on the President ballot.

Christie is the guy. He's the best hope against Hillary. If you could pair him with a Hispanic lesbian VP candidate then the Republicans would be cooking with gas.

Unfortunately we did not get Jeb, we got his infinitely dumber brother Dubya. Even Barbara told us that way back when...

I think Jeb would have a better shot against Hillary than Christie, his Jerseyness does not sell well country wide.

Biggest hurdle for Jeb is immigration, but if the party would trust him on that issue, they could have a good and long term fix for their latino problem.

Jeb's wife is Mexican, his son is Mexican-American and that goes a long way.

[AZGrizFan]

Interesting. I like him MORE now because of his immigration position.

Yea, but you're not Hispanic are you??

My wife is.

[Ibanez]

Yea, but you're not Hispanic are you??

My wife is.

That's muy caliente!

[CAA Flagship]

Hey you Christie haters. Sit down and shut up.

[bluehenbillk]

Hey you Christie haters. Sit down and shut up.

haha THIS!!

[93henfan]

Hey Flaggy, get your people under control!

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