Big Sky Basketball Thread - 2014-15

[Mvemjsunpx]

Men

Drew Brandon (EWU) - 21 ppg, 9 rpg, 4 spg, 2.5 apg (2 games)


Women

Mia Loyd (UND) - 19.5 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 6 apg, 70% on FGs (2 games)

[SDHornet]

64-61 EWU win at home over Sac State. Crazy game, every time Hornets would get close EWU would just drop in a few 3 pointers with ease. Absolutely deadly from behind the arc. EWU had a huge lead (16 I think) with about 7 to play and the Hornets scrap back in it and get to within 2 late. Congrats EWU.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

64-61 EWU win at home over Sac State. Crazy game, every time Hornets would get close EWU would just drop in a few 3 pointers with ease. Absolutely deadly from behind the arc. EWU had a huge lead (16 I think) with about 7 to play and the Hornets scrap back in it and get to within 2 late. Congrats EWU.

Good game, Sac. Could've been better if we had Harvey. He'll be 100% for the tourny though.

[Green Laser]

Congrats EWU, good game. Hornets just got started too late and ran out of time. i would rather lose by 4 in Cheney than 13 like the Eagles did in Sac. Still a lot of games to be played, if the teams end up tied in the loss column the Hornets should have the tie breaker.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Congrats EWU, good game. Hornets just got started too late and ran out of time. i would rather lose by 4 in Cheney than 13 like the Eagles did in Sac. Still a lot of games to be played, if the teams end up tied in the loss column the Hornets should have the tie breaker.

Why? Montana's likely to be the third place team—Sac finished 1-0 against them while EWU is currently 1-0 with a home contest left. The tiebreaker rules don't specify if 2-0 beats 1-0 for common games, but I'm guessing it does.


The bigger shocks tonight were the Sac women losing to EWU at home and the SUU & MSU men winning on the road. Weber's women now have a better record than their men.

[SDHornet]

The bigger shocks tonight were the Sac women losing to EWU at home and the SUU & MSU men winning on the road. Weber's women now have a better record than their men.

I thought Weebs would figure it out and have some solid play down the stretch. Wow.

And the Hornet women just need to stay healthy entering the BSCT. Last season they ran out of bodies.

[Green Laser]

Congrats EWU, good game. Hornets just got started too late and ran out of time. i would rather lose by 4 in Cheney than 13 like the Eagles did in Sac. Still a lot of games to be played, if the teams end up tied in the loss column the Hornets should have the tie breaker.

Why? Montana's likely to be the third place team—Sac finished 1-0 against them while EWU is currently 1-0 with a home contest left. The tiebreaker rules don't specify if 2-0 beats 1-0 for common games, but I'm guessing it does.


The bigger shocks tonight were the Sac women losing to EWU at home and the SUU & MSU men winning on the road. Weber's women now have a better record than their men.

EWU and Sac head to head results should have more of a impact than how many wins either had over the third place team. Like I said, a lot of basketball yet to be played. Who knows how it will work out?

[Mvemjsunpx]

Why? Montana's likely to be the third place team—Sac finished 1-0 against them while EWU is currently 1-0 with a home contest left. The tiebreaker rules don't specify if 2-0 beats 1-0 for common games, but I'm guessing it does.


The bigger shocks tonight were the Sac women losing to EWU at home and the SUU & MSU men winning on the road. Weber's women now have a better record than their men.

EWU and Sac head to head results should have more of a impact than how many wins either had over the third place team. Like I said, a lot of basketball yet to be played. Who knows how it will work out?

Um… you do know there are actual, specific procedures to determine this, right? It's not something that comes down to a vote.

http://www.bigskybball.com/2013/02/big- ... eaker.html

[Green Laser]

EWU and Sac head to head results should have more of a impact than how many wins either had over the third place team. Like I said, a lot of basketball yet to be played. Who knows how it will work out?

Um… you do know there are actual, specific procedures to determine this, right? It's not something that comes down to a vote.

http://www.bigskybball.com/2013/02/big- ... eaker.html

And they are?

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Um… you do know there are actual, specific procedures to determine this, right? It's not something that comes down to a vote.

http://www.bigskybball.com/2013/02/big- ... eaker.html

And they are?

Can you not read, or did you just choose not to click the link?

[Mvemjsunpx]

• Men
  
  SAC 61-64 EWU; The Eagles nearly blow a 16-point lead, but they still move to 3-0 without Harvey
  PSU 76-87 ID; Connor Hill goes 8/9 from the arc
  NAU 66-80 ISU; Chris Hansen becomes ISU's all-time 3-point leader as his team badly outshoots the 'Jacks
  SUU 65-56 WEB; SUU ends their 20-game BSC road losing streak thanks to Weber shooting an awful 28%
  MSU 90-87 UNC; Bobcats get their first road win in almost exactly one year
  UMT 65-61 UND; Griz somehow win points-off-turnovers 25-4 despite only winning turnovers 14-12
  
  
  
  Women
  
  ID 69-49 PSU; Viks suffer back-to-back 20-loss seasons for the first time in 10 years
  EWU 80-79 SAC; Hayley Hodgins gets 27 points and 10 rebounds to offset 9 turnovers
  WEB 50-48 SUU; The T-Birds lose their 5th. in a row, shooting under 35% in all 5 losses
  ISU 47-64 NAU; Bengals commit 23 turnovers and only manage 6 assists
  UND 51-66 UMT; Montana only commits 4 turnovers & easily seizes control of the conference race
  UNC 84-63 MSU; D'Shara Strange goes 14/17 from the field, scores 31 points, and grabs 17 rebounds

[SDHornet]

I think GL is asking about if Sac, EWU, and UM all tie for first place (same overall BSC record). Say EWU and UM split, so you have head to head records of:
Sac: 2-1
EWU: 2-2
UM: 1-2
The rules are twerked because it’s no longer a full round robin. Obviously UM would be bumped to 3rd place, but who gets first? That link (and the BSC tie breaking rules) doesn’t indicate any updates with the new scheduling, did you even read the date of that post SE? So again, what are the tie break rules? Were they ever updated?

Like GL said, lots of hoops still to be played.

[Mvemjsunpx]

I think GL is asking about if Sac, EWU, and UM all tie for first place (same overall BSC record). Say EWU and UM split, so you have head to head records of:
Sac: 2-1
EWU: 2-2
UM: 1-2
The rules are twerked because it’s no longer a full round robin. Obviously UM would be bumped to 3rd place, but who gets first? That link (and the BSC tie breaking rules) doesn’t indicate any updates with the new scheduling, did you even read the date of that post SE? So again, what are the tie break rules? Were they ever updated?

Like GL said, lots of hoops still to be played.

If Sac is 2-1, EWU 2-2, and UM 1-2, then it goes in that order. The fact that it's not a double round-robin for everyone doesn't change how head-to-head works.

My one question is on common games: is 2-0 considered to be better than 1-0 against the same common opponent (since it's the same percentage)?

[Mvemjsunpx]

Both first-place teams go down at home (by 2 points & 1 point).

[kalm]

Both first-place teams go down at home (by 2 points & 1 point).

Jois and Harvey have played healthy together a total of 4 games this season. Harvey took a ton of bad shots today. I think we're fine as long as Jois gets healthy.

[Screamin_Eagle174]

Thanks Idaho. I guess your school is good for something now.

[Mvemjsunpx]

What looked looked like a lousy night for the Griz after they blew a double-digit lead in Greeley turns into a great night as they win in triple OT while the top two teams both go down.

[Mvemjsunpx]

• Men
  
  PSU 68-66 EWU; Tyler Harvey returns just in to time for Venky Jois to go out again
  SAC 58-69 ID; Vandals shoot 68% inside the arc and dominate the glass by 16
  SUU 71-67 ISU; Suutah is 4-0 against the Great Basin pair, 0-8 against everyone else
  NAU 61-54 WEB; Weber loses 4 straight Big Sky home games for the first time ever
  UMT 83-81 UNC (3OT); The Griz play their 4th. multiple-overtime game in the last 2 seasons (1st. win)
  MSU 80-78 UND; The Bobcats get their first road sweep in 10 years
  
  
  
  Women
  
  EWU 77-63 PSU; The Vikings close the game on a 22-6 run to make themselves look slightly less awful
  ID 84-92 SAC; Fantasia Hilliard flirts with a triple-double with 22 points, 9 rebounds, and 9 assists
  ISU 75-76 SUU; Suutah shoots 53% after shooting sub-40% for 7 straight games
  WEB 52-56 NAU; Lumberjacks only commit 3 turnovers in the second half after committing 14 in the first
  UNC 52-51 UMT; UM's 23-game home Big Sky winning streak ends despite leading for 19:38 of the 2nd. half
  UND 62-80 MSU; It's not often you see NoDak lose the boards, much less lose them by 10

[Mvemjsunpx]

• • Men
    
    1. Eastern Washington__10-2_____19-6_____ L1
    2. Sacramento State ____10-3_____16-8_____ L2
    3. Montana _____________10-3_____14-10____ W3
    4. Northern Arizona _____8-4_____13-12____ W1
    5. Northern Colorado____7-6_____12-12____ L2
    6. Idaho _________________6-6_____11-12____ W2
    7. Portland State_________6-7_____12-11____ W1
    8. Weber State___________5-8_____10-14____ L2
    9. Southern Utah ________4-8______7-16____ W2
    10.North Dakota _________4-9______8-16____ L3
    11.Idaho State ___________3-10_____6-19____ L1
    12.Montana State ________3-10_____6-19____ W2

• • Women
    
    1. Montana _____________10-3_____17-7_____ L1
    2. Sacramento State _____9-4_____11-13____ W1
    3. Eastern Washington___8-4_____15-8_____ W4
    4. North Dakota _________8-5_____16-9_____ L2
    5. Northern Arizona _____7-5_____11-12____ W2
    6. Northern Colorado____7-6_____13-11____ W3
    7. Weber State___________6-7_____11-13____ L1
    8. Idaho State ___________6-7_____11-13____ L3
    9. Southern Utah ________5-7_____12-10____ W1
    10.Montana State ________5-8_____11-13____ W1
    11.Idaho _________________4-8_____10-13____ L1
    12.Portland State_________1-12_____3-21____ L9

[SDHornet]

Thanks Idaho. I guess your school is good for something now.

Still trolling.

[SDHornet]

Hornets went cold in the final 4 minutes of the Idaho game after tying it up. I was hoping for a split on what is IMO the toughest road trip in BSC play (in terms of competition). We need to defend home court this week and then find a way to get over our road woes for the final 3 games.

[Mvemjsunpx]

Hornets went cold in the final 4 minutes of the Idaho game after tying it up. I was hoping for a split on what is IMO the toughest road trip in BSC play (in terms of competition). We need to defend home court this week and then find a way to get over our road woes for the final 3 games.

That's why I'm not holding out much hope for the Griz hosting the tournament, since they still have to do that trip. Maybe EWU will still be shorthanded…

[SDHornet]

What looked looked like a lousy night for the Griz after they blew a double-digit lead in Greeley turns into a great night as they win in triple OT while the top two teams both go down.

Saw on bigskybball.com that a foul benefited the Griz and got it to OT (or another OT). Have a clip of the vid?

[Mvemjsunpx]

Men

Jordan Gregory (UMT) - 20 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 4.5 apg, 14/14 on FTs (2 games)
Eric Norman (MSU) - 14.5 ppg, 10 rpg, 3.5 bpg, 2 apg, 73% on FGs (2 games)


Women

D'Shara Strange (UNC) - 24 ppg, 14.5 rpg, 2 apg, 2 spg, 75% on FGs (2 games)

[Mvemjsunpx]

What looked looked like a lousy night for the Griz after they blew a double-digit lead in Greeley turns into a great night as they win in triple OT while the top two teams both go down.

Saw on bigskybball.com that a foul benefited the Griz and got it to OT (or another OT). Have a clip of the vid?

The controversial foul was at the end of the third OT, setting up Gregory's winning FTs. Most message-board people (both UM & other fans) are misinterpreting the call: the refs didn't call Huskisson for the (light) frontal contact, they whistled Lee for fouling Gregory from behind.

The VOD on Big Sky TV shows both the original side angle and the baseline angle on the replay. From the baseline angle, you can see that Lee was being rather grabby and you can actually see him grab JG's elbow on the shot attempt. The original footage also shows that he probably got away with a reach-in just before the actual whistle, too. This whole sequence starts at about the 2:47 mark on the BSTV stream bar.

All of this would have been moot, of course, if NoCo had been able to get a defensive board at the end of the 2nd. OT.